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[PT 22] ELCO - ABEA
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Welcome to the newly founded Greek cycling team ELCO - ABEA. The team is founded on the license of newly folded Festina - OAKA, and will ride their first ever season at Pro Tour level. Despite the team taking over the license the team will have a strict nationality foundation, that ensures the best possible development of Greek cycling.


..::Team Name::..
ELCO - ABEA

..::Team Manager::..
Andreas

..::History::..
No previous history

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..::Last Season Standing::..
No previous results


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GC Riders
William Chiarello | Age: 31 | 235.000€
Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Age: 25 | 140.000€

Puncheurs
Clement Koretzky | Age: 32 | 450.000€
Aimiliano Vila | Age: 25 | 50.000€
Charalampas Kastrantas | Age: 31 | 50.000€
Andreas Miltiadis | Age: 26 | 65.000€
Victor Lafay | Age: 26 | 50.000€
Emmanuel Morin | Age: 27 | 50.000€
Lorenzo Delco | Age: 27 | 50.000€

Climbers
Michail Mavrikakis | Age: 28 | 75.000€
Ioannis Spanopoulos | Age: 29 | 100.000€
Alexandros Agrotis | Age: 24 | 50.000€
Jordan Jegat | Age: 23 | 10.000€ (Stagiare)

Sprinters
Bryan Coquard | Age: 30 | 625.000€
Stylianos Farantakis | Age: 27 | 400.000€
Georgios Bouglas | Age: 32 | 50.000€
Anastasios Koumpetsos | Age: 26 | 50.000€

Cobblers
Georgios Karatzios | Age: 32 | 115.000€
Michail Kortsidakis | Age: 28 | 85.000€
Georgios Stavrakakis | Age: 24 | 50.000€

Timetriallists
Panagiotis Vlatos | Age: 32 | 135.000€
Nikolaos Ioannidis | Age: 29 | 75.000€
Ioannis Kiriakidis | Age: 25 | 150.000€
Jean Bosco Nsengimana | Age: 31 | 50.000€
Joshua Kelly | Age 26 | 50.000€

*Average age: 27,1

Away on loan
Panagiotis Karatsivis | Age: 21 | 75.000€
Dimitrios Christakos | Age: 23 | 50.000€
Pangiotis Christapopoulos | Age: 27 | 60.000€
Alex Mengoulas | Age: 25 | 50.000€
Alexandros Matsangos | Age: 23 | 50.000€
Jay Vine | Age: 27 | 100.000€
Joel Yates | Age: 26 | 50.000€



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Tour de FranceWinFAILED8th William Chiarello
Chrono d'ArenbergWinFAILED7th Georgios Stavrakakis
Praha-Karlovy V.-PrahaTop 3 FAILED23rd Ioannis Kiriakidis
Chrono des HerbiersTop 3 FAILED5th Panagiotis Vlatos
Team StandingsTop 10ACHIEVED7th ELCO - ABEA




Personal note:
Thank you so much for the kind words in the Festina-thread, through PM, Skype chats etc. - It has meant A LOT to me! Really! At the point of closure I had decided to stop the game, but your comments helped me open my eyes as to how much I appreciate not only the game, but also the community in which it is played.

My motivation has been going in the wrong direction for a couple of seasons, but isn't at an all time low. With the new setup I try to move away from the elements of the game I cannot control, and thus annoy me and strip away my motivation. Instead I will try to fight with new motivation and help the game thrive under a more positive attitude - and gratitude. Whether I can actually live up to that is another matter, but I will try my best.
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STAGE WINS

Andreas Miltiadis | Tour de France, Stage 6
William Chiarello | Vuelta a España, Stage 14
Stylianos Farantakis | Tirreno-Adriatico, Stage 2
Stylianos Farantakis | Tour of Slovenia, Stage 1
Bryan Coquard | Paris-Nice, Stage 2
Bryan Coquard | Paris-Nice, Stage 3
Bryan Coquard | Deutschland Tour, Stage 2
Bryan Coquard | Deutschland Tour, Stage 4
Bryan Coquard | Deutschland Tour, Stage 5

