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ICL19 - Race Discussion
Ollfardh
Oh, a win!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
McRettin's assessment of KBC seeming more accurate than the other ones at this point. Might be time to check in with Willie. Henao crashing out of his only race doesn't help. Think we may have wasted a few too many race days pleasing the sponsors by entering Belgian races with daunting fields. Live and learn.
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Ripley
@Ollfardh: And what a team performance! 1st, 2nd, 8th, 11th, 13th, 18th and 31st.

@krisa: Sorry the start was so slow and Bardet in Trentino is quite a shocker. I don't think there's an easy way to look it up, only I posted my full race planning. You could download the startlists2019.xlsx and check every race individually.

@UU: Still early days.
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Shonak
Ronde posted https://www.youtu...Q7R4ini6f0 and first three stages of ZLM Tour.

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Top 20 is the most Liberty can hope for in such races so happy we have gotten it. Luckily it wasn't a bunch sprint for the win in the end, would have been a bit dull.

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"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
 
Croatia14
Thanks for the coverage! Good couple of races for us this time, Greg doing what was expected from him at the Ronde, Alaphilippe doing very well at the ZLM Tour with his first WT win I guess.
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Ripley
Thomas not quite as good as before, nice to see Valgren working hard. Looked a little boring going into the finale.

Ster as bad as predicted, Schorn so far 44th, 23rd and 31st, usually even beaten by Bertilsson. But we are stealing some points from the teams ranking at least and Cuming collected some KOM points.
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AbhishekLFC
Great start to the month mostly...

Dimas with a good ride to get a Top 10 in the RVV Espoirs.

Yates with a fine podium and the team with excellent depth points in Wallonie Prijs.

Complaining works again Grin Degenkolb rolling back the years (ok, that may be an exaggeration!) to get onto another Monument podium.

Ster ZLM Tour has been bad so far. GC is more or less gone now, so hoping for an odd good stage result from what's left.

You're going to hear more complaining, because that seems to work!
 
Marcovdw
Thanks for the results. Vanmarcke with a good result in RVV considering it had to come from a sprint in the end. Looking forward to Roubaix

Bouhanni rocking it in ZLM!
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Bikex
Wow Greipel Smile
Let's see if Kittel will find his sprinting legs in the last two stages.
The cobbles AI is really annoying in that regard that the riders will just sit up if they can't get away on their own. GVK seemed like the strongest so it's good that he won. Hope Ollfardh is happy now Wink

@krisa:
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Ollfardh
Back to happy mode! Van Keirsbulck seemed to be the strongest, so I'm glad he could get a gap in the end after many attempts. Thanks all Smile

Van Poppel still underperforming though.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
jandal7
I do like that PPRD look a lot Pfft
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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Yellow Jersey
Good result in RVV from Phinney keeping up that consistency, already pushing it in ZLM!
 
Bikex
Last two stages of Star ZLM Tour and first 4 of South Africa posted. All were done by Shonak.
 
Croatia14
Big result for our team with Alaphilippe in 5th. He starts to connect to World Class, can't wait to see him next year after even more development.

Also very happy to see Pedal Africa at the top of the standings in South Africa after Berhanes big win!
 
Ripley
Robbed! From 2nd to 10th in the teams classification on the final day. Well, we didn't deserve it anyway. Schorn 15th in the GC at least, thanks to one bonus second, and Cuming in the breakaway on the right stage, 3rd in the KOM rankings, can't complain. Congrats Demare!
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AbhishekLFC
Not a good race in Ster ZLM, GC wise but a good second place from Honigh on Stage 4.
 
Shonak
Pedal with a strong showing to make history in South Africa but Nerz and other contenders are strong and the race is very long. Was very happy with our lucky botd win in ZLM, mostly the reason why I invested in a squad of rouleurs capable of doing that stuff. Demare is a beast!
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Bikex
Ripley wrote:
Robbed! From 2nd to 10th in the teams classification on the final day.


PCM doesn't really give the correct team rankings when there are several teams on the same time, that's why in sprint races I usually do them manually for the last stage(only one that counts for rankings). That's why there are so many changes from stage 4 to 5.
 
jandal7
Really good start in South Africa and then downhill from there, Appo with a great win over Guardini then invisible in the defence of yellow, before Chaves starts awfully on S4 Sad Hope we turn around quickly
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] i.imgur.com/c85NSl6.png Xero Racing

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Marcovdw
Argh, why did you have to finish behind Demare, Nacer?
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