[PT] Aegon - Peroni
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Posted on 17-11-2020 14:34
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Just recently started, the first month of the season already over with the first 10 race days for the team. In the following review, we will check if our goals and expectations worked out or not.
Badaling International
Our goal was to improve from 4th in 2019 including some depth scoring...unfortunately we weren`t able to acchieve this despite still getting a bit of a result at least.
Sean De Bie might have become the best puncheur on paper, but his performance didn`t improve at all unfortunately in his season debut, so hopefully he can improve quickly in the following races.
In the end our leader acchieved 5th in the starter, not able to beat the ageing veterans Ponzi or Hagen and neither weaker puncheurs such as Koretzky.
Depth wise we clearly failed to improve from 2019 but at least new rider Loic Vliegen as 22nd did fairly well and showed that he might be the new elite support for his country man this year while Zardini 86th, Carboni 104th, Stuyven 123rd and others underperformed quite a lot depth wise.
1 | Simone Ponzi | Team UBS | 6h04'56 | 2 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Air France - KLM | s.t. | 3 | Clement Koretzky | Festina - OAKA | s.t. | 4 | Tomohiro Kinoshita | Rakuten Pro Cycling | s.t. | 5 | Sean De Bie | Aegon - Peroni | s.t. | ... | 22 | Loic Vliegen | Aegon - Peroni | + 1'37 | 86 | Edoardo Zardini | Aegon - Peroni | + 4'14 | 104 | Giovanni Carboni | Aegon - Peroni | s.t. | 106 | Thomas Dekker | Aegon - Peroni | s.t. | 123 | Jasper Stuyven | Aegon - Peroni | + 5'34 | 130 | Giulio Ciccone | Aegon - Peroni | s.t. | 164 | Ziga Rucigaj | Aegon - Peroni | s.t. |
Tour of Qatar
The Tour of Qatar was once again a successful Aegon stage race.
Not as superb as last year when Groenewegen came in 2nd in the GC but as 4th in 2020 he was almost as successful and actually only missed a tiny second to finish 2nd again!
4-12-4-16-2 his sprint finishes here which show the problem of consistency really as twice he missed out on bonus seconds. That said, if on a good day he is coming very close to win against highest competition. In especially day 5 was unfortunate as Groenewegen already celebrated his stage win, when Kennaugh passed him very late, so that he only came over the line 2nd! The missing bonus second for the GC podium?
Other than him not a lot to tell about our team as Frison as best time trialist came into a top50 GC, while Van der Hoorn and Boom only went for a breakaway appearance and Ballerini, Van Hooydonck and Bauhaus were needed to chase and support Groenewegen!
1 | Dan Holloway | EA Vesuvio | 15h43'07 | 2 | Salem Kemboi | Farfetch Pro Cycling | + 25 | 3 | Sam Bewley | Moser - Sygic | s.t. | 4 | Dylan Groenewegen | Aegon - Peroni | + 26 | 5 | Eduard Grosu | eBuddy | s.t. | ... | 48 | Frederik Frison | Aegon - Peroni | + 1'02 | 111 | Lars Boom | Aegon - Peroni | + 1'19 | 112 | Nathan Van Hooydonck | Aegon - Peroni | s.t. | 138 | Adam Toupalik | Aegon - Peroni | + 1'26 | 169 | Phil Bauhaus | Aegon - Peroni | + 1'46 | 177 | Taco van der Hoorn | Aegon - Peroni | + 2'10 | 182 | Davide Ballerini | Aegon - Peroni | + 4'03 |
Tour of East Java
We predicted, it would be hard to achieve the top10 here due to the high quality startlist, though wanted to try as Olivier used to perform well in the mountains, but more so on longer stage races and less on one day climbs.
And as expected, we failed this as well but the bigger surprise, it wasn`t Olivier, who came closest! The Dutch actually only finished 19th while it was Valls as new mountain co-leader to come into 15th on the climb, whcih resulted in 16th for the GC, unfortunately last of 5 riders within the same time!
Also Zardini in 37th showed an improvement from Badaling while Machado, Dekker, Rucigaj and Ciccone all are inside the top100 for depth!
The highlight though the 3rd from Groenewegen in the opener, which shows his great early form already.