2ND, STAGE

William Chiarello | Tour de France, Stage 19
William Chiarello | Vuelta a España, Stage 13
Georgios Bouglas | Tour de France, Stage 3
Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Giro d'Italia, Stage 9
Bryan Coquard | Paris-Nice, Stage 5
Bryan Coquard | Tour of Tasmania, Stage 1
Bryan Coquard | Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha, Stage 4
Bryan Coquard | Ronde van Nederland, Stage 3
Bryan Coquard | Tour of Qatar, Stage 3
Stylianos Farantakis | Tour of Qatar, Stage 2
Clement Koretzky | Tour of Lithuania, Stage 4
Clement Koretzky | Tour of Slovenia, Stage 3
Panagiotis Vlatos | Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha, Stage 1

3RD, STAGE

William Chiarello | Tour de France, Stage 18
Ioannidis Kiriakidis | Tirreno-Adriatico, Stage 7
Bryan Coquard | Paris-Nice, Stage 7
Bryan Coquard | Ronde van Nederland, Stage 1
Bryan Coquard | Tour of Qatar, Stage 1
Georgios Bouglas | Tour of Qatar, Stage 2
Ioannis Spanopoulos | Volta a Portugal, Stage 7

OVERALL TOP 20

#1 Bryan Coquard | Ronde van Nederland
#1 Bryan Coquard | Riga - Jurmala
#2 Clement Koretzky | Tour of Lithuania
#4 Bryan Coquard | Milano - San Remo
#4 Bryan Coquard | Tour of Qatar
#4 Bryan Coquard | GP Moscow
#5 Clement Koretzky | Grand Prix Cyclistes
#5 Charalampas Kastrantas | Classique du Grand-Duché
#5 Panagiotis Vlatos | Chrono des Herbiers
#6 Panagiotis Vlatos | Chrono d'Arenberg
#6 Ioannidis Kiriakidis | Tour of Northern Europe
#6 Georgios Karatzios | Rheden GP
#7 Clement Koretzky | Classique du Grand-Duché
#7 Georgios Stavrakakis | Chrono d'Arenberg
#8 William Chiarello | Tour de France
#8 William Chiarello | Vuelta a España
#8 Stylianos Farantakis | Tour of Qatar
#10 Clement Koretzky | Liege-Bastogne-Liege
#10 Bryan Coquard | Rund um Köln
#10 Ioannis Spanopoulos | Scandinavian Open Road Race
#10 Ioannis Spanopoulos | Tour of Lithuania
#11 Michail Mavrikakis | Tour of Lithuania
#12 Bryan Coquard | Veenendaal - Veenendaal
#13 William Chiarello | Tour of Tasmania
#13 Panagiotis Vlatos | Deutschland Tour
#15 Georgios Karatzios | Roma Maxima
#16 William Chiarello | Paris-Nice
#16 William Chiarello | GP Liechtenstein
#16 Michail Mavrikakis | Volta a Portugal
#18 Clement Koretzky | Amstel Gold Race
#18 Clement Koretzky | Balkans International
#19 Clement Koretzky | Fleche Wallonne
#19 Ioannis Spanopoulos | Volta a Portugal
#19 Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Scandinavian Open Road Race
#20 Michail Kortsidakis | Roma Maxima

KOM RESULTS

#5 Joshua Kelly | Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha
#8 Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Giro d'Italia
#10 Michail Mavrikakis | Volta a Portugal

PTS RESULTS

#1 Bryan Coquard | Paris-Nice
#1 Bryan Coquard | Ronde van Nederland
#1 Bryan Coquard | Deutschland Tour
#3 Bryan Coquard | Tour of Qatar
#5 Stylianos Farantakis | Tirreno-Adriatico
#6 Bryan Coquard | Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha
#7 Bryan Coquard | Tour of Tasmania
#9 William Chiarello | Vuelta a España
#9 Clement Koretzky | Tour of Lithuania
#10 Panagiotis Vlatos | Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha

