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Posted on 11-11-2024 23:47
Tour of Ukraine



It’s another time trial heavy event in Ukraine as the PTHC calendar continues along here in February. Last year’s event went to Taylor Phinney who won every stage and every jersey available to him. The 2022 version was only slightly less dominant for the American, winning 2 stages and the points jersey. Phinney isn’t the only 20time winner here though as Pluckhin has taken the victory twice as well. Eastman is the only other rider to have won the title in the last 5 years as he took the win in 2020.

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Looking at the stages, of course the favorites here will be time trialists and climbers. The first prologue should benefit the short specialists, but the uphill nature should make it look more attractive to the climbers and the long time trialists. Climbers will be hoping for huge fights on Stage 2, but that’s been uncommon so far this MG season. Stage 3 will allow riders a chance to gain a place or two – a long, relatively flat TT should benefit those strongest in the solo efforts, but they’ll need to set themselves up on the first stages.

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Wirtgen has to stand out as the huge favorite here. Bernal and Dunbar the next two on our radar while Geoghegan Hart should be the rider most hoping for a huge day in the hills.

From the team side, pretty amazing to see the time trial depth from EA Vesuvio but also Cedevita and Elco - ABEA all shown here. We shall see how many from those teams will be able to make it up to the top on stage 2, but in the TTs, they should be very competitive in the team battle.

Leknessund appears to the be top favorite in the Young Rider's category.

Looking forward to three major fights amongst some of the strongest in the world.


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Last nameFirst name2024 Team
BerwickSebastianAker - MOT
DonovanMarkAker - MOT
KampAlexanderAker - MOT
LastraJonathanAker - MOT
BravoEdisonAker - MOT
HarperChrisAker - MOT
SilvaPedroAker - MOT
ValterAttilaAker - MOT
TeunsDylanBralirwa - Cegeka
UwizeyimanaBonaventureBralirwa - Cegeka
Van EetveltLennertBralirwa - Cegeka
VelascoSimoneBralirwa - Cegeka
WillemsJagoBralirwa - Cegeka
HabimanaJean EricBralirwa - Cegeka
KuypersGerbenBralirwa - Cegeka
UhiriweRenusBralirwa - Cegeka
PogacarTadejCedevita
CicconeGiulioCedevita
Geoghegan HartTaoCedevita
LammertinkStevenCedevita
ChristodoulosMichaelCedevita
PenkoIzidorCedevita
SheehanRileyCedevita
StojnicVeljkoCedevita
GirdlestoneKeaganEA Vesuvio
WirtgenTomEA Vesuvio
MuntonByronEA Vesuvio
De BodStefanEA Vesuvio
PelikanJanosEA Vesuvio
OnoderaReiEA Vesuvio
WirtgenLucEA Vesuvio
TanfieldHarryEA Vesuvio
IoannidisNikolaosELCO - ABEA
KiriakidisIoannidisELCO - ABEA
ChristapopoulosPangiotisELCO - ABEA
AffiniEdoardoELCO - ABEA
MavrikakisMichailELCO - ABEA
ChristakosDimitriosELCO - ABEA
AgrotisAlexandrosELCO - ABEA
SpanopoulosIoannisELCO - ABEA
MontenegroSantiagoEveresting
OroscoKempEveresting
RachidElias AbouEveresting
SilvaThomasEveresting
LauWan YauEveresting
PhonarjthanPatompobEveresting
KusiClementEveresting
VaskoLeventeEveresting
CarboniGiovanniGazelle
SenniManuelGazelle
LeknessundAndreasGazelle
AleottiGiovanniGazelle
PavlicMarkoGazelle
NsengimanaJean BoscoGazelle
BalmerAlexandreGazelle
HoferAndreasGazelle
Cort NielsenMagnusGrieg-Maersk
GauduDavidGrieg-Maersk
GebrezgabihierAmanuelGrieg-Maersk
VaboTore AndreGrieg-Maersk
AbrahamsenJonasGrieg-Maersk
WürtzMadsGrieg-Maersk
HulgaardMortenGrieg-Maersk
BazhkouStanislauGrieg-Maersk
CantyBrendanIndosat Ooredoo
DunbarEddieIndosat Ooredoo
YudhaMuhammadIndosat Ooredoo
AbdurrahmanMuhammadIndosat Ooredoo
SakalouAndreiIndosat Ooredoo
Arif PrayogoDealton NurIndosat Ooredoo
PszczolarskiWojciechIndosat Ooredoo
RubenisPaulsIndosat Ooredoo
FraileOmarJEWA TIROL
PaillotYoannJEWA TIROL
GrossschartnerFelixJEWA TIROL
LauranceAxelJEWA TIROL
BayerTobiasJEWA TIROL
TeradaYoshikiJEWA TIROL
KabasMaximilianJEWA TIROL
DarbellayValentinJura GIANTS
ErrazkinXubanJura GIANTS
SchmidMauroJura GIANTS
BisseggerStefanJura GIANTS
BrunelAlexysJura GIANTS
KungStefanJura GIANTS
DelcoLorenzoJura GIANTS
SetiawaAndreas Odie PurnamaJura GIANTS
GidichYevgeniyKing Power
McNultyBrandonKing Power
ManoYuttanaKing Power
HerregodtsRuneKing Power
FungKa HooKing Power
MentenMilanKing Power
Van BaarleDylanKing Power
CoviAlessandroLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
FedeliAlessandroLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
Van GilsMaximLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
OomenSamLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
SajnokSzymonLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
SiddikovDilmurdjonLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
PotockiViktorLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
SuterJoelLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
KeldermanWilcoLlapi-Vita
BorgesBrunoLlapi-Vita
ChiarelloWilliamLlapi-Vita
GoosMarcLlapi-Vita
GroseljZigaLlapi-Vita
YzeirajMarildoLlapi-Vita
BechkovAleksLlapi-Vita
DemiriMikelLlapi-Vita
VakocPetrLotto-Caloi
DriznersJarradLotto-Caloi
Bergstrom FriskHannesLotto-Caloi
ZanaFilippoLotto-Caloi
VanbilsenKennethLotto-Caloi
Price-PejtersenJohanLotto-Caloi
BerckmoesJennoLotto-Caloi
FagundezEric AntonioLotto-Caloi
SommerJanMinions
BjergMikkelMinions
VosekalnsAndrisMinions
Dall'OsteDanieleMinions
CattaneoMattiaMinions
BrownNathanMinions
CasillasJhonatanMinions
QuintanaDayerMinions
BrozynaPiotrMOL Cycling Team
DinaMartonMOL Cycling Team
KenyeresAbelMOL Cycling Team
RhimBrendanMOL Cycling Team
StancuGeorge AlexandruMOL Cycling Team
StashMamyrMOL Cycling Team
HaigJackMOL Cycling Team
KennaughTimMOL Cycling Team
StocekMatusMoser - Sygic
KolarMichaelMoser - Sygic
ToupalikAdamMoser - Sygic
CernyJosefMoser - Sygic
NeumanDominikMoser - Sygic
HosekJosefMoser - Sygic
VacekKarelMoser - Sygic
TurekDanielMoser - Sygic
VanderpoolKristianPodium Ambition
CampbellAkilPodium Ambition
PerezCristianPodium Ambition
CroesJonathanPodium Ambition
NorbertAndrewPodium Ambition
AlexanderNathanPodium Ambition
Le CourtKimPodium Ambition
ForbesNathanielPodium Ambition
BernalEganPolar
EyobMektelPolar
MullenRyanPolar
JaramilloDaniel AlexanderPolar
ZambaniniEdoardoPolar
SweenyHarryPolar
BrockhoffJanPolar
ChristensenRyanPolar
AreruyaJosephXero Racing
GannaFilippoXero Racing
KhodayariFarzadXero Racing
PidcockThomasXero Racing
PomoshnikovSergeiXero Racing
MartinGuillaumeXero Racing
StrongCorbinXero Racing
Van ZylJohannXero Racing
ConciNicolaZARA - Irizar
StorerMichaelZARA - Irizar
CosnefroyBenoitZARA - Irizar
FinklerLeonardo HenriqueZARA - Irizar
SolerMarcZARA - Irizar
CastrilloJaimeZARA - Irizar
VandeveldeYentlZARA - Irizar
GilmoreBradyZARA - Irizar
 
