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2022 Community Preview
Fabianski
Hi everyone!

As promised earlier, I have again collected all the predictions out there and merged them into a single "Community Preview". Unfortunately, I only did this for two divisions - PCT and CT - given that only Croatia posted a quantitative PT prediction. Gone are the days of the exhaustive and great-to-read previews by SportingNonsense or SotD it seems Sad

On the other hand, I was able to take into account 7 predictions for PCT and CT each, so plenty of data available - let's see if anyone was smarter alone than the "common wisdom" Smile


Before diving into the analysis, let's recall how I did the final "merged" prediction:
- Find the median predicted rank of every team
- Find the average predicted rank of every team
- Find the range of prediction (i.e. difference between mininum and maximum predicted rank)
- Order first by median, then by average, then by range

The sorting by median values minimizes the effect of outliers. The average is taken as a tie-breaker in case of equal median values. And finally, we'll take the range as an "ultimate" tie-breaker, as I consider a more narrow range to be potentially more precise. However, that final criterion didn't need to be applied, as the first tie-breaker was sufficient in all cases.

Hopefully that was understandable, and now let's move on and take a look at the

2022 PCT Community Prediction

Number of predictions taken into account: 7

Spoiler

These predictions have been taken into account for PCT:
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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/amc.png Amaysim Cervélo2111124
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/aab.png Assa Abloy187849136
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bnb.png Binance48410635
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/brs.png Bralirwa - Stevens Bikes1222212
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cdb.png Carlsberg - Danske Bank5333353
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ced.png Cedevita14141514151418
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ccc.png Crabbe-CC Chevigny24232421232213
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gct.png Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team16201917181514
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/hla.png HelloFresh - Lampre17151615161623
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ino.png Indosat Ooredoo19191819191920
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/kmm.png Kraftwerk Man Machine151612914916
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lpu.png Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam897781111
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/min.png Minions - Subwoolfer1012141313188
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pfi.png Philips - Force India121055789
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/afr.png Project: Africa22242324242321
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/rbz.png Red Bull Žalgiris1151316121010
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/spr.png Sauber Petronas Racing21172022202124
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/sva.png Strava20222120212015
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/p4e.png Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska6666467
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/tlt.png Trans Looney Tunes23212223222422
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/vlf.png Volcanica - Fox13181718171712
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/voy.png Voyagin - Bird71391110121
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/xr0.png Xero Racing341085417
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ziz.png Zara - Irizar911111211719


Sources
AbhishekLFC (Abhi): Expert Prediction in Roundtable Analysis
Croatia14 (C14): Expert Prediction in Roundtable Analysis
jandal7 (j7): Expert Prediction in Roundtable Analysis
knockout (ko): Expert Prediction in Roundtable Analysis
Roundtable (RT): Final Ranking in Roundtable Analysis
redordead (red): redordead's 2022 PCT prediction
TinxiaS (TxS): Prediction in 2022 predictions for lazy/busy wizards

RankTeamMedianAverageRange
1pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/amc.png Amaysim Cervélo11.713
2pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/brs.png Bralirwa - Stevens Bikes21.711
3pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cdb.png Carlsberg - Danske Bank33.572
4pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bnb.png Binance55.717
5pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/xr0.png Xero Racing57.2914
6pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/p4e.png Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska65.863
7pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pfi.png Philips - Force India88.007
8pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lpu.png Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam88.714
9pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/aab.png Assa Abloy89.2914
10pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/voy.png Voyagin - Bird109.0012
11pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/rbz.png Red Bull Žalgiris1111.0011
12pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ziz.png Zara - Irizar1111.4312
13pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/min.png Minions - Subwoolfer1312.5710
14pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/kmm.png Kraftwerk Man Machine1413.007
15pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ced.png Cedevita1414.864
16pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/hla.png HelloFresh - Lampre1616.868
17pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/vlf.png Volcanica - Fox1716.006
18pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gct.png Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team1717.006
19pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ino.png Indosat Ooredoo1919.002
20pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/sva.png Strava2019.867
21pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/spr.png Sauber Petronas Racing2120.717
22pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/tlt.png Trans Looney Tunes2222.433
23pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ccc.png Crabbe-CC Chevigny2321.4311
24pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/afr.png Project: Africa2323.003


On top, both pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/amc.png Amaysim Cervélo and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/brs.png Bralirwa - Stevens Bikes actually get the same average, with the latter being predicted only 1st (2x) and 2nd (5x), while the Aussies have one 4th place prediction. With the median rank being 1 (due to four 1st place predictions), Amaysim are the community's title favorite.