U25 RESULTS

#1 Ioannidis Kiriakidis | Tour of Northern Europe
#2 Ioannidis Kiriakidis | Tour of Tasmania
#2 Ioannidis Kiriakidis | Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha
#3 Ioannidis Kiriakidis | Tour of Qatar
#3 Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Scandinavian Open Road Race
#4 Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Tour de France
#5 Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Giro d'Italia
#5 Ioannidis Kiriakidis | Scandinavian Open Road Race
#5 Ioannidis Kiriakidis | Deutschland Tour
#7 Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Tour of Tasmania
#7 Miltiadis Giannoutsos | Paris-Nice
#7 Aimiliano Vila | Ronde van Nederland
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The Greek Cycling Mythologi:
Cycling didn’t exactly start in ancient Greece, but that doesn’t mean that the mythologi is non-existent. Greece have their Heroes, their God’s and their warriors – And this is their story. The story of the biggest Greek achievements. Told by the man who has been in charge of the majority of the best the Greeks have ever seen.

It was a different time back then. It was back in 2011, when the first Greek cyclist signed a professional contract at the worlds elite. The sprinting talent of Georgos Tzortzakis became the cycling God of Greece by a single stroke of a pen. Signing a contract with Pro Tour setup, Festina – Corona, only to be loaned out to the lower divisions immediately. The sole existence of the God was short lived, as the 2012 season also saw Panagiotis Vlatos sign at the Festina setup, now co-sponsored by Conec. One God became two – but neither was ready to shine their glory upon the biggest scene, and left the team for training their skills at the lower levels of cycling.

By many the future glory of Greek cycling was ignored entirely, but the two Gods sparked an immediate interest within the country, and by the start of 2013 a new record high (6) amount of Greek cyclist had found their way into the professional scene. Perikles Ilias and baby-brother og the first God, Polychonis Tzortzakis (The warriors), signed with other teams, while the Festina-setup adopted further two members of the Greek hero/warrior-assembly. The first hero (level just below gods) was Charalampas Kastrantas with Ioannis Tamouridis as a warrior. And while the Gods fared well in the valleys, the Hero started to rise into the hills and Greece started to expand. While Tzortzakis and Kastrantas kept working their strengths at lower level it was Tamouridis and Vlatos who became the first ever riders to ride a full Pro Tour season.

The shift from 2013 to 2014 saw some remarkable changes, that hit Greek cycling hard. Festina was in a dire economic situation, which lead Tamouridis to be the first Greek Warrior to leave the scene. The wages of Kastrantas couldn’t be covered by Festina, and he left to Gazelle at the Pro Continental Tour. What seemed to be a rise of Greek glory suddenly seemed like a program in dissolvement. The two God’s was still within the team, but there was massive work to be done to ensure that Greek cycling would evolve, rather than stop. The warriors, Ilias and P. Tzortzakis kept up the fight and played a vital role in the development of the history. In the midst of the Greek collapse, the brothers from Cyprus started rising to the occasion, and Athanasiades, Skettos and Adamou signed professional contracts at Privatbank and Euskaltel. While neither of them would ever move past the rank of Warriors, they did their time, and worked as motivation for the younger generation.

The downfall quickly turned into a genuine revolution. The first ever Greek cycling team formed at Continental level – Elta Hellenic Post gave home to many new (and old) warriors. Simantirakis, Gkazonis, Tamouridis, Ilias, Sakellaridis, A. Bouglas, G. Bouglas, Katrakis, Drakakis, Karatzios, Efstatiou and Volikakis joined forces to create a solid base for the future. From Cyprus also Skettos (brother) and Loizou joined. Due to the enhanced interest in Greek cycling, also warriors like Chatzakis found a home at Buff – Polska. Kastrantas had found his way back home to the Festina team which still housed the Gods of Tzortzakis and Vlatos. From the depths of doom to the rise of Greek as a true cycling nation The Elta – Hellenic Post team and the warriors of the past deserves a massive chant from the warriors of today! They changed the endgame in a way that no one saw coming!

