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| knockout |
Posted on 02-02-2020 02:11
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Bikex wrote:
However, assuming you are a townie, for both of them I struggle to see why they would choose lynching Marco over you. Wouldn't you be seen as the player that should be removed preferably by the mafia?
For hillis the answer is rather obvious to me: He already hammered Croatia and if he took a part in lynching another highly analytical player on back to back days he would have a very tough time surviving that.
I don't have a good answer for kandes at this time.
I am wondering why you are asking me this question right now. Either you are a townie and want me to consider that scenario more so I would get on the right path and maybe you think that I might be night-killed after I appear to be a more trusted townie right now and want my thoughts to stand after you turn out protown after being lynched. The other option is that you are trying to deceive me.
1) I thought you were one of those that i might convince to change your opinion on me
But at least equally important:
2) I genuinely wanted to hear your thoughts, hoping that you might be able to change my thoughts on some things that might be holes in my reads. There are few other players in a position like you in terms of being able to change my thoughts since I'm more susceptible to adapt thoughts of someone I consider town over someone I'm doubting a lot more while i might trust jaxika somewhat as a town member but i don't think he could convince me of other opinions as much (doesnt mean i wouldnt mind him posting more). So that my decision this round is the right one as well as knowing/hoping that my analysis would be used a lot in case i end up lynched today which means i want to leave the best possible trail myself.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 02-02-2020 04:06
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For the record, I'm not voting for hillis today. The only person I'm willing to switch to is quadsas.
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 02-02-2020 11:23
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df_Trek wrote:
About Quadsas stuff, if we get a misslynch today I don't think it's agood idea to solve it in the next day, because it can be that we are going to lynch another townie based on some readings that are not linked directly to the game, if we have to do that I prefer to solve it now.
I agree with that. Regarding the jdog vs. quadsas situation, I think we have to decide if we trust jdog to be town. If we do trust him, quadsas has to go before we get in a no-mislynch situation, in which the mafia can clearly hammer down jdog after quadsas' mandatory vote on that day and thus win the game. If hillis (or knockout or I or whoever else is under suspicion) is mafia, he will vote against town in a crucial no-mislynch situation anyway (though not necessarily in the first one if the town is on the right way, to not get discovered). So though it may seem weird, I think we can better afford to keep the players we strongly suspect to be mafia alive (knowing they won't try to benefit the town) than those we maybe think town, but won't help us in a crucial situation (like quadsas). If quadsas turns out mafia, even better.
What's to do if we don't trust jdog, I haven't made up my mind right now.
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For the record, I'm not voting for hillis today. The only person I'm willing to switch to is quadsas.
Regarding this, I think we will have to make a decision about jdog (and thus quadsas' fate) some time before the deadline, so anyone willing is able to change his vote.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 02-02-2020 13:06
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@knockout: This is the stage in the game were you are very good, and you have a way to twist words and actions to fit your agenda it seems like.
For hillis the answer is rather obvious to me: He already hammered Croatia and if he took a part in lynching another highly analytical player on back to back days he would have a very tough time surviving that.
So, Marco was a highly analytical player since you claim back to back hammering? And in what way did i hammer anything with croatia? The only player im "hammering" right now, is you, and that is becuase of my read on you. I claimed it yesterday that i had a strong feeling that either you or Marco was mafia. It turns out we shat the bed with Marco, which is awful for the town as we are now down to a crucial vote today. And i need to stick with my reads, and my reads tells me that you are mafia. Moreso then how i feel about others. I do have a feeling that the trio of mobsters between us is "knockout, kandes and df_trek/quadaas". I've made a conclusion on bikex and jseadog - that they are pro-town as that is how they appear to me. Although it would be brilliant if jseadog and quadaas is both mafia and this whole namecalling situation was just a strategy, that would be hilarious after the game if so.
It's also kind of interesting to watch inactive players call others inactive, and act like they have been driving discussion the entire game. Something to watch for me moving forward as to how kandes and df_trek navigate the rest of the day.
@bikex:
To be honest, I'm less convinced that you are mafia than I was yesterday. Your analytic posts you are putting out now are very helpful for the town, especially for people like me that do not want to dig through all the posts again. However this obviously could be part of your strategy to make yourself seem trustworthy again and deceive the town about the other players that are possibly aligned with you. And I don't doubt that you would be able to come up with these posts if you were not a townie.
Seeing he calls my actions scummy and that i was "hammering" Croatia and with my vote on him makes it "back-to-back". Don't fall in to the twists that knockout is creating right now. Please take the time to look back a bit on your own aswell. And don't take what he posts as good fish by the looks of it. All i can ask you, as i see you and jseadog as my strongest pro-town players, to do moving forward.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 02-02-2020 13:07
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@kandes:
Regarding this, I think we will have to make a decision about jdog (and thus quadsas' fate) some time before the deadline, so anyone willing is able to change his vote.
If i change i would lead the voting. So at this time, i can't change. Naturaly.
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| knockout |
Posted on 02-02-2020 13:19
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hillis91 wrote:
For hillis the answer is rather obvious to me: He already hammered Croatia and if he took a part in lynching another highly analytical player on back to back days he would have a very tough time surviving that.