After those two top teams, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cdb.png Carlsberg - Danske Bank is the third team predicted to finish on a promotion spot by all predictions - it looks like they like odd numbers, as they are only predicted 3rd (5x) and 5th (2x).

The race for the remaining promotion spots looks pretty wide open, although pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bnb.png Binance and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/xr0.png Xero Racing - both with a median 5th place - and 6 pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/p4e.png Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska look like the favorites. However, the latter rather look to be set for 6th place (5x), but at least the Roundtable common prediction sees them on a promotion spot.

Besides those 6 teams, only pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pfi.png Philips - Force India (2x 5th), pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/aab.png Assa Abloy (1x 4th), pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/voy.png Voyagin - Bird (1x 1st) and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/rbz.png Red Bull Žalgiris (1x 5th) get at least one prediction on a promotion spot.


In terms of relegation fight, things look to be pretty clear. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/afr.png Project: Africa and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/tlt.png Trans Looney Tunes get 100% relegating predictions, while all of pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ccc.png Crabbe-CC Chevigny, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/spr.png Sauber Petronas Racing and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/sva.png Strava stay up in one single prediction.

Which means that only three other teams get one relegating prediction each: pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ino.png Indosat Ooredoo (1x 20th), pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gct.png Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team (1x 20th) and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/hla.png HelloFresh - Lampre (1x 23rd). Among those, especially the Indonesians might be heavily at risk, given that nobody predicts them higher than 18th, while Gjensidige and HelloFresh both get some Top15 predictions.


In terms of variance, two teams stick out: pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/xr0.png Xero Racing, who are predicted to promote in 4/7 previews, also get a 17th place prediction, while pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/aab.png Assa Abloy's predictions reach from 4th to 18th. Both are predicted in a range of 14 spots, so they look to be difficult to assess. It has to be said though that for both teams it's mainly one prediction being way off the others.

Let's see how well that community prediction works out this year - so far, it has always been among the more precise previews, even though sometimes an individual one proved to be the best. Stay tuned for CT which will likely come tomorrow!
 
baseballlover312
Great write-up Fabianski, thanks for this!

Seems like the predictions are pretty consistent about my team. We'll see how I can live up to them.
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Thanks for the roundup Fabi!
 
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Nice format, and great job!
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Marcovdw
Thanks! The fact that we're not mentioned in writing probably means we'll have another boring mid-table year Pfft
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Fabianski
@All
Thanks for the positive feedback Smile

@bbl
The pressure is definitely on now Pfft

@Marco
The predictions for Minions go from 8th to 18th, as you can see in the spoiler - let's hope for you the truth is indeed in the boring middle Wink


As promised yesterday, let's now dive into the

2022 CT Community Prediction

Number of predictions taken into account: 7

Spoiler

These predictions have been taken into account for CT:
MacUU/1UU/2c59/1c59/2C14CDS
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/anz.png Air New Zealand p/b Pirelli81413111248
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bia.png Bianchi - Panerai114815141614
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bns.png BNZ-Superhero Racing6893483
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bee.png Bonduelle - Eesti Energia15151416131116
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bdx.png Bordeaux Métropole - Euskotren17161714161713
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bwt.png BWT Hyundai N Cycling9729374
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cct.png Caja Rural Cycling Team5656959
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/caa.png Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint1410108796
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gla.png Glanbia129612101211
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/jur.png Jura GIANTS1131111
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lec.png Le Creuset10111613171015
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mck.png McCormick Pro Cycling3342232
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/oph.png Oktal Pharma - TotalTV1313111081310
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pns.png Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller712127111512
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/t3a.png Podium Ambition18181818181818
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/stb.png Staffbase - BHP16171517151417
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/taf.png Tafjord Kraft2214667
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/trg.png Tryg - Gobyk4575525


