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Bikex
Posted on 09-12-2021 14:39
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Bikex wrote:
Budgets now correct in renewals file. Please redownload the renewals file!
Sorry about that! The changes are mostly not big
If the change makes you would've done something differently in the bids you already sent in let me know.
Now about the focus races:
82 Team BP WT 942 6 Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team WT 898 85 KBC Godiva WT 880 7 Liberty Seguros WT 862 44 Suntory Lucozade Sport WT 751 41 Grupo Argos - Quala WT 712 53 Sevilla Cycling Team WT 572 23 Italo WT 571 75 Bosch Cycling Team CT 558 93 Trans Cycling Team CT 521 42 Alitalia WT 458 50 CCC Sprandi Polkowice WT 451 68 Credit Suisse WT 403 12 Allianz - BMW Cycling Team WT 375 86 Brugse Zot - Trek CT 372 58 Équipe Cycliste Peugeot WT 361 40 Pedal Africa for Qhubeka CT 334 43 Baku Synergy Plus WT 330 32 Team Cymru Wales CT 290 90 Magnum - Madshus CT 242 80 Equinor Pro Cycling Team CT 228 88 Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm CT 219 35 Nordea Bank - SAP CT 216 15 Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini WT 206 61 VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff CT 205 91 Guinness Cycling p/b BlackBerry CT 198 89 Tierra del Fuego CT 180 81 Shell Pro Cycling CT 174 87 Millenium - LATAM Airlines CT 136 70 Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor CT 84 63 Deutsche Bahn WT 76 92 VIP Mobile CT 75 46 ICBC Cycling Team CT 32 52 Santos - Euskadi WT 31 94 Education First x Palace - Nippo CT -7 1 Vegeta Cycling Team WT -37 56 Strava - Avanti CT -110 95 Cadejo - Bike Xpress CT -167
Detailed race data:
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Id team race cat points #t res 1 Vegeta Cycling Team World TTT Championships WT 125 8,25% 24 124 1 Vegeta Cycling Team Chrono des Nations CT.1 62 6,85% 17 15 1 Vegeta Cycling Team Int. Österreich-Rundfahrt CT.1 75 3,13% 21 -26 1 Vegeta Cycling Team Trofeo Campania WT 38 2,44% 20 -54 1 Vegeta Cycling Team Deutschland Tour WT 16 0,39% 22 -96 6 Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team Milano - Sanremo MON 469 21,40% 24 270 6 Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team Paris - Roubaix MON 300 13,69% 19 203 6 Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team Ronde van Vlaanderen MON 216 9,85% 21 167 6 Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team Deutschland Tour WT 489 11,92% 22 159 6 Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team Eneco Tour WT 300 8,55% 21 100 7 Liberty Seguros Vuelta a Guatemala WT 815 21,97% 22 210 7 Liberty Seguros Giro d'Italia GT 1278 10,55% 24 198 7 Liberty Seguros Tour de France TDF 1338 9,77% 21 184 7 Liberty Seguros Strade Bianche WT 169 10,86% 22 146 7 Liberty Seguros Il Lombardia MON 176 8,03% 22 124 12 Allianz - BMW Cycling Team Giro d'Italia GT 1525 12,59% 24 230 12 Allianz - BMW Cycling Team Strade Bianche WT 170 10,93% 22 147 12 Allianz - BMW Cycling Team Course de la Paix WT 325 8,79% 20 96 12 Allianz - BMW Cycling Team Course du Lac d'Annecy WT 96 6,17% 21 37 12 Allianz - BMW Cycling Team Liège - Bastogne - Liège MON 0 0,00% 21 -135 15 Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini Vuelta a España GT 1440 11,93% 20 188 15 Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco WT 582 15,69% 20 183 15 Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini