Circulo de Juarez Discussion
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Sykkel_Freak |
Posted on 18-12-2020 13:09
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Great way to bounce back after a poor first stage. Once again, Guarnieri left a gap to Perera, but it was a lot smaller than in Barbados, and also Perera was able to keep the lead-out going a lot closer to the line, so that helped massively.
Feel sorry for TMM though, that was basically a head-to-head dual and Ewan should honestly be winning that. It’s not new that the best sprinter performs poorly against weak competition - to some extent it was also the case on the old game, but with Ewan it’s been way worse than I’ve seen before.
Thanks for the congratulations!
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cio93 |
Posted on 18-12-2020 23:09
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This is very frustrating to watch, even as someone with no stakes in it.
No idea what made the mess start in Barbados and continue here to this extent.
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Sykkel_Freak |
Posted on 18-12-2020 23:12
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Is two good stages in a row too much to ask?
Congrats to Ivan!
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Marcovdw |
Posted on 18-12-2020 23:13
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If getting Hodeg in white was the end goal then we had 300 IQ strategy. Vesely still in a good position.
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Ollfardh |
Posted on 18-12-2020 23:31
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Why do I even bother to check these reports?
(answer: cause they are very well written!)
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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Fabianski |
Posted on 19-12-2020 00:53
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Great job by the team for once, less so by Reinhardt. Still, compared with many better sprinters (on paper), I definitely can't complain - and the few bonus seconds taken by Cissé are very welcome, too.
Of course, I was hoping to get the first win of the season when I saw the boys so present up front, but Cissé apparently launched a bit too early for Reinhardt's rather poor stamina. Still, 3 stages, 4x Top 10 is huge in this strong field!
Thanks for the report once again, and congrats to Ivan!
Btw, what happened to Stocker? Early puncture? He definitely shouldn't lose 15 minutes on that stage...
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redordead |
Posted on 19-12-2020 07:03
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8th, 5th and now 3rd, can Saber keep improving?
Probably not, but he's worked his way into a good GC position now. Just have to keep this level of consistency now for the final two stages.
"I am a cyclist, I may not be the best, but that is what I strive to be. I may never get there, but I will never quit trying." - Tadej Pogačar
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ivaneurope |
Posted on 19-12-2020 07:44
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The Kristoff purchase (along with Konig since both were a package deal) was worth it. However this isn't over yet - not by a long shot. There are 2 more stages left and now Kristoff has a big target on his back.
Congrats to SN for yet another high quality report.
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Nemolito |
Posted on 19-12-2020 09:02
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Wow, really happy with my "flat beasts" attacking so far. Great publicity and actually on their way to score some depth points both in the GC and the KoM-classification. I hope they still get the chance to be in the breakaway now they're around 15th in the GC.
Congratz to Ivan and thank you for the report SN
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 19-12-2020 09:37
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I also feel Sorry for TMM, but I think the results are kinda as expected. Using Nelson as a lead out is not very smart, especially if Ewan is the lead sprinter. Its a shame, but not surprising. On the other hand I love how Kristoff and Saver are doing well this race!
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quadsas |
Posted on 19-12-2020 11:51
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Still need a top 3 at least once to ensure a good GC placing, gonna require some luck but at least Guerao's been getting into the final sprints.
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 19-12-2020 13:32
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Croatia14 wrote:
I also feel Sorry for TMM, but I think the results are kinda as expected. Using Nelson as a lead out is not very smart, especially if Ewan is the lead sprinter. Its a shame, but not surprising. On the other hand I love how Kristoff and Saver are doing well this race!
I'd agree if we were actually making leadouts. But you saw in Stage 3 the whole team was absent. On Stage 2 Ricki lead out fine only to lose a 1v1 , and back to Stage 1 were weren't making a leadout again. Similar pattern back in Barbados, where Ricki was absent.
Lead out or no, Ricki or no, our sprinting is a complete dice roll. To the extent Ricki has our only stage win of the season. Whilst Ewan has podiumed with or without him. And we've seen Dekker and Steimle out do Kek and Aberasturi a few times.
Still, will be fun to see how it works in CT when we can't afford a leadout at all and we get a true test
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SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-12-2020 20:38
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Interesting to see a discussion on Nelson leading out Ewan, ahead of Stage 4...
Fabianski wrote:
Btw, what happened to Stocker? Early puncture? He definitely shouldn't lose 15 minutes on that stage...
Ah yes - he punctured while the breakaway attacks were still ongoing, so the peloton pace was too fast to make it back
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ivaneurope |
Posted on 19-12-2020 20:49
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Interesting to see a discussion on Nelson leading out Ewan, ahead of Stage 4...
Fabianski wrote:
Btw, what happened to Stocker? Early puncture? He definitely shouldn't lose 15 minutes on that stage...
Ah yes - he punctured while the breakaway attacks were still ongoing, so the peloton pace was too fast to make it back
This is...how you say it...foreshadowing.
EDIT: The curse of the yellow is in full swing - no one is safe
Edited by ivaneurope on 19-12-2020 20:56
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Ollfardh |
Posted on 19-12-2020 21:08
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27th.. I was wondering who would give up first, him or me.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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quadsas |
Posted on 19-12-2020 21:30
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Gee, gonna need another top 5 finish to actually go up a few places, what a crapshoot these sprint stage races have turned out to be
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ivaneurope |
Posted on 19-12-2020 21:32
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Here's how every stage winner (and by extension yellow jersey holder) has performed in the following stage:
Stage | Winner | Next stage finish | Stage 1 | Guardini | 16th | Stage 2 | Guarnieri | 8th | Stage 3 | Kristoff | 13th | Stage 4 | Ewan | ? |
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 19-12-2020 21:43
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ivaneurope wrote:
Here's how every stage winner (and by extension yellow jersey holder) has performed in the following stage:
Stage | Winner | Next stage finish | Stage 1 | Guardini | 16th | Stage 2 | Guarnieri | 8th | Stage 3 | Kristoff | 13th | Stage 4 | Ewan | ? |
Back in old PCM's getting the yellow jersey would basically make the AI prioritize you for everything. Now it almost does the opposite.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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Ollfardh |
Posted on 19-12-2020 21:51
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baseballlover312 wrote:
ivaneurope wrote:
Here's how every stage winner (and by extension yellow jersey holder) has performed in the following stage:
Stage | Winner | Next stage finish | Stage 1 | Guardini | 16th | Stage 2 | Guarnieri | 8th | Stage 3 | Kristoff | 13th | Stage 4 | Ewan | ? |
Back in old PCM's getting the yellow jersey would basically make the AI prioritize you for everything. Now it almost does the opposite.
That actually makes sense, cause we have a lot of yellow in our jersey.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 19-12-2020 21:57
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Ollfardh wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
ivaneurope wrote:
Here's how every stage winner (and by extension yellow jersey holder) has performed in the following stage:
Stage | Winner | Next stage finish | Stage 1 | Guardini | 16th | Stage 2 | Guarnieri | 8th | Stage 3 | Kristoff | 13th | Stage 4 | Ewan | ? |
Back in old PCM's getting the yellow jersey would basically make the AI prioritize you for everything. Now it almost does the opposite.
That actually makes sense, cause we have a lot of yellow in our jersey.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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