Sources
MacC (Mac):Prediction in "2022 predictions for lazy/busy wizards"
Ulrich Ulriksen (UU/1, UU/2): 2 Predictions in "2022 predictions for lazy/busy wizards"
cunego59 (c59/1, c59/2): 2 Predictions in "2022 predictions for lazy/busy wizards"
Croatia14 (C14): Croatia's lazy CT prediction in "2022 predictions for lazy/busy wizards"
Continental Division Songfestival (CDS): Prediction by Nemolito, Marcovdw, Eden95, SotD, cunego59

RankTeamMedianAverageRange
1pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/jur.png Jura GIANTS11.292
2pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mck.png McCormick Pro Cycling32.712
3pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/taf.png Tafjord Kraft44.006
4pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/trg.png Tryg - Gobyk54.715
5pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bns.png BNZ-Superhero Racing65.866
6pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cct.png Caja Rural Cycling Team66.434
7pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bwt.png BWT Hyundai N Cycling75.867
8pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/caa.png Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint99.148
9pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/anz.png Air New Zealand p/b Pirelli1110.0010
10pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gla.png Glanbia1110.296
11pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/oph.png Oktal Pharma - TotalTV1111.145
12pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pns.png Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller1210.868
13pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lec.png Le Creuset1313.147
14pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bia.png Bianchi - Panerai1411.7112
15pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bee.png Bonduelle - Eesti Energia1514.295
16pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bdx.png Bordeaux Métropole - Euskotren1615.714
17pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/stb.png Staffbase - BHP1615.863
18pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/t3a.png Podium Ambition1818.000


As you can see in the spoiler, Ulrich Ulriksen and cunego59 submitted two predictions each - both supposing their second one would be the more accurate. I took all of them, so everyone can see which model actually is more accurate Wink

On top of the division, just like in PCT, two teams get only Top5 predictions: pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/jur.png Jura GIANTS, who even end up winning the division in 6/7 predictions, and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mck.png McCormick Pro Cycling, who get a 4th place as their worst prediction. The start of the season clearly puts the latter ahead in terms of title fight; let's see how things move on.

Behind, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/taf.png Tafjord Kraft get 4/7 promoting predictions - with 7th being their lowest value, but three previews even seeing them on the podium. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/trg.png Tryg - Gobyk only get one podium prediction, but they promote in 6/7 cases. So these four teams look like the safest bets for direct promotion spots.

The race for the 5th place is very close according to the community preview, with all of pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bns.png BNZ-Superhero Racing, the newbies from pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cct.png Caja Rural Cycling Team, and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bwt.png BWT Hyundai N Cycling getting 3/7 Top5 predictions. The first and last actually even have two podium predictions, but both get a wider range of potential finish spots than the Spaniards.

Given that the gap especially in terms of average prediction is pretty large to pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/caa.png Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint, we can expect the 7 aforementioned teams to fight for the 5 automatic promotion spots. In fact, only pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/anz.png Air New Zealand p/b Pirelli and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bia.png Bianchi - Panerai get one single Top5 prediction each (both taking one 4th place).

On the other end of the table, we see an impressive "0" in the range column - with every single preview predicting the relegating pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/t3a.png Podium Ambition to finish dead last in their new division. In general, the new teams populate the lower spots in the prediction, with pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pns.png Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller being the second lowest established team on a predicted 13th place.

We've already seen that there's one outright favorite for the "Newcomer of the Year" title - pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cct.png Caja Rural Cycling Team, who with a good chunk of luck could even achieve direct promotion.


That's it for the moment; let's see how often I'll track the actual standings vs. the predictions. I hope to do so at least twice during the season, and once at the end. But for that, motivation needs to stay up throughout the season - clearly not a given.

Thanks for reading and leaving your comments!
 
redordead
Thanks for doing this again.

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SotD
Great job mate! Very interesting read, despite PT not being there. And like you say I won't be writing one this season. I was considering it, but in all honesty I thought it wasn't really my turn and wanted to let someone come before me - but as no one seemed to be interested I dropped the plan of writing it. It does take quite some time, and if the interest isn't there - why bother.