So, Marco was a highly analytical player since you claim back to back hammering? And in what way did i hammer anything with croatia? The only player im "hammering" right now, is you, and that is becuase of my read on you.
Hammering = casting the final vote of the day (as in "hammering the nail in the coffin" . Which he did in #319
My point was that he didnt want to go back to back on analytical players and thus didnt want to vote for me instead of marco.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 02-02-2020 14:11
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a reflection about Quadsas:
we can try to lynch him to avoid the uncomfortable situation with the possibility of 4 votes against jseadog regardless new readings. but to have this situation needs that he is a townie. So, we can let him survive and try to find a mafia member between a lower number of players.
If he is mafia, anyway there won't be possible that 4-3 situation.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 02-02-2020 15:58
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I find it hilarious that you trust jseadog when literally all he did the whole game was push and eventually lynch all townies. I really have no idea why you even considered marco or knockout when he's been obvious evil the whole game
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| quadsas |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:08
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Even worse than his active part in putting townies up against another, I find it incredible that noone picked up on his responses to my attacks. and especially how meek his presence was following them compared to before. he is scared.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:10
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jseadog1 wrote:
For the record, I'm not voting for hillis today. The only person I'm willing to switch to is quadsas.
also dead giveaway whos the other mafia is
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| knockout |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:25
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quadsas wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
For the record, I'm not voting for hillis today. The only person I'm willing to switch to is quadsas.
also dead giveaway whos the other mafia is
So you are convinced that hillis is mafia too? Would you change your vote to him as there isnt a lot of support for a jdog lynch today?
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| quadsas |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:27
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knockout wrote:
quadsas wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
For the record, I'm not voting for hillis today. The only person I'm willing to switch to is quadsas.
also dead giveaway whos the other mafia is
So you are convinced that hillis is mafia too? Would you change your vote to him as there isnt a lot of support for a jdog lynch today?
Someone needs to count the votes. and jseadog is a much bigger problem than hillis is, but I would probably switch if necessary, gonna need to see the count and who voted for who
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:31
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Today is quite easy
Hillis -> Knockout
Jseadog -> Knockout
Quadsas -> Jseadog
Knockout -> Hillis
df_Trek -> Hiillis
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| quadsas |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:34
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well at the moment theres no reason to switch then, both outcomes favor town, either one block is mafia or the other.
also consider the fact that I tried to make it real easy for mafia to push jseadog, yet noone did until much later on and only towards me. I am not sure if were playing the same game anymore actually
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| knockout |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:36
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knockout wrote:
quadsas wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
For the record, I'm not voting for hillis today. The only person I'm willing to switch to is quadsas.
also dead giveaway whos the other mafia is
So you are convinced that hillis is mafia too? Would you change your vote to him as there isnt a lot of support for a jdog lynch today?
Id like to add that i dont believe that both of them are mafia together. The mafia rarely casts two votes on the same player that quickly to start the day.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:39
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quadsas wrote:
also consider the fact that I tried to make it real easy for mafia to push jseadog, yet noone did until much later on and only towards me. I am not sure if were playing the same game anymore actually
I think that pushing now when they have no certainty to be mixed between some townies, it's quite an own goal to jump on jseadog
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| quadsas |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:41
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knockout wrote:
knockout wrote:
quadsas wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
For the record, I'm not voting for hillis today. The only person I'm willing to switch to is quadsas.
also dead giveaway whos the other mafia is
So you are convinced that hillis is mafia too? Would you change your vote to him as there isnt a lot of support for a jdog lynch today?
Id like to add that i dont believe that both of them are mafia together. The mafia rarely casts two votes on the same player that quickly to start the day.
well, I do think its way more likely that theyre both are mafia compared to you and trek. I dont think mafia is gonna take any chances anymore, its in their best interest to form a block and one townie to make a mistake, cause thats all that takes. and right now at least 2 townies are voting for the wrong person
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:44
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quadsas wrote:
well, I do think its way more likely that theyre both are mafia compared to you and trek. I dont think mafia is gonna take any chances anymore, its in their best interest to form a block and one townie to make a mistake, cause thats all that takes. and right now at least 2 townies are voting for the wrong person
For the current day you can get a townie lynched but the day after they are likely with every other townie going to lynch them...I think it's a very bad strategy
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| quadsas |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:48
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df_Trek wrote:
quadsas wrote:
well, I do think its way more likely that theyre both are mafia compared to you and trek. I dont think mafia is gonna take any chances anymore, its in their best interest to form a block and one townie to make a mistake, cause thats all that takes. and right now at least 2 townies are voting for the wrong person
For the current day you can get a townie lynched but the day after they are likely with every other townie going to lynch them...I think it's a very bad strategy
So if lets say hillis or knockout gets lynched today, does that mean all people who voted them are mafia in your opinion?
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| knockout |
Posted on 02-02-2020 16:49
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I disagree quadsas. They still need two wrong townies to lynch someone and when spreading themselves around they make it harder to discover the rest of them if one gets found.
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