La Flèche Wallonne WT 67 4,31% 21 -10 15 Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini Il Lombardia MON 58 2,65% 22 -56 15 Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini Tour de France TDF 224 1,64% 21 -98 23 Italo Course de la Paix WT 582 15,75% 20 183 23 Italo Vuelta a Tachira WT 545 12,05% 20 148 23 Italo Liège - Bastogne - Liège MON 175 7,98% 21 110 23 Italo Giro d'Italia GT 960 7,92% 24 146 23 Italo Il Lombardia MON 88 4,01% 22 -16 32 Team Cymru Wales Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha CT.2 130 18,03% 17 103 32 Team Cymru Wales Post Danmark Rundt CT.2 298 15,94% 17 93 32 Team Cymru Wales RideLondon–Surrey Classic CT.2 92 12,76% 24 103 32 Team Cymru Wales Circulo de Juarez CT.2 87 4,90% 19 -4 32 Team Cymru Wales Tour of Britain CT.1 136 5,13% 18 -6 35 Nordea Bank - SAP Post Danmark Rundt CT.2 267 14,29% 17 85 35 Nordea Bank - SAP Rheinland-Pfalz Rundfahrt CT.2 149 8,39% 23 67 35 Nordea Bank - SAP Volta ao Algarve CT.2 134 8,00% 17 26 35 Nordea Bank - SAP Tour do Rio CT.2 60 8,32% 20 48 35 Nordea Bank - SAP Clasica Iberica CT.2 38 5,27% 16 -9 40 Pedal Africa for Qhubeka Tour of South Africa CT.2 355 14,99% 20 102 40 Pedal Africa for Qhubeka Tour of Oman CT.2 335 19,99% 17 109 40 Pedal Africa for Qhubeka Volta a Portugal CT.2 242 10,22% 21 76 40 Pedal Africa for Qhubeka Vuelta a Colombia CT.2 131 5,56% 21 12 40 Pedal Africa for Qhubeka Amgen Tour of California CT.2 134 6,45% 23 35 41 Grupo Argos - Quala Virginia Chrono Tour WT 1116 37,92% 23 210 41 Grupo Argos - Quala Tour of Toowoomba WT 559 15,94% 23 199 41 Grupo Argos - Quala Chrono des Nations CT.1 179 19,78% 17 136 41 Grupo Argos - Quala Tour des Fjords CT.1 413 19,36% 19 143 41 Grupo Argos - Quala Istrian Spring Trophy CT.1 134 6,32% 20 24 42 Alitalia Grand Prix of Sochi WT 546 15,69% 18 169 42 Alitalia Virginia Chrono Tour WT 343 11,65% 23 162 42 Alitalia Tour de France TDF 1030 7,52% 21 104 42 Alitalia Tour of Toowoomba WT 257 7,33% 23 86 42 Alitalia World TTT Championships WT 25 1,65% 24 -63 43 Baku Synergy Plus Trofeo Campania WT 370 23,78% 20 210 43 Baku Synergy Plus Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco WT 340 9,16% 20 105 43 Baku Synergy Plus Ster ZLM Tour WT 219 6,27% 22 48 43 Baku Synergy Plus Giro d'Italia GT 659 5,44% 24 50 43 Baku Synergy Plus Liège - Bastogne - Liège MON 41 1,87% 21 -82 44 Suntory Lucozade Sport Vuelta a España GT 1902 15,76% 20 236 44 Suntory Lucozade Sport Int. Österreich-Rundfahrt CT.1 517 21,57% 21 150 44 Suntory Lucozade Sport Il Lombardia MON 187 8,53% 22 142 44 Suntory Lucozade Sport Eneco Tour WT 267 7,61% 21 75 44 Suntory Lucozade Sport La Tropicale Amissa Bongo CT.1 493 19,49% 20 148 46 ICBC Cycling Team Tour d'Indonesia CT.2 199 10,61% 16 50 46 ICBC Cycling Team Vuelta a Colombia CT.2 160 6,79% 21 31 46 ICBC Cycling Team Qinghai Lake Cycle Cup CT.2 52 7,21% 16 11 46 ICBC Cycling Team Tour of Oman CT.2 100 5,97% 17 1 46 ICBC Cycling Team Japan Cup CT.1 7 0,77% 24 -61 50 CCC Sprandi Polkowice Milano - Sanremo MON 192 8,76% 24 169 50 CCC Sprandi Polkowice Virginia Chrono Tour WT 232 7,88% 23 102 50 CCC Sprandi Polkowice Giro d'Italia GT 875 7,22% 24 119 50 CCC Sprandi Polkowice Tour de France TDF 901 6,58% 21 69 50 CCC Sprandi Polkowice Trofeo Campania WT 72 4,63% 20 -8 52 Santos - Euskadi Vuelta a Tachira WT 369 8,16% 20 80 52 Santos - Euskadi Vuelta a España GT 620 5,14% 20 4 52 Santos - Euskadi La Tropicale Amissa Bongo