I'm really happy to read the CT and PCT previews - although I must admit that it feels a bit silly to not see a single PT preview made by a PT manager. I did very much enjoy the one bbl made though! Smile
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PT Rankings #2 vs. "Community" Prediction


Yes, I know that there's only one single (quantitative) prediction for PT, but I still wanted to check how that one compares to reality. And yes, we all know that rankings aren't very meaningful pre-GTs, but let's still do it:

TeamCurrent rankPredicted rankDifference
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/iso.png Isostar - Specialized12-1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/kng.png King Power28-6
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/eav.png EA Vesuvio312-9
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/grm.png Grieg-Maersk413-9
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ela.png ELCO - ABEA550
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lph.png Los Pollos Hermanos621-15
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/tti.png Tinkoff - La Datcha Team717-10
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/isa.png ISA - Hexacta816-8
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/yor.png cycleYorkshire911-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pol.png Polar1018-8
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/dsc.png De Stijl Cycling1115-4
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/akm.png Aker - MOT124+8
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gzl.png Gazelle136+7
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/hsk.png Huski Chocolate14140
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/aeg.png Aegon - Peroni1510+5
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mos.png Moser - Sygic167+9
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ubs.png Team UBS1719-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mol.png MOL Cycling Team189+9
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/evo.png Evonik - ELKO193+16
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/duo.png Duolingo20200
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pum.png Team Puma - SAP211+20
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/zpc.png Zwift Pro Cycling22220


One thing is obvious - and easily explicable: the teams focusing more on classics than on stage racing are "green" early on, i.e. they're higher in the rankings than where they're predicted to be at the end of the season. Typical representatives are Grieg, King Power or Tinkoff. Add to those the teams sending strong lineups to early-season stage races like EA Vesuvio, Los Pollos or Polar - and finally notorious overperformers like ISA Hexacta - and you've covered most of the (higher) green numbers.
Obviously, other teams with strong classics specialists had pretty big stinkers, like Aker or Huski. Especially Aker being pretty far down seems a bit odd - or maybe that 4th place prediction is just too high.

On the other hand, we have teams like Puma or Evonik ridiculously far down the rankings - but we all know (or at least strongly suppose) both Herklotz and PHL will do a GT and score 1000+ points on their own. MOL should also be betting on the three-week stage races, as are Moser, Gazelle or Aegon. So that's most of the big red numbers out of the way, too - with just Aker being in a tricky position. However, as they are still 12th and don't really look to be in relegation danger, they probably can live with that - and as said before, maybe that prediction was just a bit optimistic.

On the other hand, the Ardennes are yet to be raced, too - and that's exactly where Aker could make up some spots.

In general, Croatia's prediction currently has an average deviation of 6.7 spots per team - which is not great, but I'm sure it will look far better after the first two GTs, and maybe even better by the end of the year! Thanks for your prediction, mate, I'm still glad to play with, even if it's the only one I have for PT Wink
 
Fabianski
PCT Rankings #2 vs. Community Prediction


With 7 predictions, we can indeed speak of a "community preview" for PCT - let's see how this one compares to reality:

TeamCurrent rankPredicted rankDifference
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/amc.png Amaysim Cervélo110
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bnb.png Binance24-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lpu.png Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam38-5
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/brs.png Bralirwa - Stevens Bikes42+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cdb.png Carlsberg - Danske Bank53+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/hla.png HelloFresh - Lampre616-10
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/tlt.png Trans Looney Tunes722-15
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/rbz.png Red Bull Žalgiris811-3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ziz.png Zara - Irizar912-3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/spr.png Sauber Petronas Racing1021-11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/vlf.png Volcanica - Fox1117-6
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ced.png Cedevita1215-3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/kmm.png Kraftwerk Man Machine1314-1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/xr0.png Xero Racing145+9
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pfi.png Philips - Force India157+8
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/min.png Minions - Subwoolfer1613+3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/voy.png Voyagin - Bird1710+7
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/sva.png Strava1820-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/p4e.png Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska196+13
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gct.png Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team2018+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ino.png Indosat Ooredoo2119+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/aab.png Assa Abloy229+13
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ccc.png Crabbe-CC Chevigny23230
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/afr.png Project: Africa24240


We know that RDs spent can still differ by a factor 2 at this time of the year; still, a few tendencies can be observed already. For example, the leader and the bottom 2 are correctly predicted, and according to PpRD, all three teams aren't likely to move a lot.
But the early big surprises, they exist - in both ways. On a positive note, Trans are currently 7th instead of being down on the relegation spots - they're however also in the Top 3 of the teams having raced most so far, and many of those races were on their favorite terrains (hills & cobbles). Projections also see them closer to the relegation than to the promotion zone - let's see if they can prove everyone wrong!
We have a similar picture for Sauber, who are 11 spots above prediction (which would be relegation as well), but they have an even lower projected score than Trans. On the other hand, they've got some huge depth for uphill races - with the lack of TTers, sprinters and top-notch climber it will however still be a lot of work to avoid a drop.
With HelloFresh, we have a third two-digit overperformer - and unlike the others, their PpRD sees them even higher than they currently are! On the other hand, more than half of their points were scored by the duo Daniel - Kennaugh, who obviously don't have enough RDs to carry the team all season long - and not all races will suit the team as much as those they mostly had so far.