baseballlover312
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Posted on 12-11-2024 00:21
Let's go PCT teams! We'll need all the help we can get.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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SotD
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Posted on 12-11-2024 06:03
Will be interesting to see if my versatile TT’ers Can do well here or if the better pure TT’ers or puncheurs/GC riders will have the edge.
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redordead
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Posted on 12-11-2024 07:05
Hopefully TGH and Pogacar can work well on stage 2. If we can't get depth scoring in this race then I struggle to see where we could this season.

Thanks for the preview Smile

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ember
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Posted on 12-11-2024 07:24
Thank you for the preview, seancoll!

We have no GC ambitions here with the prologue and the TT. This is more a result of putting Valter into every race where there are some kind of hills. That stage 2 should on paper suit him very, very well! I really hope we can run away from this race with the stage win there, eventhough I fear it could become a battlefield between the stage racers and Valter not getting any priority by the AI.

Fingers crossed for big gaps as well, but seeing the season so far, I will happily take a Valter sprint win on stage 2 Pfft Kind of afraid that the downhill finish makes for passive racing, but we shall see. I’m hoping I’m wrong!

For the overall win, Wirtgen is the standout rider. The only scenario he can struggle in, is in the hilly stage proves to be way more difficult and the stage racers like Bernal and Pogacar putting the hammer down.
 
Ollfardh
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Posted on 12-11-2024 07:44
Oomen didn't make the preview, but he failed here big last year, so it's understandable. Let's see what we can do this year.
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DubbelDekker
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Posted on 12-11-2024 08:57
If stage 2 is selective we could end up scoring well through depth and possibly a Leknessund top 10.