CT.1 153 6,05% 20 19 52 Santos - Euskadi Tour de Suisse CT.1 72 2,58% 24 -28 52 Santos - Euskadi Wallonië Prijs CT.1 21 2,32% 18 -44 53 Sevilla Cycling Team Tour of Mount Fuji WT 702 20,10% 22 210 53 Sevilla Cycling Team Vuelta a Tachira WT 758 16,76% 20 190 53 Sevilla Cycling Team Giro d'Italia GT 1279 10,56% 24 198 53 Sevilla Cycling Team Il Lombardia MON 125 5,70% 22 41 53 Sevilla Cycling Team La Flèche Wallonne WT 27 1,74% 21 -67 56 Strava - ANZ Virginia Chrono Tour WT 185 6,29% 23 56 56 Strava - ANZ Copenhagen - Malmö ITT CT.2 46 6,38% 15 -3 56 Strava - ANZ Palm Classic WT 55 3,53% 23 -20 56 Strava - ANZ World Ports Classic CT.1 11 0,66% 21 -65 56 Strava - ANZ Ster ZLM Tour WT 39 1,12% 22 -79 58 Équipe Cycliste Peugeot Paris - Roubaix MON 283 12,91% 19 193 58 Équipe Cycliste Peugeot Paris - Tours WT 208 13,37% 21 168 58 Équipe Cycliste Peugeot Ster ZLM Tour WT 235 6,73% 22 61 58 Équipe Cycliste Peugeot Deutschland Tour WT 235 5,73% 22 33 58 Équipe Cycliste Peugeot Ronde van Vlaanderen MON 32 1,46% 21 -94 61 VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff Volta a Portugal CT.2 383 16,17% 21 109 61 VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff Colombia Team GP CT.1 130 14,53% 15 97 61 VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff Circuit des Ardennes CT.2 101 6,04% 21 19 61 VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff Tour d'Andorra CT.2 97 5,46% 16 -8 61 VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff Tour of South Africa CT.2 94 3,97% 20 -12 63 Deutsche Bahn Paris - Roubaix MON 153 6,98% 19 53 63 Deutsche Bahn Gent - Wevelgem WT 74 4,76% 21 0 63 Deutsche Bahn Milano - Sanremo MON 107 4,88% 24 28 63 Deutsche Bahn Strade Bianche WT 70 4,50% 22 -1 63 Deutsche Bahn Liège - Bastogne - Liège MON 102 4,65% 21 -3 68 Credit Suisse Giro d'Italia GT 1197 9,88% 24 187 68 Credit Suisse Liège - Bastogne - Liège MON 207 9,44% 21 159 68 Credit Suisse Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco WT 309 8,33% 20 84 68 Credit Suisse Amstel Gold Race WT 116 7,46% 20 62 68 Credit Suisse Il Lombardia MON 34 1,55% 22 -89 70 Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor Copenhagen - Malmö ITT CT.2 134 18,59% 15 96 70 Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor Post Danmark Rundt CT.2 189 10,11% 17 52 70 Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor GP Luxembourg CT.1 56 6,19% 15 -5 70 Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor Virginia Chrono Tour WT 83 2,82% 23 -37 70 Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor Tour des Fjords CT.1 80 3,75% 19 -22 75 Bosch Cycling Team Le Géant de Provence CT.2 165 22,88% 15 110 75 Bosch Cycling Team Tour of Vancouver CT.1 424 16,76% 15 109 75 Bosch Cycling Team Tour de Suisse CT.1 397 14,25% 24 137 75 Bosch Cycling Team La Jurassaine CT.1 116 12,82% 18 102 75 Bosch Cycling Team USA Pro Cycling Challenge CT.1 261 10,40% 22 101 80 Equinor Pro Cycling Team RideLondon–Surrey Classic CT.2 141 19,56% 24 120 80 Equinor Pro Cycling Team Baltic Chain Tour CT.1 272 12,07% 21 110 80 Equinor Pro Cycling Team Circulo de Juarez CT.2 111 6,25% 19 14 80 Equinor Pro Cycling Team Tour des Fjords CT.1 139 6,52% 19 21 80 Equinor Pro Cycling Team Clasica di Tirreno - Adriatico CT.1 19 2,10% 24 -37 81 Shell Pro Cycling Giro del Trentino CT.1 266 11,84% 24 122 81 Shell Pro Cycling USA Pro Cycling Challenge CT.1 229 9,12% 22 90 81 Shell Pro Cycling Paris - Nice CT.1 