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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 27-01-2020 22:29
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I do play the game the same way? Literally everybody in this game has been saying that... I said I don't lie. That's the same style of game everytime.... im not sure where your logic is for randomly attacking me. For the record, do you not believe my claim a few pages back about being town?
Also, I just realized im still voting for knockout. Don't want to do that anymore as per my post above.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 27-01-2020 22:54
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I guessed at the beginnning of the day that was starting an 1vs1 lynch clash. Talking about how they are suspicious at my eyes, could seems not a bad idea, because I'm confident atm, that in the worst case we have a chance to hit a mafia member at 50%. Anyway I hope this won't be a day implemented on this (but I can also see that someone else started to divert the discussion). Now I want to take a look on what's new, and post a deeper analysis before going to sleep.
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Posted on 27-01-2020 23:58
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jseadog1 wrote:
I truly think that Croatia was the doctor now because I am wondering why ryant wasn't saved at night. Who else would the doctor save? Is it a good idea for the doc to reveal if alive? Are we that desperate?
unfortunately this can be a plausible scenario, it can also explain why Croatia didn't explicit his findings when knockout asked for them, maybe he didn't say was the doctor, hoping to have a chance to save himself during the night in case someone was enough brisk to save him in last minutes.
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Also re: doctor talks, remember, mafia has a strongman, and they could've used it last night
anyway this is also possible
kandesbunzler26 wrote:
2) What happened at night.
The nightkill on ryan was no risk (if taking the strongman) for he was agreed on pro-town. But there are two questions:
If there was no strongman involved, is the doctor dead (Croatia?) or did he save someone else. We won‘t know that until the doctor (if not Croatia) comes out (please don‘t do it yet!) or the end of the game.
But if there was the strongman involved, why use it on ryan? Sure he was pro-town, but was he that important? Or did the mafia use their possible last chance for the strongman to be of real use because they fear he could be lynched today (implying it would be someone strongly in danger like marco or knockout)? Again something we can‘t decide by now, but a point I would like your thoughts on as well.
Just in the case the doctor wasn't Croatia, and put a safe vote on Ryant, who is killed by the Strongman, I think it's a move that combines danger situation from the strongman plus a move that want to eliminate ryant for sure, and maybe not just because he is the confirmed townie. It would be easier to kill someone that was beside main activity of the day or with an uncertain read, and save the ability for later in the game.
Anyway to kill ryant was a good deal for mafia.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:00
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@hillis: Why you are still targetting me on what I said before? Maybe because I was the only one voting for you and motivating the reasons? There are many other players that pointed at you later on.
after you brought some fresh ideas with your longer post I stated that I feel you more pro-town than many others, seems you are totally ignoring my post #298.
anyway you always skipped my question to be clearer on your position in day 1, but I want to stop this discussion because seems really vain at this point.
I have to say that atm I feel me much more in danger by a night kill than a lynch during the day, and your try to put attention on me looks much more from a disoriented townie than a (pointless) mafia move.
About jseadog, looking at quadsas starting with him, I don't know Jseadog irl, and I don't know what a kind of man he is, but there're many tipe of lies, his declaration his a kind of one that if will be found a lie, I'll have some consideration not just as player but also as person. That's the reason why I believe he is townie.
Spoiler ok, likely I'll never meet him in my life, but I wouldn't be able to write something like that if I'm lying
I hope something like this will be banned from next games because I don't want to have question of a kind again.
Trekbmc inactivity: I hope now he will post something interesting, because at the state of facts, it's more usefull a replacement than one like him that left some unfinished stuff from day 1 and then disappeard.
I feel also Jaxika in very confortable position with minimal effort, we need more by him imo to maintain that privilege.
Following my #263 post now BBL should be my natural vote for today, but at the moment he doesn't deserve it, rather I won't likely vote for him today if not is going to happen something that overturn the situation. About him I just want to see who is going to vote and the alignement of who is going to be lynched.
I'm still not convinced by knockout and the panic around last minutes of day 2. Save Croatia should have been the instinctive move.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:07
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df_Trek wrote:
@hillis: Why you are still targetting me on what I said before? Maybe because I was the only one voting for you and motivating the reasons? There are many other players that pointed at you later on.
after you brought some fresh ideas with your longer post I stated that I feel you more pro-town than many others, seems you are totally ignoring my post #298.
anyway you always skipped my question to be clearer on your position in day 1, but I want to stop this discussion because seems really vain at this point.
I have to say that atm I feel me much more in danger by a night kill than a lynch during the day, and your try to put attention on me looks much more from a disoriented townie than a (pointless) mafia move.
About jseadog, looking at quadsas starting with him, I don't know Jseadog irl, and I don't know what a kind of man he is, but there're many tipe of lies, his declaration his a kind of one that if will be found a lie, I'll have some consideration not just as player but also as person. That's the reason why I believe he is townie.