1 | Taylor Phinney | Isostar - Specialized | 5h39'20 | 2 | Silvio Herklotz | Team Puma - SAP | + 2'05 | 3 | Justo Tenorio | Desigual | + 2'11 | 4 | Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier | Festina - OAKA | + 2'24 | 5 | Jan Hirt | Moser - Sygic | + 2'32 | ... | 16 | Rafael Valls | Aegon - Peroni | + 4'36 | 19 | Daan Olivier | Aegon - Peroni | + 4'48 | 37 | Edoardo Zardini | Aegon - Peroni | + 5'59 | 65 | Tiago Machado | Aegon - Peroni | + 7'27 | 72 | Thomas Dekker | Aegon - Peroni | + 7'34 | 94 | Ziga Rucigaj | Aegon - Peroni | + 9'51 | 97 | Giulio Ciccone | Aegon - Peroni | + 9'56 | 131 | Dylan Groenewegen | Aegon - Peroni | + 14'13 | ... | 3rd | Dylan Groenewegen | Stage 1 |
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Posted on 17-11-2020 17:07
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February is one of those months including all PT eligible race categories from PTHC over PT to GTM plus it`s very special as it sees the PT triple clash of Paris-Nice, Tirreno-Adriatico and Grand Duche Classic. GTM obviously is the sprinter/puncheur classic Milano San Remo while PTHC is Pro Hallstatt for us, a hybrid of mountain and hill classic. With other teams also going to Portugal PTHC, the rankings post February might see us with less race days used obviously as many others.
Last but not least the Copenhagen Malmo TTT for us.
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AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 18-11-2020 05:39
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Many points-scoring opportunities for the team this month as the calendar is heavily loaded. Looking forward to how the team goes in the triple clash especially. January was quite good, if not outstanding. Hopefully the form carries over into Feb
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Posted on 18-11-2020 07:14
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We're actually in 3 of those races. Copenhagen, Paris - Nice and Hallstatt. Not a threat in the former two, but I hope to score some points in the latter
Interesting to see no De Bie in San Remo given how Hagen did last year. Although Groenewegen is still a great option there.
Good luck
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roturn |
Posted on 18-11-2020 08:29
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I hope so too Abhishek. Let's hope Olivier having better legs while the others can deliver as well.
@redordead: I thought about it but both leaders likely wouldn't have worked and in worst case De Bie waiting for him. So I decided to go the sprinter way which worked well with him on PCM18 already.
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Posted on 18-11-2020 09:44
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roturn wrote:
Olivier starts his stage race campaign of 2020 in Paris-Nice and has big support behind him.
That's a nice way to forget a not so great result in East Java, just ignore it ever happened
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roturn |
Posted on 18-11-2020 09:47
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Nemolito wrote:
roturn wrote:
Olivier starts his stage race campaign of 2020 in Paris-Nice and has big support behind him.
That's a nice way to forget a not so great result in East Java, just ignore it ever happened
Tbh while being 2rd stage race, East Java more felt like a classic for him. Startlist wise as also recovery wise.
But obviously you are right. |
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Posted on 07-09-2021 15:22
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The Farewell
A nice list of huge riders for the team in this year`s farewell. Probably the biggest ever!
Lars Boom
Easily the biggest Rothaus/Aegon team rider of all time! Since the start of the team almost 10 years ago, Lars Boom was the captain from the smaller races to the biggest races on the calendar. He got some of our biggest wins in the team history and unforgettable the Geraardsbergen World Championship triumph or his hunt for the TONE overall win after plenty of podiums and close shots vs. long time rivals Sam Bewley or Fabian Cancellara there. And he eventually made it in the end just in time.
In 2021 though he really feels the age and despite trying to get a contract once more for another team, a follow-up sportif directeur contract is already sealed with him.
Thomas Dekker
Another Dutch veteran. He came to us basically post his prime and still he somewhat delivered huge results for us including the sensational Dauphine GC win, a stage win in the Tour de France and actually as well a late career top10s there in 2017 & 2018 as well.
Peter Velits
Velits kind of followed Dekker`s example becoming the 2nd GC guy for the team and he showed pure class at the age of 34 with a 10th in the Tour de France making it the 3rd consecutive season for us on that exact spot. Other than that he did lead Daan Olivier to success with all his experience.
Phil Bauhaus Tiago Machado
Bauhaus and Machado were main parts as helpers for Groenewegen/Olivier in the last season, when they basically were protecting them non-stop in almost every race.