But we also had two big losers so far, with the most surprising one probably being Popo4Ever. Instead of having an outside shot at promotion, they're dangerously close to the relegation zone - the lack of mountain stage races so far respectively the underperformance in the one they have already done (Colombia) are surely a factor, but the big points are lacking on all terrains so far. They'll surely be glad once the cobbles are over, though.
And what about Assa Abloy? Predicted to finish 9th, they're currently deep in the relegation zone, and PpRD doesn't give them much hope, either. One reason surely is that their strongest terrain are TTs, but they haven't had the opportunity to play this card yet. They also like mountains - but there weren't many mountains yet, either. And they don't like cobbles - so chances are there they will eventually leave the danger zone behind, but even that is far from granted - let alone claim 9th place as predicted!
Philips, Xero and Voyagin are quite a lot below predictions as well, and at least the two latter will be happy when the cobbles are over. All three clearly are waiting for more uphill races to improve their current rank - let's see if that will eventually happen!

But how precise is the prediction, acutally? Well, after the first three months of the year, it differs by 5.1 spots on average - last year, we had 4.6 at the end of the year, so that's a pretty good first impression.
Many of the individual predictions are very close or even better - Abhi's Roundtable prediction currently provides the best value, with an average 4.8 spots divergence. Croatia's (5.0) and jandal's (5.1) roundtable contribution are also better than or equal to the community prediction, with the final, common Roundtable prediction being slightly worse (5.3). red's 2022 PCT prediction is slightly better with 5.2 - so we have 6 predictions, including the community one, ranging from 4.8 to 5.3 average spots deviation. Let's say that for now the community isn't smarter than some individuals, but let's see how that might change in the next update!
Edited by Fabianski on 08-12-2022 16:11
 
Fabianski
CT Rankings #2 vs. Community Prediction


Preliminary note: Given that Eddie Stobart joined the division after the prediction round, they are not considered (i.e. teams may gain one spot in the "current rank" column compared to reality if Eddie Stobart should be higher than 19th).

So let's take a look at how the community prediction does with the CT teams:

TeamCurrent rankPredicted rankDifference
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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/jur.png Jura GIANTS21+1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/caa.png Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint38-5
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cct.png Caja Rural Cycling Team46-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bwt.png BWT Hyundai N Cycling57-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gla.png Glanbia610-4
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bia.png Bianchi - Panerai714-7
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bns.png BNZ-Superhero Racing85+3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/trg.png Tryg - Gobyk94+5
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/taf.png Tafjord Kraft103+7
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/oph.png Oktal Pharma - TotalTV11110
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/stb.png Staffbase - BHP1217-5
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bee.png Bonduelle - Eesti Energia1315-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pns.png Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller1412+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/anz.png Air New Zealand p/b Pirelli159+6
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bdx.png Bordeaux Métropole - Euskotren16160
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lec.png Le Creuset1713+4
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/t3a.png Podium Ambition18180


One thing jumps out: there are no two-digit divergences in CT - probably confirming its status of "easiest to predict division". In general, relegating teams are predicted to bounce back up, while new teams usually take the lowest positions. But hey, Bianchi proves them all wrong for now! They've been doing a good job so far, especially in the hills and on the cobbles, and a result are up in 7th place instead of 14th. Projections see them at the lower end of the Top 10, but they could still end up being one of the positive surprises of the year!