The Elta – Hellenic team continued for another season, and further developed some of the riders we know today, such as Nikolaos Ioannidis and Georgios Karatzios. At the other end of the spectrum we saw fully developed top athletes like Vlatos, Tzortzakis and Kastrantas help win the Pro Tour division for Festina 3 years in a row, which put a massive interest in Greek cycling. Also the 2016 season saw one of the future Heroes rise from the dirt. Stylianos Farantakis signed with Compal-Merida, while Georgios Bouglas joined the World Cycling Centre to further spread the word of Greek cycling.

The one and only Greek cycling team folded by the end of 2016 leaving numerous Greek riders behind. Some was picked up, but most wasn’t. The legend of Neofytos Sakellaridis signed for Generali, while P. Tzortzakis kept fighting at different sides at PCT level. Youngster Farantakis had sparked and interest within the Festina setup who signed him on an august-november stagiare contract, to show his potential. The immediate stop of Elta – Hellenic Post did leave the talent development in ruins, however and only 1 Cypriot had contract in 2017 after a record high 4 in 2015. Likewise Greece had fallen from it’s glory days of 17 professional riders to now just 7. The level, however – Had increased drastically!

2018 became interesting for the sport due to the invention of amateur teams, that gave room for talents and misfits to prove themselves. This gave room for the talents of Ioannidis Kiriakidis and Cypriot Andreas Miltiadis to grow. It was also in 2018 the scouts of Festina had finally noticed that the leftovers of the now past Elta – Hellenic team, and the development sector of Greece was a diamond in the rough. In came Georgios Karatzios as one of the new Heroes as well as Warriors Nikolaos Ioannidis and Miltiadis Giannoutsos who was loaned out to develop them in a manor known by Vlatos and Tzortzakis. Cypriot Armanto Archimandritis game through on a short deal aswell. Other talents, such as Zisis Soulious and Anastasios Koumpetsos joined the warrior league of development aswell. For the first time since the abandoning of Elta – Hellenic Post we had a team who invested heavily in Greek cycling. And it was about time. One of the Gods, Georgios Tzortzakis turned 33 and his top end speed wasn’t what it used to be.

2019 sparked a full scale investment of professional Greek cycling, when the state offered the sporting university of OAKA a place alongside the name of Festina. After 2 years of negligent investment the Greek sporting department noticed a healthy development, and jumped the bandwagon to further enhance that. At this point the Festina – OAKA setup had a massive 10 Greeks and 1 Cypriot assigned, while 2 other Cypriots and 5 greeks had contracts elsewhere. The cycling God of Tzortzakis had stepped down after a huge career (likely the single most dominant Greek rider ever) to ride at Andorra Cycling Project. Aimiliano Vila, Michail Mavrikakis, Michail Kortsidakis and Ioannis Spanopoulos all became new contracted warriors, and in the meantime Charalampas Kastrantas had nearly grown from a Hero to a God, taking stagewins in Grand Tours, aswell as fighting for the KOM glory.

In more recent time a few more have joined the party and by 2021 - 18 Greek and 4 Cypriots – formed a new all time record high. A development that is bound to continue with the newly founded ELKO – Abea setup, founded on the ashes of Festina – OAKA who announced their stop in professional cycling 3 quarters into the 2021 season.

 
Greek Cycling Gods:
Georgios Tzortzakis (2011-2020) x points
3x stagewins, Giro d’Italia (2015, 2018)
Win Lisbon Classic 2017
3rd B World Championships 2014
3rd GC, Tour d’Afrique 2016
5th Praha – Karlovy Vary – Praha 2015
7th GP Moscow 2014
Stagewin, Deutschland Tour 2016
2x 2nd place stage, Giro d’Italia (2015)
2x 3rd place stage, Tour de France (2018)
2nd place stage, Tour of Northern Europe 2016
2nd place stage, Deutsckland Tour 2016
3rd place stage, Tirreno-Adriatico 2016
3rd place stage, Tour of Colombia 2016
3rd place stage, Tour of Qatar 2015
3rd place stage, Tour of California 2014
2nd and 10th PTS Deutschland Tour (2016, 2015)
3rd PTS Tour d’Afrique 2016
8th PTS Tour of Qatar 2015
10th PTS Tour of Northern Europe 2016