166 6,26% 16 0 81 Shell Pro Cycling Tour de France TDF 590 4,31% 21 -14 81 Shell Pro Cycling Amgen Tour of California CT.2 55 2,65% 23 -23 82 Team BP University of Lincoln GP WT 270 17,35% 21 199 82 Team BP Milano - Sanremo MON 310 14,14% 24 245 82 Team BP Grand Prix of Sochi WT 544 15,63% 18 169 82 Team BP Vuelta a Guatemala WT 533 14,37% 22 184 82 Team BP Paris - Tours WT 175 11,25% 21 145 85 KBC Godiva Il Lombardia MON 440 20,07% 22 270 85 KBC Godiva Tour de France TDF 2090 15,26% 21 264 85 KBC Godiva Palm Classic WT 243 15,62% 23 197 85 KBC Godiva Giro d'Italia GT 1371 11,32% 24 210 85 KBC Godiva Ster ZLM Tour WT 65 1,86% 22 -62 86 Brugse Zot - Trek Rheden GP CT.2 199 27,60% 18 120 86 Brugse Zot - Trek VDK-Driedaagse De Panne CT.2 351 23,45% 20 120 86 Brugse Zot - Trek Cigar City Classic CT.2 135 18,72% 21 119 86 Brugse Zot - Trek National Capital Tour CT.2 139 8,36% 17 30 86 Brugse Zot - Trek Copenhagen - Malmö ITT CT.2 34 4,72% 15 -18 87 Millenium - LATAM Airlines Copenhagen - Malmö ITT CT.2 92 12,76% 15 66 87 Millenium - LATAM Airlines Le Géant de Provence CT.2 68 9,43% 15 30 87 Millenium - LATAM Airlines Critérium International CT.2 97 6,15% 19 12 87 Millenium - LATAM Airlines Int. Österreich-Rundfahrt CT.1 153 6,38% 21 31 87 Millenium - LATAM Airlines Giro del Trentino CT.1 91 4,05% 24 -2 88 Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm Tour of South Africa CT.2 277 11,69% 20 82 88 Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm Volta a Portugal CT.2 270 11,40% 21 84 88 Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm Tour d'Andorra CT.2 212 11,94% 16 66 88 Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm Le Géant de Provence CT.2 60 8,32% 15 18 88 Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm Qinghai Lake Cycle Cup CT.2 22 3,05% 16 -31 89 Tierra del Fuego Colombia Team GP CT.1 175 19,55% 15 125 89 Tierra del Fuego Tour do Rio CT.2 93 12,90% 20 89 89 Tierra del Fuego Vuelta a Colombia CT.2 166 7,04% 21 34 89 Tierra del Fuego Tour de San Luis CT.2 58 2,94% 21 -23 89 Tierra del Fuego Gran Premio San José CT.1 17 1,88% 21 -45 90 Magnum - Madshus Circuit des Ardennes CT.2 303 18,12% 21 117 90 Magnum - Madshus Paris - Nice CT.1 329 12,40% 16 89 90 Magnum - Madshus Giro del Trentino CT.1 174 7,75% 24 77 90 Magnum - Madshus Wallonië Prijs CT.1 43 4,75% 18 -11 90 Magnum - Madshus Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec CT.2 15 2,08% 24 -30 91 Guinness Cycling p/b BlackBerry Clasica Iberica CT.2 92 12,76% 16 73 91 Guinness Cycling p/b BlackBerry 4 Jours de Dunkerque CT.2 215 12,11% 21 88 91 Guinness Cycling p/b BlackBerry Giro dell'Emilia CT.1 70 7,73% 17 28 91 Guinness Cycling p/b BlackBerry Rheinland-Pfalz Rundfahrt CT.2 125 7,04% 23 45 91 Guinness Cycling p/b BlackBerry Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal CT.2 12 1,66% 24 -36 92 VIP Mobile E3 Prijs Vlaanderen - Harelbeke WT 160 10,28% 21 134 92 VIP Mobile 4 Jours de Dunkerque CT.2 121 6,81% 21 31 92 VIP Mobile Paris - Roubaix MON 104 4,74% 19 -13 92 VIP Mobile Ronde van Vlaanderen MON 76 3,47% 21 -37 92 VIP Mobile Dwars door Vlaanderen CT.1 22 2,43% 19 -40 93 Trans Cycling Team VDK-Driedaagse De Panne CT.2 381 25,45% 20 120 93 Trans Cycling Team Wallonië Prijs CT.1 134 14,81% 18 115 93 Trans Cycling Team Tour des Fjords CT.1 571 26,77% 19 150 93 Trans Cycling Team Istrian Spring Trophy CT.1 208 9,81% 20 87 93 Trans Cycling Team Aleko Vitoša CT.2 64 8,88% 