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| SotD |
Posted on 09-11-2025 09:17
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I realize that, but as far as I Can see he was like 7th on the list, with Only the two main favorites did reasonably well (they probably should have done better). The rest of the list was just scattered out randomly I Think.
So the Logic is OK, but I don’t see the evidens, except for actually hitting the winner. The remaining top 10 (bar the pre stage favorites) was more or less wrong.
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| Radio00 |
Posted on 09-11-2025 09:26
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So proud for my Team so far.
First win for the Team is great to see.
Hopefully Budyak and Tejada will stay focused and get the most out of it. |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 09-11-2025 09:35
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SotD wrote:
I realize that, but as far as I Can see he was like 7th on the list, with Only the two main favorites did reasonably well (they probably should have done better). The rest of the list was just scattered out randomly I Think.
So the Logic is OK, but I don’t see the evidens, except for actually hitting the winner. The remaining top 10 (bar the pre stage favorites) was more or less wrong.
I might be wrong Sotd but I think I mention 4 of the top 7 fit the stats I was looking for and a 5th in Lafay I thought would go well just on stat combo alone. There will definitely be more variables this year with the 3 stats for climbing but this one felt like everyone went MO TT when the MO stat isn't used untill l the last couple of KM if you don't have the MM or HI stat you are going to lose some time on this one |
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 09-11-2025 10:26
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Also can confirm that this result is in line with what Jt and I have been diving into over the last few days. Happy to see De Vos (who was one we discussed in private and not publicly) do well.
I did a test run of the MTT without the real start list where Meintjes was 5 minutes down on the first chrono and then ended up winning the stage anyways, it's a cool design and the stats that the game highlights are kinda odd but cool.
Thanks for the report, looking forward to watching the race conclude it's looking interesting now!
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| SotD |
Posted on 09-11-2025 10:48
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It wasn’t meant as a critique of the post on Discord just for the record. More of a “I struggle to see the correlations”. They might be there for sure! This isn’t a race I’m involved in nor know the riders detailed enough to really second guess. The results just seem Strange to me - which adds to the general interpretation of GC riders acting strange, cobbled races being rather random - and not particularly in favor of the favorites and the hilly stages being more or less uneventful to a degree where they are just wasted racedays (in GC races atleast).
I find the game strange, and not particular well suited for the Man-Game from what I have seen so far. It doesn’t play well up against our RD, Wage and OVL system atleast. Might be another matter after more races, but so far it seems riders in the region of 100-150K wages are equally good or better than riders in the 300-600K range, which isn’t ideal.
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| SotD |
Posted on 09-11-2025 10:48
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| Imladrik |
Posted on 09-11-2025 11:39
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Nice result from Lafay; OK result from the reste of the team. Would have been nice if Berthet didn't lose so much time on the stage before that...
Thanks for the report!
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| jph27 |
Posted on 09-11-2025 11:44
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Not an amazing race for us from a GC perspective, but a few nice stage results for Page and potentially the U25 classification for Theorpanous make this better than expected for a compulsory C2 race. |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 09-11-2025 11:55
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SotD wrote:
It wasn’t meant as a critique of the post on Discord just for the record. More of a “I struggle to see the correlations”. They might be there for sure! This isn’t a race I’m involved in nor know the riders detailed enough to really second guess. The results just seem Strange to me - which adds to the general interpretation of GC riders acting strange, cobbled races being rather random - and not particularly in favor of the favorites and the hilly stages being more or less uneventful to a degree where they are just wasted racedays (in GC races atleast).
I find the game strange, and not particular well suited for the Man-Game from what I have seen so far. It doesn’t play well up against our RD, Wage and OVL system atleast. Might be another matter after more races, but so far it seems riders in the region of 100-150K wages are equally good or better than riders in the 300-600K range, which isn’t ideal.
Think this is a big thing for sure. This just isn't the same game as 22 and an even bigger change from the ones before. So some of the wages given etc were just wrong
Completely get what you mean in terms of struggling to see the correlations SotD especially if you don't have the game in front of you to see what's happening. My point in this case was more than you could guess, which riders would be suited by this, knowing 24 and how it works.
Definitely some things that we need to work on to get the game working how we expect going forward but that's for the off-season |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 09-11-2025 12:00
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Major showed his face a little bit, otherwise not much going on. Quite a lot of anonymous racing from the team so far, losing tons of ground in promotion terms. Eh, sh*t happens, we'll bag something in another race, this was never one with many expectations.
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 09-11-2025 20:37
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Lovely jobely result from Pavel P! After years of him skirting on the edge of C2 rules he finally is looking like he will get the type of results he got when we were in CT!
Thanks for the report and congrats on the stage win Ivan!
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 09-11-2025 21:49
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Power not doing too badly. He is definitely close enough to get a top 10 in GC. 2 mountain stages left. Should be an interesting finish!
Thanks for the great reports so far! Congrats to all winners!
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 09-11-2025 22:57
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Ouch! Big crack by Dion there looks to have been on a bad day unfortunately but thankfully with his time gained in the TT and the strong team we brought he's limited his loses very well there still in the top 5 and just needs a good RDC next two days and we could have more
Congrats to all the winners could be an exciting final two stages |
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| Heine |
Posted on 10-11-2025 05:46
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We are pretty much nowhere to be seen in the race atm, hope we can do something on the last stages
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 10-11-2025 07:42
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Dion!!!! Wow just the 4 mins put into the GC favourite what an attack they clearly stopped working in behind but that's a great ride to get into yellow all being well tomorrow this should be the GC win as well just need to hold off Orosco
Top report KB |
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| Heine |
Posted on 10-11-2025 08:41
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Thats much better from Schultz! Salvaging some from his race here
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| Imladrik |
Posted on 10-11-2025 09:22
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Hmmm, what could have been if Berthet hadn't lost so much time on the flat! Still, good result from Rochas to take some more stage points (even if it's not very much) and to climb to 6th in GC, mitigating Lafay's expected fall.
If we could stay with 2 in the top 10, and maybe Berthet entering the top 25, that'd be quite nice I think.
All to the last stage then!
Thanks for the reports
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 10-11-2025 13:57
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Catching up
Stage 6 - Happy to see ex Kraftwerk Sasu Helme getting his new team some surprising points. Habtemichael doing well, at least we will not ride for our sprinter!
Stage 7 - Good ride from Habtemichael up to 2nd in GC
Stage 8 - Some huge gaps on this stage, the Bianchi steamroller rolls on 
Thanks for the great reports kb and congrats to the winners.
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| seancoll |
Posted on 10-11-2025 14:13
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Have to hope for a great day from Rachid and Barta on the final day to jump up the standings - not our best use of days so far.
Maybe Revelo, Merchan, and our Main can also get in the breakaway and hope it gets to the finish line!
Congrats again to all for some fascinating racing a great results.
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 10-11-2025 21:35
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Well that wasn't a great day for Power. Hopefully he can maybe try get in a breakaway and salvage something from this tour. Not a lot of points coming out of Tachira or February at the moment.
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