2021 Pre Transfers Squad
The 3 leaders De Bie, Olivier, Groenewegen remain the same and are very likely to go into the 2021 season as our riders. Though you never know for sure, right?
Newly maxed riders van der Poel, Van Hooydonck and Carboni give the team the needed depth and finally also some more strength on the cobbles, something we hugely ignored in the past. Same here, unlikely to see them leave.
Valls is slowly ageing and is surely a rider to leave trying his late season luck on CT level and same might go for younger Ciccone, who could as well be of more value in the lower divisons while Zardini is a big part of De Bie`s support team but still not a defined rider to stay.
Same goes for the other hill squad around Vliegen or Stuyven, who get some pressure from younger riders with some strong late sprint then in de Kleijn or Ballerini.
van der Hoorn really stepped up last year as consistent rider on the cobbles and he surely is going to show that skills again, this time though with a better leader to support.
Koep just like Boom was here since the beginning and when counting the one year on loan out, he now is reaching the same numbers of season in Aegon colours next season as Boom, while Frison and Vanhoucke complete the roster.
Sean De Bie | 73 | 71 | 84 | 72 | 77 | 76 | 69 | 68 | 72 | 75 | 74 | 65 | 68 | Unlikely | Daan Olivier | 72 | 81 | 76 | 69 | 76 | 80 | 77 | 59 | 64 | 71 | 70 | 71 | 69 | No | Dylan Groenewegen | 73 | 61 | 67 | 64 | 74 | 71 | 85 | 59 | 82 | 81 | 59 | 64 | 72 | No | Mathieu van der Poel | 73 | 70 | 76 | 69 | 78 | 77 | 74 | 72 | 72 | 77 | 77 | 79 | 73 | Unlikely | Nathan Van Hooydonck | 73 | 63 | 71 | 72 | 75 | 74 | 69 | 80 | 61 | 72 | 64 | 67 | 72 | No | Giovanni Carboni | 70 | 78 | 76 | 69 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 62 | 66 | 69 | 61 | 72 | 69 | No | Rafael Valls | 67 | 77 | 73 | 70 | 75 | 74 | 73 | 54 | 60 | 69 | 67 | 64 | 70 | Yes | Giulio Ciccone | 67 | 77 | 73 | 71 | 70 | 70 | 73 | 50 | 51 | 69 | 59 | 59 | 79 | Maybe | Edoardo Zardini | 69 | 76 | 77 | 67 | 70 | 66 | 66 | 68 | 72 | 68 | 72 | 74 | 72 | Maybe | Loic Vliegen | 71 | 67 | 77 | 61 | 76 | 70 | 70 | 68 | 66 | 74 | 71 | 69 | 67 | Unlikely | Arvid de Kleijn | 70 | 61 | 75 | 60 | 71 | 71 | 76 | 66 | 74 | 75 | 64 | 64 | 67 | Maybe | Taco van der Hoorn | 75 | 60 | 70 | 55 | 76 | 69 | 60 | 75 | 56 | 66 | 84 | 66 | 52 | No | Davide Ballerini | 73 | 64 | 71 | 57 | 73 | 71 | 72 | 71 | 74 | 80 | 74 | 72 | 57 | Unlikely | Thomas Koep | 68 | 75 | 73 | 72 | 74 | 75 | 75 | 53 | 52 | 57 | 54 | 65 | 72 | No | Jasper Stuyven | 70 | 63 | 77 | 58 | 75 | 67 | 68 | 62 | 66 | 74 | 79 | 69 | 58 | Yes | Frederik Frison | 71 | 56 | 67 | 77 | 73 | 71 | 67 | 54 | 65 | 65 | 63 | 67 | 77 | Unlikely | Harm Vanhoucke | 69 | 72 | 68 | 69 | 68 | 70 | 72 | 63 | 67 | 66 | 69 | 69 | 70 | No |
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Posted on 07-09-2021 17:13
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I may be interested in some riders, but timeline wise there is a doubt over the fit in my team
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Posted on 07-09-2021 17:44
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Lars Boom. What a legend! |
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Posted on 07-09-2021 18:32
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Some interesting riders available there... Maybe we can have a chat in transfers
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Posted on 07-09-2021 20:10
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Boom leaving is a huge event. He was such a great rider and an Aegon legend for sure.
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Posted on 09-09-2021 12:33
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Seeing “no” and “unlikely” haven’t stopped us before, so why should it now?