The same holds for Colombini, who are 5 spots above prediction - mainly due to a very strong Saber, but also Vliegen has been flying this year. It's still a long way to go, but they definitely are the early favorites for "best new team" - and even have a shot at first-year promotion! Let's see if they can keep up their pace for the remaining 7 months...
Staffbase also are 5 spots above prediction - which although lower in the rankings is still as respectable. They will be heavily relying on their sprinters and puncheur depth - but especially in those regions of the rankings a great result here and there can make a big difference!
And I also want to mention (once again) Glanbia - predicted to finish 10th, they're currently 6th, and most of the (T)TT-heavy races are yet to come! Of course they heavily depend on Tachira winner Talansky so far, but personally I wouldn't be surprised to see them even among the Top 5 by the end of the year.

But we also do have some rather big disappointments so far. The biggest one surely are Tafjord, who were seen as a safe bet for promotion (3rd), but currently are 10th. Their season start in February surely didn't help for early scoring, but even then their star puncheurs didn't perform as required to be high up in the rankings. Breen is having a decent cobbles campaign, but they will need sprinters and climbers to jump in as well if they really want to achieve promotion!
The situation is quite similar for Tryg, who were predicted in 4th and right now are 9th, mainly due to some fluky performances by star rider Schlegel. However, Kanter hasn't raced a lot, and Hoelgaard has been doing well so far - let's see if they can turn their projected points into actual ones and indeed finish 4th like their PpRD suggests.
Air New Zealand are even 6 spots lower than the prediction -which saw them inside the Top 10. Although there's quite a gap in PpRD between 10th and 11th currently, they're indeed the team that could get closest, having the 11th PpRD average and not having raced a lot yet. They'll definitely need their climbers to perform to move up, though - and Scully to conserve his Guadeloupe form and continue to score.

All in all, the community prediction is already pretty accurate with a 3.1 spots deviation per team. However, Ulrich Ulriksen's CT predictions confirm that he's become an expert of the division, with his first approach being 2.8 spots off - and the second one just 2.1! An incredible value so far, congrats!
But let's also mention cunego's second prediction, which differs by just 2.7 spots per team and hence is the second-best CT prediction out there currently! And let's also mention the Continental Division Songfestival, whose outcome is almost as good as the community preview with an average deviation of 3.2 spots per team.

That's it for now - obviously a lot can still change, but for now it definitely looks like CT is easiest to predict. There's also the least amount of teams (18 vs. 22 vs. 24), but especially Ulrich's predictions are really great!
 
whitejersey
Thanks for the update on these! In CT it's safe to say that both Tafjord and Tryg haven't had the start to the season that the experts predicted going to be interesting to see if they bounce back since they have very strong teams on paper. Maybe Schlegel will challenge Altur for worst training spend in MG history? Only time will tell!

For PCT and us personally I still think that predicted us 16th was more than fair, with quite a few race days used up by our primary captains in their target races already a race like Baltic in the coming week will be super important for us when it comes to figuring out if we can upset and finish in the top 10. Assa Abloy and Popo not having the starts that people predicted, it is going to be an interesting couple of months to see if those two teams can bounce back and ensure that they reach their season goals, especially Assa Abloy has a super interesting project in the works granded that they survive, which they have enough quality to ensure they do.
 
baseballlover312
Below expectation once again. But I always felt they were too high, so I guess it's fine. Frown
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A very nice read for all the divisions. Thanks Fab Smile

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Croatia14
Thanks for the write-ups. I guess rankings are a little too early to tell the real picture in any division with it being focused on specific terrains so far, but we'll see. Really looking forward to the next months!
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TheManxMissile
whitejersey wrote:
Maybe Schlegel will challenge Altur for worst training spend in MG history? Only time will tell!


If there is only one good thing to come out of the previous two seasons of T3A PCT struggles, it's establishing this Altur record as fact! (ignore his solid PT result this season please Pfft)
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sammyt93
I feel like lack of Cobblers is a bit harsh on us this season considering Tom David is currently sat top 20 in the PCT Individual rankings and we have 4 domestiques for him that are similarly focussed in hilly cobbles.
 
Fabianski
sammyt93 wrote:
I feel like lack of Cobblers is a bit harsh on us this season considering Tom David is currently sat top 20 in the PCT Individual rankings and we have 4 domestiques for him that are similarly focussed in hilly cobbles.