19 49 94 Education First x Palace - Nippo Vuelta a Colombia CT.2 233 9,88% 21 74 94 Education First x Palace - Nippo Qinghai Lake Cycle Cup CT.2 66 9,15% 16 33 94 Education First x Palace - Nippo Colombia Team GP CT.1 75 8,38% 15 23 94 Education First x Palace - Nippo USA Pro Cycling Challenge CT.1 19 0,76% 22 -63 94 Education First x Palace - Nippo Giro del Trentino CT.1 0 0,00% 24 -75 95 Cadejo - Bike Xpress Tour de San Luis CT.2 177 8,96% 21 63 95 Cadejo - Bike Xpress Circulo de Juarez CT.2 10 0,56% 19 -54 95 Cadejo - Bike Xpress Vuelta a Guatemala WT 99 2,67% 22 -43 95 Cadejo - Bike Xpress Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec CT.2 1 0,14% 24 -58 95 Cadejo - Bike Xpress Gran Premio San José CT.1 0 0,00% 21 -75
Ulrich Ulriksen
Posted on 10-12-2021 01:44
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Thanks for posting that, glad I could help find the error without actually doing anything.
Kittel's fall in Ster ZLM prevented across the board success but things went pretty well in general.
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Ripley
Posted on 10-12-2021 08:32
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We really came out top, never scoring the maximum points but all five focus races went very well. I better spend some money on training, because chances are we won't do quite as well again and will have a lower budget next season.
Croatia14
Posted on 10-12-2021 10:11
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I forgot the catastrophy that was Istrian Spring Trophy and did cost us quite a lot at the end.
jandal7
Posted on 10-12-2021 10:33
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Phew not negative didn't expect that honestly
24/ 02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don' t drink famous people."
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krisa
Posted on 10-12-2021 18:22
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Aru Crashing in TDF Costs us probably 250 that's an awfull lot
Ripley
Posted on 11-12-2021 09:15
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Focus Races explained!
I took a closer look at our focus race performances to figure out how exactly they work and confirmed what I had estimated before. Look at the following chart:
Those are all (but four) of the CT.2 focus race performances – with the percentages normalized to 20 teams per race. You can earn up to 120 in budget increase, or lose half that much if you don't score any points. With 20 teams participating in a race you will need to score 5% of the available points to break even and slightly less than 10% to score half the maximum budget increase. 15% will already get you to 5/6 (83%) and 20% will give you the full increase. Four teams managed to do it, all of them "overdid" it with 23.5% to 25.5%, so I left them off the chart.
The same goes for all other race categories, too, there's just more to be made or lost. Here's the same chart for the WT races:
With WT races you can earn up to 210 and lose up to -105. Again, a few results are cut off. Grupo Argos scored over 43% (normalized) of the total points in the Virginia Chrono Tour! In fact, they "only" scored 38% of the total points – if there are over 20 teams (23 in this case) the above percentages decrease and vice versa. Bosch's 23% of the points in Le Geant de Provence weren't enough for the full increase (110 out of 120) because only 15 teams raced.