I’ll definitely hope we can have talks when the transfer season starts, and maybe find common ground regarding a couple of riders |
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Posted on 13-09-2021 12:25
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Transfer Update - 4 riders in 4 riders out
Transfers In
| | FL | MO | HI | TT | ST | RS | RC | CB | SP | AC | FG | DH | PR | | Rick Zabel | 74 | 60 | 69 | 55 | 74 | 70 | 79 | 65 | 81 | 79 | 66 | 52 | 55 | | Jesse Sergent | 78 | 64 | 68 | 79 | 67 | 72 | 69 | 52 | 60 | 50 | 69 | 58 | 79 | | Enrico Barbin | 69 | 68 | 78 | 63 | 75 | 73 | 70 | 57 | 71 | 76 | 65 | 67 | 63 | | Bilguunjargal Erdenebat | 73 | 60 | 64 | 76 | 76 | 76 | 72 | 51 | 59 | 64 | 68 | 68 | 77 |
Our biggest signing so far is Rick Zabel. Pretty unexpected, as usual, our plans changed and we are back to 2 sprinters going into the season (for now) making it a lot more fun to plan the season. The German sprinter might only be our no.2 but should be able to show up here and there.
Jesse Sergent not really suiting our regional focus on just 4 Nations but as every year, 2-3 riders for elsewhere are with us (no loans). After having decent time trialists in the past, last year was one of the worst TT seasons for us and all his experience will help to improve in that area.
Barbin was on our long list for quite some years already but never really made it any close to sign with us. This year, we decided to do some long shots for 50k and the Italian puncheur accepted. To be honest, he is coming out of an awful year on CT level for him, but his tasks with us are mainly domestique work for De Bie. Something he clearly should be capable of.
Last but not least our first (early) loan signing this season. Just like Sergent, Erdenebat improves our TT squad by a bit and will be there for the TTTs mainly before going back to his actual team a lot stronger.
Transfers Out
| | FL | MO | HI | TT | ST | RS | RC | CB | SP | AC | FG | DH | PR | | Mathieu van der Poel | 73 | 70 | 76 | 69 | 78 | 77 | 74 | 72 | 72 | 77 | 77 | 79 | 73 | | Rafael Valls | 67 | 77 | 73 | 70 | 75 | 74 | 73 | 54 | 60 | 69 | 67 | 64 | 70 | | Jasper Stuyven | 70 | 63 | 77 | 58 | 75 | 67 | 68 | 62 | 66 | 74 | 79 | 69 | 58 | | Davide Ballerini | 73 | 64 | 71 | 57 | 73 | 71 | 72 | 71 | 74 | 80 | 74 | 72 | 57 |
As ember said, an unlikely never really stops me from doing trades. And so it`s not surprising that 2/4 riders only were a clear yes with the other two being unlikely deals and then they were quickly sold.
van der Poel is a really interesting rider and with 2 Giro stage wins last year, he already showed skills unmaxed. Still quite early we decided to let him go as there is one problem with him. He would need training to really stand out in one of his main stats as it`s the brilliant balance and allround skills that makes him special. And there was no really realistic plans on saving as much money on him as he likely deserves.
Valls joined him in the deal to Mapei. The Spaniard had a few good days for us last year but now became older and not really was needed anymore. He will look for late career glory elsewhere.
Stuyven joined us last year for a minimum contract and was part of the De Bie supporting squad. He easily is replaced by Barbin this year and is going down a division for a bit more freedom.
Ballerini as next wasn`t planned before. But just like vdP he misses the real top main stat being a decent allrounder. His strength likely is in the lower divisions, which is why we accepted a deal for him.
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Posted on 13-09-2021 12:34
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Can't wait to see Erdenebat in the PT especially teaming up with Sergent Could be an incredible sight to see!!!
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Posted on 14-09-2021 22:32
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Pleasure doing business with you and hope Sergent can do the business in the NZL jersey in the PT
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Posted on 21-09-2021 08:08
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@jakstar: He should have a decent schedule. Rarely doing such early loans but as TT rider and my previous team, it suited well. Until then I had no idea, I actually grab another 3 very good time trialists, so that the TTT squad is now looking very solid with him as top5 there.
@hoyle: Something I haven`t realized till you said it. But as I have seen your jersey for him already, looking forward to it really.