If not we get swamped by TT specialists.
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roturn
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Posted on 12-11-2024 09:03
If only knowing before band selection, that Phinney had been a realistic target...missing lots of potential wins and almost guaranteed podiums with a bad PTHC band selection post transfers, but on the other hand can avoid Wirtgen in especially but also Dunbar or Würtz a bit more often. Wink

Can`t see past Wirtgen here with a potential 2 or even 3 stage win performance.
 
Gustavovskiy
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Posted on 12-11-2024 09:28
This should be a good race for us. We're scoring too many points we need to ease a little bit on that front and this seems like the perfect opportunity for that.
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Fabianski
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Posted on 12-11-2024 10:22
Not sure what to expect here. But at least it shouldn't be much worse than last year, where we got a measly 12 points from here.
I sure hope for the "hilly" stage to be pretty selective this time. Whether it is or not, Schmid should be there to get us a good stage result. And then we rely - once again - on Darbellay for the GC. He should keep up with the good climbers there, and hopefully put a minute or two into the pure TTers. The prologue should suit him, and he's solid on flat TTs as well, so stage 2 better be selective.
If it isn't, we'll have to hope for Bissegger, Brunel and Küng to make the split this time. If Schmid is considered to be a favourite on day 2, the team should hopefully be better positioned than last year - but there's a lot of "ifs" for us. Reflected by the expectations, which are the lowest for any PTHC race this year.

Wirtgen should easily get this one, unless Bernal gets a minute on day 2. Otherwise, his TT advantage is just too big to lose out again - in particular given that the good GC riders should be close together and have the same conditions this time, unlike Tasmania.

Thanks for the preview, good luck to all!


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Laurens147
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Posted on 12-11-2024 10:27
Thanks for the preview sean! Smile

Maybe Vakoc can do something in stage 2, otherwise it'll be a zero pointer I'm afraid.
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Eden95
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Posted on 12-11-2024 13:20
First big test for shiny new Dunbar - this is his only race for a while so hopefully he can dust off the cobwebs and try and stick as close to Wittgenstein as he can. We have a great supporting team here, but the competition is pretty fierce so gonna need s2 so be moderately selective for a chance at a top-5 here.
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Eden95
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Posted on 12-11-2024 13:20
First big test for shiny new Dunbar - this is his only race for a while so hopefully he can dust off the cobwebs and try and stick as close to Wittgenstein as he can. We have a great supporting team here, but the competition is pretty fierce so gonna need s2 so be moderately selective for a chance at a top-5 here.

Thank you for the preview!
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Fabianski
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Posted on 12-11-2024 14:47
Fabianski wrote:
I sure hope for the "hilly" stage to be pretty selective this time. Whether it is or not, Schmid should be there to get us a good stage result.
[...]
If Schmid is considered to be a favourite on day 2, [...]

Nevermind, just saw Areruya on the startlist :lol:
Quite some strong puncheurs here actually, also the omni-present Valter and Pidcock, and top climbers like Haig, Pogacar, Bernal... Stage 2 could very well be carnage this year, at least I doubt it'll be as boring as the previous version of this stage. Full startlist doesn't bode well for our GC ambitions, but well, I still hope we'll be slightly better than last year Pfft


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ember
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Posted on 12-11-2024 16:18
Fabianski wrote:

Fabianski wrote:
I sure hope for the "hilly" stage to be pretty selective this time. Whether it is or not, Schmid should be there to get us a good stage result.
[...]
If Schmid is considered to be a favourite on day 2, [...]

Nevermind, just saw Areruya on the startlist :lol:
Quite some strong puncheurs here actually, also the omni-present Valter and Pidcock, and top climbers like Haig, Pogacar, Bernal... Stage 2 could very well be carnage this year, at least I doubt it'll be as boring as the previous version of this stage. Full startlist doesn't bode well for our GC ambitions, but well, I still hope we'll be slightly better than last year Pfft

Scratch everything I said about Valter aiming for the stage win! Areruya here is quite something. Fingers crossed it means we get a super selective stage 2, but just easy enough to make Valter one of the elite riders Pfft
 
Marcovdw
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Posted on 12-11-2024 20:07
Should be a good race for Cattaneo, but his GC will mostly depend on stage two.
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whitejersey
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Posted on 12-11-2024 21:14
Should be a lock for Wirtgen, but anything can happen in Ukraine!
 
SotD
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Posted on 13-11-2024 05:20
Solid start to keep multiple riders in contention. Stage 2 needs to be a little bit difficult for the pure timetriallists, but not hard enough to kill off my guys. It’s a fine balance.
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Posted on 13-11-2024 06:34
It's too early to tell whether we did enough in this opening stage, but it seems an okay start.

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ember
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Posted on 13-11-2024 07:21
Now for the big highlight! Really, really curious to see how stage 2 will play out with the many top stage racers, climbers and hybrids that are present. Though, some of them might also have conflicting interests. For example, what will Areruya do if Ganna is treated as their GC leader?
 
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