Panagiotis Vlatos (2012-Present) x points
Stagewin, Tour de France 2020
2x Stagewin, Tour of Qatar (2016, 2019)
Stagewin, Tour de Suisse 2019
Stagewin, Tour de Pologne 2019
Stagewin, Tirreno-Adriatico 2018
Yellow Jersey wearer, Tour de France 2020
2nd and 6th GC, Praha – Karlovy Vary – Praha (2018, 2021)
3rd and 4th and 8th GC, Deutschland Tour (2021, 2020, 2018)
5th and 6th and 2x 7th Chronos des Herbiers (2021, 2017, 2018, 2016)
7th Chrono d’Arenberg 2021
9th Tour of Qatar 2016
2nd place stage, Vuelta a España 2021
2nd place stage, Tour de Suisse 2021
2nd place stage, Praha – Karlovy Vary – Praha 2018
2nd place stage, Tour of Northern Europe 2017
2nd place stage, Tour of Norway 2017
3rd place stage, Criterium du Dauphiné 2020
4th PTS, Deutschland Tour 2018
6th U25 Tour of Qatar 2015

Greek Cycling Heroes:
Charalampas Kastrantas (2012-Present) x points
Stagewin, Vuelta a España 2019
Stagewin, Criterium du Dauphine 2016
2nd place stage, Vuelta a España 2019
6th PTS Vuelta a España 2019
8th U25 Deutschland Tour 2016

Georgios Karatzios (2015-Present) x points
Win Rheden GP 2021
10th Franceville Classique

Ranking:
The ranking of Greek cyclings finest is achieved by the following:
0 Titan | +3000 points
1 God | +1500 points
2 Hero | +500 points
3 Warrior | 0-500 points

RankNameActive periodTotal points202120202019
1 GodPanagiotis Vlatos2012-Current2780552495346
1 GodGeorgos Tzortzakis2012-20191947002
2 HeroCharalampas Kastrantas2013-Current1424118211316
2 HeroGeorgios Karatzios2018-Current700293198139
3 WarriorNikolaos Ioannidis2016-Current415143119141
3 WarriorPerikles Ilias2013-2015373000
3 WarriorStylianos Farantakis2016-Current3482515032
3 WarriorMichail Kortsidakis2018-Current33213956133
3 WarriorMichail Mavrikakis2019-Current3032045643
3 WarriorGeorgios Bouglas2017-Current2735712619
3 WarriorMiltiadis Giannoutsos2019-Current2581011498
3 WarriorIoannis Spanopoulos2019-Current251957977
3 WarriorIoannidis Kiriakidis2018-Current203126734
3 WarriorAndreas Miltiadis2018-Current190917722
3 WarriorVassilis Adamou2013-2016165000
2 HeroesArmanto Archimandritis2018-20191590039
3 WarriorIoannis Tamouridis2009-2015151000
3 WarriorAimiliano Vila2019-Current127101242
3 WarriorMarios Athanasiades2013-2017125000
3 WarriorPolychronis Tzortzakis2014-Current99141212
3 WarriorZisis Soulious2020-Current9281110
3 WarriorConstantinos Thymides2018-201869000
3 WarriorNeofytos Sakellaridis2015-201667000
3 WarriorAlexandros Agrotis2020-Current636120
3 WarriorGeorgios Boutopoulos2021-Current545400
3 WarriorGeorgios Stavrakakis2020-Current524660
3 WarriorVasileios Simantirakis2015-201540000
3 WarriorAnastasios Koumpetsos2018-201834000
3 WarriorPetros Gkazonis2015-201631000
3 WarriorApostolos Bouglas2015-201630000
3 WarriorKonstantinos Efstathiou2015-201521000
3 WarriorMichael Christodoulos2020-Current201910
3 WarriorPangiotis Christapopoulos2021-Current8800
3 WarriorChristos Volikakis2015-20155000
3 WarriorIoannis Drakakis2015-20164000
3 WarriorChristos Katrakis2016-20163000
3 WarriorKyriakos Skettos2014-20153000
3 WarriorDimitrios Christakos2021-Current2200
3 WarriorVasilis Anastopoulos2009-20091000
3 WarriorAlexandros Matsangos2021-Current0000
3 WarriorChristos Loizou2016-20160000
3 WarriorPanagiotis Chatzakis2015-20150000
3 WarriorTomotheos Skettos2015-20150000
3 WarriorHermes Antoniou2012-20120000
Sum11222255617451335

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MacC
Great news! Do I understand you will compete in the POT with only Greek and Cypriot riders?
 