It's easy enough to check the points table to see how well you need to do in one-day races, while stage races have many points in different classements to offer. There are nearly 13.700 points to be distributed during the Tour de France. The final GC result carries a lot less weight than the same result in a one-day race.
Here's how much you can make or lose in each category. I'm not sure about the TdF and the other two GTs, they only have a few data points, but it should be close enough:
Min Max TdF(?) -150 300 Mon/GT(?) -135 270 WT -105 210 CT.1 -75 150 CT.2 -60 120
AbhishekLFC
Posted on 11-12-2021 09:26
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Same
Fabianski
Posted on 11-12-2021 15:21
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Thanks a lot, great overview!
For us, Colombia Team GP obviously was the main reason for our budget increase. Betting on this race was quite some risk, but we already planned for this one during transfers - glad it paid off
Vuelta a Colombia on the other hand was horrible overall - at least that's what it felt like. Glad we were still above minimum.
Hills were definitely not our strong point, let's see if we can improve there. All in all, definitely happy about having more money available, given that some riders developed really well - and were asking for a significant raise therefore.
Ulrich Ulriksen
Posted on 11-12-2021 17:43
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Thanks for the analysis, will have to contemplate the implications for next season but on the whole it works as I thought it did with higher reward for doing well in bigger races.
I think I like my idea of counting 5 out of 6 to collapse difference a little on people who are unlucky with a fall. Or to make it less powerful maybe you can just drop your worst negative, seem like sponsors might forgive one failure. You are still losing budget you might have earned but at least you don't take a hit.
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Posted on 12-12-2021 09:45
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Thanks Ripley, very interesting to look at.
Counting 5 out of 6 results would be a fair manner if crashes remain a part of the game.
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Ripley
Posted on 12-12-2021 17:21
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I'll support this as well.
Ripley
Posted on 13-12-2021 15:45
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Majka and Sagan accepted our first offer! So did all the others riders we wanted to keep except for Tao Hart, he's a bit greedy.
Fabianski
Posted on 13-12-2021 20:43
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You'd have to think he's learnt his lesson from last year's renewals... Guess not, then
ivaneurope
Posted on 13-12-2021 20:48
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Dunno if I made the right call - I've kept most of the band together to maintain some continuity come the first season in the WT. Well, except for Kangert and Poels - infortuantely there had to be victims and given their age, perhaps was for the better to move on.
Ripley
Posted on 16-12-2021 14:44
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I was very close to not making Tao another offer and send him to the FA market again, instead I decided to offer just 10 more and call that my final offer - and he agreed!
Renewals are finished with round 2, and that second round was only for 2 riders (Tao and 20 yo Rodriguez) - no comparison to our previous renewals, which were exciting and heart breaking to the very end. We have 7 open spots on the roster and plenty of cash on hand.
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Posted on 16-12-2021 14:53
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Sorry for the delay. In the middle of final exams, but I should have some time to send my first offers today.
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krisa
Posted on 17-12-2021 08:46
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Ripley wrote:
I was very close to not making Tao another offer and send him to the FA market again, instead I decided to offer just 10 more and call that my final offer - and he agreed!
Renewals are finished with round 2, and that second round was only for 2 riders (Tao and 20 yo Rodriguez) - no comparison to our previous renewals, which were exciting and heart breaking to the very end. We have 7 open spots on the roster and plenty of cash on hand.
I only have one spot left and not so much cash
Ollfardh
Posted on 17-12-2021 09:16
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Is there a deadline yet for renewals? If it's ok, I'd like to do mine after christmas.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
Fabianski
Posted on 17-12-2021 09:31
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Ripley wrote:
I was very close to not making Tao another offer and send him to the FA market again
I guess most managers would have preferred the latter outcome
After renewals, we're one rider short of the minimum roster size, and I guess with about 400 to play around with we should find someone useful.
And I like the look of the CT DB pre-renewals, with Chamorro and Zabel having moved up to the extended top of the division. Downside, they both got greedy after their development
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