Following the first four riders joining our team, couple more have done so since.
Biggest names clearly are riders that will help us immediately and might have some freedom here and there themselves.
Those are Michal Schlegel as very young but already strong prospect. He might not be from our main 4 Nations, but actually the Czech riders in our team have a long history from the very first season already including riders such as Vesely, Novak, Turek...
Gianni Vermeersch is another rider that joins. He kind of replaces the Van der Poel leaving by being a great domestique on several terrains and might even show himself here and there.
Michael Hepburn and Nico Denz joined in a deal and will strengthen our depth. First might be our best time trialist alongside Sergent forming a Oceanic duo there. Later was impressive in last years Tour of America as luxury domestique and we hope he can show this again as one of the big domestiques in 2021.
Welcome backLucas Schädlich, a former Aegon rider already. He might have declined a bit but as TTT rider, he should still give the squad a nice boost.
From FA we got 2 more Belgiums. Veteran Kevin Eeckhout and still not maxed Ludoivic Robeet were signed as domestiques for the cobbles and this makes it 4 very solid riders on that terrain helping Van Hooydonck in his aimed races, which is something, we never had before.
Last but not least a young Italian sprinter joined us on loan from Philips in Riccardo Minali. He kind of replaces a new and already outgoing sprinter, though expectations aren`t the highest that he is going to perform on the highest level yet.
More riders than the recent four left the team.
Biggest name easily Rick Zabel. Yes, Zabel wasn`t part of the team for very long and not even sure it was smart to let him go again, but in the end a good swap deal was possible giving us a lot more depth and support elsewhere.
Following Stuyven also last years top domestique Loic Vliegen is leaving. Though the replacements Barbin, Schlegel and Denz still giving us enough depth there.
Future Great - yes, there is a young rider as well in my team now
The team slowly is ageing with only another level 3 rider in Vanhoucke and the team used to avoid talents in more recent years not going for the very young level 1 riders and neither a lot for level 2 riders. Even the last row of better talents around Van Hooydonck and Van der Poel was maxed by now and the team leaders are or closing to the 30 year line already.
Time for a young prospect and with a Belgium star in the making, the team decided to spend the money, that weren`t used last year at all on one talent, which leads to the team again not spending all money on riders performing in 2021 for us.
Mauri Vansevenant though definitely is worth it. He can aim in several directions but most likely he is able to replace Sean De Bie at one point becoming the teams top puncheur. As PT teams though can`t really give young talents the needed experience, he is becoming a Minion for a year. A special chef though is watching him to avoid he is getting a weight boost by being given too many bananas once there.
| Sean De Bie | 73 | 71 | 84 | 72 | 77 | 76 | 69 | 68 | 72 | 75 | 74 | 65 | 68 | | 4.100 | 30 | | Daan Olivier | 72 | 81 | 76 | 69 | 76 | 80 | 77 | 59 | 64 | 71 | 70 | 71 | 69 | | 4.100 | 29 | | Dylan Groenewegen | 73 | 61 | 67 | 64 | 74 | 71 | 85 | 59 | 82 | 81 | 59 | 64 | 72 | | 4.100 | 28 | | Nathan Van Hooydonck | 73 | 63 | 71 | 72 | 75 | 74 | 69 | 80 | 61 | 72 | 64 | 67 | 72 | | 4.100 | 26 | | Giovanni Carboni | 70 | 78 | 76 | 69 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 62 | 66 | 69 | 61 | 72 | 69 | | 4.100 | 26 | | Michal Schlegel | 69 | 76 | 77 | 65 | 71 | 74 | 76 | 55 | 64 | 75 | 73 | 66 | 64 | | 4.100 | 26 | | Enrico Barbin | 69 | 68 | 78 | 63 | 75 | 73 | 70 | 57 | 71 | 76 | 65 | 67 | 63 | | 4.100 | 31 | | Jesse Sergent | 78 | 64 | 68 | 79 | 67 | 72 | 69 | 52 | 60 | 50 | 69 | 58 | 79 | | 4.100 | 33 | | Gianni Vermeersch | 77 | 63 | 70 | 61 | 74 | 78 | 66 | 75 | 74 | 72 | 60 | 78 | 63 | | 4.100 | 29 | | Michael Hepburn | 71 | 64 | 66 | 79 | 74 | 77 | 72 | 60 | 66 | 69 | 67 | 62 | 79 | | 4.100 | 30 | | Giulio Ciccone | 67 | 77 | 73 | 71 | 70 | 70 | 73 | 50 | 51 | 69 | 59 | 59 | 79 | | 4.100 | 27 | | Edoardo Zardini | 69 | 76 | 77 | 67 | 70 | 66 | 66 | 68 | 72 | 68 | 72 | 74 | 72 | | 4.100 | 32 | | Nico Denz | 71 | 74 | 76 | 67 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 65 | 63 | 73 | 71 | 65 | 71 | | 4.100 | 27 | | Arvid de Kleijn | 70 | 61 | 75 | 60 | 71 | 71 | 76 | 66 | 74 | 75 | 64 | 64 | 67 | | 4.100 | 27 | | Taco van der Hoorn | 75 | 60 | 70 | 55 | 76 | 69 | 60 | 75 | 56 | 66 | 84 | 66 | 52 | | 4.100 | 28 | | Thomas Koep | 68 | 75 | 73 | 72 | 74 | 75 | 75 | 53 | 52 | 57 | 54 | 65 | 72 | | 4.100 | 31 | | Lucas Schädlich | 69 | 53 | 63 | 79 | 68 | 69 | 71 | 61 | 69 | 74 | 63 | 66 | 79 | | 4.100 | 33 | | Riccardo Minali | 71 | 52 | 58 | 57 | 70 | 73 | 78 | 59 | 77 | 77 | 62 | 74 | 68 | | 4.0 | 26 | | Bilguunjargal Erdenebat | 73 | 60 | 64 | 76 | 76 | 76 | 72 | 51 | 59 | 64 | 68 | 68 | 77 | | 4.0 | 24 | | Ludovic Robeet | 74 | 60 | 66 | 60 | 71 | 74 | 64 | 73 | 66 | 68 | 75 | 68 | 66 | | 4.55 | 27 | | Frederik Frison | 71 | 56 | 67 | 77 | 73 | 71 | 67 | 54 | 65 | 65 | 63 | 67 | 77 | | 4.100 | 29 | | Kevin Eeckhout | 72 | 55 | 61 | 54 | 71 | 71 | 61 | 77 | 64 | 57 | 68 | 74 | 54 | | 4.100 | 32 | | Harm Vanhoucke | 69 | 72 | 68 | 69 | 68 | 70 | 72 | 63 | 67 | 66 | 69 | 69 | 70 | | 3.8 | 24 | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Mauri Vansevenant | 72 | 67 | 71 | 68 | 74 | 73 | 65 | 62 | 69 | 73 | 72 | 68 | 70 | | 1.0 | 22 |
The full team likely has improved from last year, alone by having a good cobbler in our rows with the newly maxed Van Hooydonck plus his new support team, which no longer is just Van der Hoorn, who though was fantastic in 2020.
Other than that the top3 team leaders remain the same, De Bie and Groenewegen surely can improve from their 2020 season, while Olivier hopefully can be as strong as last year or at least remain very consistent.
Then Carboni maxed out as well giving us a decent 2nd option alongside our hybrids Zardini and Schlegel with Ciccone having just a few races himself and mainly acts as domestique.
Most important though is the improvement of our TTT squad. Instead of a Frison one-man-show (which fair enough worked out with the Belgium TT NC) he now is just the middle of our TT squad having 3 strong riders added to the squad plus Erdenebat as loanie.
23 riders for 2021. Good depth for all races. 79+ in all terrains, 80+ for all but TTs. Let`s improve from last year, hopefully no relegation danger till the end. |
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Posted on 21-09-2021 09:09
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Van Hooydonck looks very nice maxed, the TT depth is very good and you still have reliable riders like Olivier and Groenewegen. Who knows maybe even De Bie enjoys the weaker puncheur field and has a great season
No way you are fighting relegation this season!!
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Posted on 21-09-2021 09:36
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As you already know I love Van Hooydonck. Really looking forward to seeing how this improved roster does this year. Highly doubt that you'll be in the relegation scrap but with moving to a new game there's always that uncertainty.
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Posted on 21-09-2021 09:58
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Think you've done a great job in pulling the team up from near relegation to a Top 10 contender at least I think. Being another Dutch team, I off course love the Olivier - Groenewegen duo! Van Hooydonck should be a big difference maker this time. Look forward to following your season
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