[2022] Stat Gains, XP, Team Info, Wildcards, Point Scales
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Stat Increases
Stat increases work the same way as they have done in the past. There are 5 levels of riders: Level 1, Level 2, Level 3, Level 4 and Maxed (Lvl 4 and 100 XP). Each time a rider gets to 100 xp they gain a level, and receive a stats increase of the manager's choice.
This choice comes from one of 12 categories. This file details the exact amount of gain that will be received, depending on Category, Level and Potential.
https://pcmdaily....tgains.xls
The XP for these increases is gained by racing. Each race day earns a particular amount of XP, depending on the category of race and level of the rider. If a riders fails to finish a race, they still receive the xp for the full race. It might look a bit more complicated this year as due to the calendar reduction the xp system is not within full or half points but it`s still easy to calculate by using excel obviously.
XP | Level 1 | Level 2 | Level 3 | Level 4 | GT | 0,0 | 0,0 | 1,1 | 2,1 | M | 0,0 | 0,0 | 1,1 | 2,1 | PT (PTHC fpr PCT) | 0,0 | 1,1 | 2,1 | 1,1 | HC (PTHC fpr PT) | 1,1 | 2,7 | 1,6 | 0,5 | C1 | 2,1 | 2,1 | 1,1 | 0,0 | C2 | 3,2 | 1,9 | 1,1 | 0,0 |
Additionally, the Tour de l'Avenir offers 20 xp to all riders who take part. Eligible riders this year are born in 1999 or later. This 20 xp is the first XP to be added to a rider during the XP calculation process. XP gained from normal races is then applied to a rider in an optimum fashion.
Riders may only gain 1 level per season, with the exception of Level 1 riders who are able to reach level 3. Though for riders born in 2001 onwards a development from level 1 to level 3 is not possible! Same counts for loaned out level 1 riders that did not include the 1->3 development clause/fee.
Any stat increases gained during the 2022 season will be applied after the season ends, ready for the 2023 DB.
The other form of stat increases is training. Prices might stay like last season but will be further explained later. Most rules from 2015 are still up to date with some small exceptions explaining later, e.g. additional trainings from the usual 5 per season depending on some limitations then, which are explained later on.
Eligibility for Training:
- Only riders born in 1992 or later are able to be trained
- Only riders who are 'maxed out' - i.e. their xp is 4.100 - are able to be trained
- If a rider only maxed out during the 2021 season, then he is not eligible to be trained - as his stats have already improved inbetween the 2021 and 2022 seasons. Similarly, newly added riders to the DB, or riders whose stats have been improved, cannot be trained. There is a coloumn in the transfers DB showing who is and who isn`t eligible. If this coloumn proves to have a mistake, this will be adjusted as the rules above are easy to check.
Stat Decreases
Also in the statgains file are the decreases that older riders will receive at the end of the season. Riders born in 1990 will receive their first decrease this time around.
Team Sizes
PT and PCT teams have a minimum team size of 20 riders and a maximum size of 30 riders.
CT teams have a minimum team size of 15 rider and a maximum size of 20 riders.
These counts include Loaned in riders, but do not include Loaned out riders. Stagiares count as half a rider in PCT/CT but do no longer count for the minimum for PT teams. You can have a maximum of 4 stagiares.
The team size for all teams in all races is 8 riders. There is a minimum of 6 riders for each race. If you cannot field at least 6 riders, you will not be allowed to take part in the race.
The only exceptions are the pure time trial events, which have a rider limit of 3 riders per team.
Salary Caps
PT: 3,500,000
PCT: 2,500,000
CT: 1,200,000
Each team has a loan cap of 200,000. The loan cap will be explained within the Transfer rules.
Wildcards (PCT>PT)
There will be 2 wildcard slots for PCT teams in all PT races - not just Grand Tours and Monuments. There is a package cost for applying to a particular race category - you can apply to as many races as you like within a category, once you have bought the package. (Although there is an overall limit of races to apply for)
Prices are the same as last year:
Classics | | €30,000 | Monuments | | €50,000 | Classics and Monuments | | €70,000 | Stage Races | | €70,000 | Grand Tours | | €100,000 | Grand Tours and Stage Races | | €150,000 | All PT Races | | €200,000 |
Points scored by PCT teams in PT races does not count towards the PCT standings, and the races do not cost any race days. Race clash rules do apply though.
Priority for Grand Tour wildcards goes to teams who have not previously ridden a GT.
CT Teams in HC Races
The soon to be posted HC bands will show which bands and races still have spots for CT managers.
If a CT team decides to ask for a HC race, this can be done in the C1C2 Race Selection file depending on open spots and priority lists as will be explained in the Race Selection Thread later.
Points scored will count towards the CT standings, race days are needed for team and riders though, just as with any other C1, C2 events.
Time Bonus
Most races use the usual system.
Finish line: 20-12-8 seconds
Sprint: 6-4-2 seconds
There are some races though, that are mainly sprinter focussed, hence getting a bit of a different system to reward consistent sprinters inside the top10 but without top results.
