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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 13-09-2020 19:29
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Guess it has never been easier to finish in the Top15 of a GT 
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 13-09-2020 19:48
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The best two climbers today were WVA and Gesink which I think sums up today's stage in terms of excitement
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 13-09-2020 20:47
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Ok WVA dropped Bernal. We deserve a Jumbo-Visma doping hate thread now |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 13-09-2020 20:54
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I don't really get how Bernal being total crap is Jumbo's fault? Roglic gained 15 seconds on Enric Mas, if anything that's a bad performance from Roglic.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 13-09-2020 20:58
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Ollfardh wrote:
I don't really get how Bernal being total crap is Jumbo's fault? Roglic gained 15 seconds on Enric Mas, if anything that's a bad performance from Roglic.
I said it jokingly but WVA looking out there like Eddy fucking Merckx and Kuss could podium this race if he wanted to is concerning me... |
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 13-09-2020 21:44
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It appears that Roglič is clearly miffed by all the constant claims about his form being related to PED's and stuff. There are some chain of events that prove to some that their claims are "correct":
1. The Erzen connection - Roglič started in Adria Mobil, where Milan Eržen (part of the Operation Aderlass doping scandal) worked in at the time.
2. His age when he turned pro - Roglič enetered cycling at the age of 23, which is by some considered a bit late. In 2016 he became pro at the age of 26. There are riders, who established themselves before even turning 26.
3. You "can't trust" Jumbo-Visma - many journalist will point out Jumbo - Visma's doping past which goes back to their years as Rabobank.
Honestly, I find all these claims to be irrelevant - riders are repeatedly tested for doping and as far as Roglič is concerned, he never tested positive. So he's innocent til proven guilty. I think it's easy for journalists to point the finger at Rider X due to either being connected to personnel related to doping scandal or the team he rides for being shrouded in doping conspiracies/claims without backing it up with actual evidence.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 13-09-2020 21:54
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Yep, after months of Covid chaos shaking up the cycling season it's nice to see normality resumed with dominant doping talk and age old defence's 
May things never change, because they havn't in the last 100 years 
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-09-2020 22:00
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ivaneurope wrote:
Honestly, I find all these claims to be irrelevant - riders are repeatedly tested for doping and as far as Roglič is concerned, he never tested positive.
So what, the same could be applied to Armstrong for many years lol Pharma is way ahead of WADA
Please let's just focus on this boring race called Tour de France. No reason to try to clear the suspicions, neither side will change its mind. Let's just hope we get to see more action in the next few stages.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-09-2020 22:02
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Yep, after months of Covid chaos shaking up the cycling season it's nice to see normality resumed with dominant doping talk and age old defence's
May things never change, because they havn't in the last 100 years
If a rider would be on a program I guess this season is the one where he could go all in with testing capacities greatly diminished, would be interesting what the pros say to that e.g. David Millar.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 13-09-2020 22:48
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
I don't really get how Bernal being total crap is Jumbo's fault? Roglic gained 15 seconds on Enric Mas, if anything that's a bad performance from Roglic.
I said it jokingly but WVA looking out there like Eddy fucking Merckx and Kuss could podium this race if he wanted to is concerning me...
Well it wasn't really particularly aimed at you, but a few things to consider:
1) As I said, Bernal and Quintana are just weak, whatever their excuse is. They got beaten today by Harold Tejada, of whom I bet many have not heard before this Tour.
2) WVA is in top shape, simple as that.
3) It's easy to drop people if you know your race ends 5-10 km before theirs.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Supernutz |
Posted on 14-09-2020 01:27
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Any takers on Bernal 'doing a Landis' on either stage 17 or 18? |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 14-09-2020 10:42
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I doubt he will go down without a fight even now, but it's highly unlikely he'll be able to do that given how strong Jumbo look.
And then there's the matter that even though yesterday was a bad day for him, he hasn't looked especially good so far this Tour. In the stage where Pogacar made back some of the time he had lost in the wind, Bernal looked to be in trouble as Pogacar, Roglic and Quintana attacked.
So he'd have to find a fantastic form in the final week pretty much out of nowhere to pull that off.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 14-09-2020 10:49
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Ollfardh wrote:
1) As I said, Bernal and Quintana are just weak, whatever their excuse is. They got beaten today by Harold Tejada, of whom I bet many have not heard before this Tour.
I told you guys since his great performance at Algarve and then his Mont-Ventoux and Emilia outing where he crushed the field, Tejada is the real deal. 
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 14-09-2020 19:59
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After seeing how Thomas was riding Tirreano TT is fact now that Ineos did fucked up to leave him out at tour.
Being a team absolute and only leader from day 1 is different creature. Even stronger guys have failed to deliver.
But like before. Giro is better anyway..even with Thomas included  |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 15-09-2020 16:12
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TIME TO SHOW YOUR TTING LENNARD
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 15-09-2020 16:27
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Wattage Panzerfaust from Kämna |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 15-09-2020 16:36
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| quadsas |
Posted on 15-09-2020 16:37
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Bernal
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-09-2020 16:40
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Nothing like seeing Bernal get bested by Sam Bennett in the Alps.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 15-09-2020 16:42
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I'm thinking about the fact that Jumbo initially wanted to bring Kruijswijk to the Tour as well. That would've been sick. |
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