SotD
MacC wrote:
Great news! Do I understand you will compete in the POT with only Greek and Cypriot riders?


That's the plan yes - But I will sign some talents/leaders that can be sold on in the next season, otherwise I have no chance of accumulating money for training my greek riders.

But we will attempt to build a full size squad of Greek/Cypriot riders (23-25 riders or so) and then see what is left. Could be that I keep a rider that I swap in from a sale of an existing rider - or could be something I can pick up from the FA pool. Haven't really decided, as they won't play much of a role.

I'm still playing with how I can make it work. Maybe those riders will ride all the same races to not mix up the "non-greeks" with the greeks.
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Best of luck!
 
Nemolito
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Maybe those riders will ride all the same races to not mix up the "non-greeks" with the greeks.


So you're advocating for some kind of Greek apartheid? Pfft

Very happy to read that you're continuing and looking forward to your transfer season. I expect some heavy training is on the way. Got to say I'm a bit surprised that you'll sell Aidan as well.
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SotD wrote:
Maybe those riders will ride all the same races to not mix up the "non-greeks" with the greeks.


So you're advocating for some kind of Greek apartheid? Pfft

Very happy to read that you're continuing and looking forward to your transfer season. I expect some heavy training is on the way. Got to say I'm a bit surprised that you'll sell Aidan as well.


Absolutely. We might even begin to conquer other nations Wink

Yeah, selling Aidan is probably also the worst part of it, but it doesn't really make sense to keep him if I can't train him like I planned to - and it will heavily influence the development of my Greek riders if I have to invest 2-3 mio in Aidan each season.

So for now he's on the ramp aswell, and I hope to find him a home where he is a key priority!
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Very nice turn of events! Happy to see you continue playing the MG, SotD Grin

Can't wait to see what kind of training you'll do. I guess all the sales you are "forced" to do this season could fund your training for several seasons moving forward Pfft Should be great to follow!
 
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Was going to have a moan (well probably not but I was going to think a moan Pfft) about someone changing sponsors completely to random letters - but I think this is a pretty good reason to and one I'll never complain about. Didn't leave a comment in your HQ yet because to be honest I didn't know if you were leaving or not from your posts, very happy to see you are because as everyone else said it would have been one of the greatest losses we could have had.

Love to see the all-in Greek direction and can't wait to follow your progress. Real end of a great era in MG history with Festina gone, but look forward to the next chapter - even if officially it's a whole new team (which should really mean you don't get to sell those other riders Pfft)
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hillis91
Super happy that you are continuing on.
A key part of the MG community.

And a sweet jersey aswell Smile
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Thanks guys Smile

I guess the money will be short lived with the amount of trainings I hopefully can do. Taxes tend to make things difficult, but I'll definately give it my best Smile

And oh of course. Hillis was/is the creator of the jersey! Added that directly below the jersey now. Sorry for forgetting mate!
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alexkr00
Now I feel like you were playing us all along Pfft

But the MG superstar that shares a last name with me (in a different language) is now available. Hmm. Probably going to have to sell my entire team to afford him Pfft
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Originally posted in the continuation thread because I couldn't hold back my excitement. Pfft

Really excited that you're continuing. I hope that really going for a unique Greek project will help you recapture that motivation. Smile
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Oh wow, so happy to see you staying around mate and what a nice project you have for seasons coming. Grin
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DubbelDekker
Great news!
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Eden95
Awesome to see you sticking around, I love the all-in on Greeks and Cypriots! Also love the attention they’ll receive through training. This team in a few years will look very interesting Smile
Indosat - ANZ HQ

"This Schleck sandwich is going to cause serious indigestion for Evans" - Phil Liggett
 
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