Finish line: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 seconds
Sprint: 3-2-1 seconds
The races with the 2nd system are
Ronde van Nederland | Tour Down Under | Tour of Qatar | Circulo de Juarez | Baltic Chain Tour | Tour of Guadeloupe | Ras Tailteann | USA Pro Cycling Challenge |
Grand Tours Points Competition
In the past couple years GC riders dominated the point classification. Therefore parts of the RL TdF points are rewarded in the finish of specific stages.
This goes for all 3 GTs in the PT division as also for the Tour of America.
Flat Stage: 50-30-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2
Hilly Stage: 30-25-22-19-17-15-13-11-9-7-6-5-4-3-2
Mountain Stage: 25-20-16-14-12-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
Mountain Top Stage: 20-17-15-13-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
The definition of the stage is not necessarily the symbol. For mountains this usually is, for stages that end slightly uphill, it either can be the flat or hilly rating depending on the way towards the finish.
We will going to check to see if this is really as you would expect it to be.
PCT in C2 Races
PCT teams will be required to sign up to 10 C2 race days. The restrictions on riders they can enter into C2 races will be adjusted. It will now be a maximum OVL of 74.49, with stat restrictions on Cobbles and TT/PRL having a max of 76 in any of those categories in races that feature this terrain.
Stat Gains
At the end of the 2022 season the newly gained xp will once again lead to stat increases of talents. You can find the full list of stat gain trainings in the file below:
https://pcmdaily....tgains.xls
Point Scales
Every stage, every GC, every jersey will deliver some points to the team/rider depending on position and race category. The exact point scale can be found here:
https://pcmdaily....Scales.xls
Edited by roturn on 20-08-2022 17:09
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Posted on 11-08-2022 11:56
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 11-08-2022 12:53
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I know a lot of old riders have been removed from the database and I'm not sure where we are with retirements at the moment as I can't tell which riders retired and which were just removed because they'd never get a contract with the current stats. Riders born in 1985 are retiring at the end of this year, right?
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roturn |
Posted on 11-08-2022 13:00
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Iirc riders like Andy Schleck retire after this season. |
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cunego59 |
Posted on 11-08-2022 14:14
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How are XP rounded? Up from .5 or always down?
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roturn |
Posted on 11-08-2022 17:15
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Always down.
So you need to reach 100,x to have the full level up.
99,9 won`t be enough to go from 1.0 to 2.0. |
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Marcovdw |
Posted on 11-08-2022 20:12
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The dropbox link under Stat Increases still refers to the 2019 stat gains. Also, not sure if you meant to have your training plans revealed in the 2022 file
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Posted on 11-08-2022 20:25
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Well, the decrease tab might be the funniest one
Development paths of talents I don't know aren't that interesting, though - just the way roturn plays around with the file
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Posted on 15-08-2022 14:47
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What happens if a rider goes over the 85 stat limit with stat gains?
"I am a cyclist, I may not be the best, but that is what I strive to be. I may never get there, but I will never quit trying." - Tadej Pogačar
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Posted on 15-08-2022 14:49
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redordead wrote:
What happens if a rider goes over the 85 stat limit with stat gains?
He will stay at 85 no matter what happens.
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roturn |
Posted on 19-08-2022 10:53
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Point Scales 2022 added to the first post. |
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quadsas |
Posted on 20-08-2022 16:52
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Is that the old fighter statgain in the file?
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roturn |
Posted on 20-08-2022 17:00
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No.
It`s the one we used this offseason in the stat gain choices and was first posted last year in this thread: https://pcmdaily....d_id=59254
The old one e.g. wouldn`t give mountain increase at all or TT only from 3>4 and pot6/7. |
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Posted on 20-08-2022 17:06
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roturn wrote:
No.
It`s the one we used this offseason in the stat gain choices and was first posted last year in this thread: https://pcmdaily....d_id=59254
The old one e.g. wouldn`t give mountain increase at all or TT only from 3>4 and pot6/7.
Yeah, the one at the bottom is fine, the top one is old
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Posted on 20-08-2022 17:09
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True. Missed that there was a top one actually. Is fixed now as well there. |
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Posted on 21-08-2022 14:46
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I forget this every season, but can someone please remind me if riders aged 25 in the DB are youth jersey eligible or not? Seeing as 23-year-olds in the DB are Avenir eligible I think 25-year-olds in the DB should be youth jersey eligible but would like confirmation.
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Posted on 21-08-2022 14:56
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Usually they are. It's their first maxed season (if they started with 22 and had the normal dev path), and they're usually U25 eligible. Trained riders aren't, and that's a good thing
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Posted on 26-08-2022 08:19
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Can riders only do the Avenir once?
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roturn |
Posted on 26-08-2022 08:24
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Once a season but 2-3 times over their career normally.
Most riders get added at age 22 and will do it twice at age 22 & 23.
Some riders get added at age 21, who then can to it another time.
In the end, this way, no rider will do it maxed or trained as it happened earlier, when riders were added at 18 or 19 as well. |
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GregPeck |
Posted on 28-08-2022 15:08
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If you have a level 1 rider, who levels up to level 2 during the season, will he gain XP as a lvl. 1 or lvl. 2 rider on his way to lvl. 3 in the same season? |
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