I guess I shouldn't do this kind of writeups late in the evening when I'm still half ill Pfft
Of course that should read "lack of sprinters", will fix this one. On the contrary, David clearly is one of the main reasons why you're way higher up than predicted so far! But I stand by the rest - no TTer, no top climber (given this year's climber field) Wink Although I have to admit that Pomoshnikov and Frankiny hurt us more than once last year by beating "top climber" Quintana Sad
 
Fabianski
Sorry for not having posted more intermediate results, but I was just too busy with other MG and RL things. Nonetheless, here come the final results!

Final PT Rankings vs. "Community" Prediction


Sadly, there was no real community prediction for the highest division, as only Croatia dared posting a preview including ranking predictions. Let's see how accurate that one turned out to be:

TeamFinalPredictedDifference
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/iso.png Isostar - Specialized12-1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/kng.png King Power28-6
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pum.png Team Puma - SAP31+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/akm.png Aker - MOT440
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/tti.png Tinkoff - La Datcha Team517-12
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mol.png MOL Cycling Team69-3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ela.png ELCO - ABEA75+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/isa.png ISA - Hexacta816-8
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/eav.png EA Vesuvio912-3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gzl.png Gazelle106+4
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/grm.png Grieg-Maersk1113-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pol.png Polar1218-6
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/evo.png Evonik - ELKO133+10
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mos.png Moser - Sygic147+7
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/yor.png cycleYorkshire1511+4
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/dsc.png De Stijl Cycling1615+1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/hsk.png Huski Chocolate1714+3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/duo.png Duolingo1820-2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/aeg.png Aegon - Peroni1910+9
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ubs.png Team UBS2019+1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lph.png Los Pollos Hermanos21210
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/zpc.png Zwift Pro Cycling22220


Croatia apparently was too modest - or just underestimated his team - as he predicted Puma - SAP to win it all. The Germans did well indeed, but finished "only" 3rd - while Isostar easily completed the three-peat. 2/3 podium spots isn't bad - although pretty much anyone would probably have seem these two up there.

King Power though were quite a lot better than expected, taking the runner-up spot inestead of "just" finishing in the lower Top 10. What I find impressive, though, is the spot-on 4th place prediction of Aker - it's rare to see a newly promoted team that high up, and probably even more rare to see this coming!

However, as great as the Aker prediction was, as far off was the one for Tinkoff. Predicted to only just reach safety, they actually did a great job to end up 5th! Another team that finished clearly higher than expected - although with "only" an 8 spots difference - were ISA - Hexacta. Polar taking 12th place instead of relegating are the last team where the final outcome was more than 5 spots higher than predicted.

There were also three teams that finished clearly worse than expected by Croatia. First and foremost, Evonik, who were predicted to end up on the podium - but in the end even missed the Top 10. While the consequences aren't that bad for the Latvians - except for a failed goal - Aegon finishing 9 spots below the prediction had the worst possible consequences: relegation. Moser were the 3rd team more than 5 spots worse than expected, finishing 14th instead of 7th.

Speaking of relegation, our sole predictor had a pretty good feeling there, getting 4/5 right. Duolingo, UBS, Los Pollos and Zwift were all expected to go down - the two last names are actually the only other precise predictions besides Aker. As said before, Aegon was definitely never expected to go down; the prediction saw Polar take the final relegating spot.

Overall, the prediction has a deviation of 3.9 spots on average - which as expected is far better than the value from the intermediate standings (6.7).

Unfortunately, we can't compare this value to any other predictions - I'm hoping to get some more for 2023 again (especially given that of one this year's PCT predictors just got promoted Wink)!
 
Fabianski
Final PCT Rankings vs. Community Prediction


We had 7 predictions for PCT (which you can find in the first post); thereof Abhi's Roundtable contribution was the most accurate early in the season. Let's see how that changed now - here are the final standings compared to the community prediction:

TeamFinalPredictedDifference
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/amc.png Amaysim Cervélo110
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ziz.png Zara - Irizar212-10
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/min.png Minions - Subwoolfer313-10
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ced.png Cedevita415-11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cdb.png Carlsberg - Danske Bank53+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bnb.png Binance64+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/kmm.png Kraftwerk Man Machine714-7
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pfi.png Philips - Force India87+1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/hla.png HelloFresh - Lampre916-7
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lpu.png Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam108+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/brs.png Bralirwa - Stevens Bikes112+9
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/aab.png Assa Abloy129+3
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/xr0.png Xero Racing135+8
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/p4e.png Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska146+8
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/rbz.png Red Bull Žalgiris1511+4
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/spr.png Sauber Petronas Racing1621-5
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/tlt.png Trans Looney Tunes1722-5
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ino.png Indosat Ooredoo1819-1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/voy.png Voyagin - Bird1910+9
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gct.png Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team2018+2
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/sva.png Strava2120+1
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/vlf.png Volcanica - Fox2217+5
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/ccc.png Crabbe-CC Chevigny23230
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/afr.png Project: Africa24240


Just like in PT, there were only three exact predictions - here we have the winner and the bottom 2. Amaysim were expected to win the division in 4/7 previews, with 2/3 of the others seeing them finish 2nd (and the final one at least had them promoting as well). So that was a rather easy one.

However, three of the other 4 promoting teams were completely unexpected - as all of them were seen to even miss out on the Top 10! Zara and Minions at least got two Top 10 predictions each (though no promotion spot), whereas Cedevita's highest predicted finish was 14th! So yes, PCT sometimes yields some really, really big surprises!

Carlsberg, on the other hand, were predicted to promote in every single preview, although they "only" finished 5th instead of 3rd. They'll get over it, I'm sure.

Binance also finish just two spots lower than predicted - but for them the outcome is worse, as instead of promoting they just miss out - unless there's at least one disband standing once the continuation deadline is over. Or if MGUCI decides to change the rules and abandon "disband promotions".

We've already seen the three biggest surprises - which also are the only two-digit deviations compared to the prediction. The only others finishing more than 5 spots higher than expected are Kraftwerk (but who can be surprised by them doing well anyway?) and HelloFresh, who were able to build up upon their great 2021 CT season and be very competitive in PCT.


But if there are some massive overperformers, the opposite must be true as well. Indeed, we have four teams doing far worse than expected. Most notably Bralirwa, who were predicted to finish 1st or 2nd in every single preview (having the same average prediction as Amaysim!), but in the end don't even finish inside the Top 10! Madrazo obviously was the key factor for this massive disappointment, maybe alongside Stallaert not being quite as dominant as last year.

Xero and Popo4Ever are pretty much in the same boat; they were expected to finish 4th and 5th, but in fact ended up 13th and 14th. Whereas the former had great leaders but not much depth (plus riders like Stannard not performing at all), the latter often had quite a lot of bad luck, losing races by a couple of seconds only. No promotion for both of them.

The other team (besides Bralirwa) ending up 9 spots below expectation are Voyagin - who only just escape relegation! They even got one win prediction, plus three more Top 10s - but both Kinoshita and Shikai didn't perform well enough to earn the team a Top 15 finish.

In terms of relegating teams, the community prediction has 3/5, with P:A and CCC expected to finish on the final two spots, and Strava also predicted to go down. Volcanica and Gjensidige were expected to be in the relegation fight, but rather be successful (Volcanica by all predictors, Gjensidige by all but one) - unlike Sauber and Trans, who were predicted on the bottom spots (Trans by all, Sauber by all but one).


So, what does that mean in terms of numbers? The community prediction has an average deviation of 4.7 spots per team. A value that's matched by one individual prediction - and beaten by four! So common wisdom clearly wasn't better than individual one here.

The winner of the Most accurate 2022 PCT Prediction award is... jandal with his Roundtable Analysis contribution! He missed the final outcome by 4.4 spots per team on average - so he wasn't far better than the community prediction, but he was better! Congratulations!

In 2nd place, we have two contributions: On one hand, Croatia's Roundtable Analysis contribution, and on the other hand the Roundtable Analysis itself! They are 4.5 spots off on average.

Again only slightly worse is redordead's 2022 PCT prediction, with an average deviation of 4.6. So at least the conglomerate didn't mop up the Top 5 spots...

Next are the community prediction itself, matched by knockout's contribution to the Roundtable Analysis. As said previously, both are 4.7 spots off per team. But all of these are really close together.

The remaining two predictions are slightly further off the benchmark, with early leader Abhi's Roundtable Analysis contribution turning out to be less exact at the end of the year than early on (5.3 spots off), and TinxiaS' post in the 2022 predictions for lazy/busy wizards with an average deviation of 6.9.


Thanks to you all for contributing, it's always interesting to see how the predictions compare to reality by the end of the year Smile
 
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