Spoiler ok, likely I'll never meet him in my life, but I wouldn't be able to write something like that if I'm lying
I hope something like this will be banned from next games because I don't want to have question of a kind again.
Trekbmc inactivity: I hope now he will post something interesting, because at the state of facts, it's more usefull a replacement than one like him that left some unfinished stuff from day 1 and then disappeard.
I feel also Jaxika in very confortable position with minimal effort, we need more by him imo to maintain that privilege.
Following my #263 post now BBL should be my natural vote for today, but at the moment he doesn't deserve it, rather I won't likely vote for him today if not is going to happen something that overturn the situation. About him I just want to see who is going to vote and the alignement of who is going to be lynched.
I'm still not convinced by knockout and the panic around last minutes of day 2. Save Croatia should have been the instinctive move.
that's enough to get him DQed. if that's the consensus amongst people then he should not be in this game anymore. I don't want to waste my time playing with morons who try to ruin the integrity of the game. if you use anything outside the game to gain advantage in the game you should be gone. we have a replacement, just stick him in. can't be arsed
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:09
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forgot to add, it's not different than talking in PMs. same thing. if that's grounds for DQing then whatever he did should be as well
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:10
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It will be a DQ starting next game. As said at the time though, he didn't break a rule I had in place and it isn't a DQ now.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:13
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jandal7 wrote:
It will be a DQ starting next game. As said at the time though, he didn't break a rule I had in place and it isn't a DQ now.
Then replace me with a guy you have. I have no intention in playing a game that was influenced by outside forces.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:17
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I cannot believe that you guys let the lynch on Croatia happen.
There was some behavior that hardly can be explained to be coming from a townie. At least three people would've been able to save Croatia.
knockout obviously is the prime suspect and I'm not sure if he can do anything to convince me that he is not deserving of my lynch vote. In the end you can write as much as you want, what counts are your actions and they look really bad.
You say yourself, that we can afford a mislynch, so the chance of saving a power role would definitely have been worth it.
I am much more suspect of kandesbunzler now. He looked really good to me in the beginning, when he tried to steer the conversation away from a for him pointless discussion, but I am not so sure anymore. He says he saw what happened so definitely could have intervened. But even if we ignore what happened at the very end of the day, not putting up a lynch vote at the end is at least a little bit strange in my eyes.
You knew that you could decide with your vote who would be lynched between Croatia and Marco. Not doing anything could be sign that you were happy with Croatia being lynched (already when not knowing about his power role), but didn't want to show it by putting up a vote yourself.
Marco is still a suspect but him not retracting his vote is totally understandable from a townie perspective, which doesn't mean he is not mafia. I guess so many votes on Croatia could be a sign that the mafia wanted to protect him, but I'm not sure if they would necessarily risk outing themselves that way. After Croatia being confirmed a townie the focus would be on the ones who voted for him anyways.
ryant was an obvious choice to kill for the mafia with his confirmed alignment. Maybe the strongman was used. I like kandesbunzlers point about it possible being the mafia's last chance to use him, which would mean we are on the right track! It's definitely a possibility even though probably not very likely.
Even though it's quite clear why the mafia wanted to remove ryant hillis was quick to declare it a frame job against him. Why so defensive?
Jseadog is most likely pro town in my opinion. I think he's honest when he says he doesn't lie. I also remember him saying something like that in a previous game we both played.
Of the guys voting for Croatia, excluding jseadog, I assume bbl is the least suspicious to me, even though he started it. I'm not saying he is pro town but I am not sure if a mafia member would put himself into the focus so much at this stage of the game.
@jseadog: What in knockout's post convinced you of his innocence? Just it being long and detailed? He obviously spent much time on it and is good at writing convincing posts. Why are you so sure about kandesbunzlers protown alignment? Also I don't really understand why you are so focused on bbl. It feels like you and him are pretty much in the same boat regarding Croatia with voting on him early (for the same reasons iirc) and not being there to change the vote.
@quadsas: I don't understand what you are doing. What exactly in jseadog's post made you switch from Marco to him?
jaxika wrote:
For me its clear that one of the Croatia-lynchers is mafia .. or two of them ... bit wich one? 
And dont forget, ryant voted hillis ...
What do you think? Which one? Hillis? What do you think about the others?
Looking forward to see what trekbmc has to say.
Finally I vote to lynch knockout. I doubt I will change it until the end of the day. Knockout is an experienced player and I find it hard to believe a mistake like that would happen to him, if he was a townie.
Question now should also be who would be alongside knockout in the mafia. quadsas like ryant suggested? trekbmc who he had an argument with on day 1 but now is "townish" because he leads the fantasy betting? Maybe even Marco whom he saved? |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:22
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quadsas wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
It will be a DQ starting next game. As said at the time though, he didn't break a rule I had in place and it isn't a DQ now.
Then replace me with a guy you have. I have no intention in playing a game that was influenced by outside forces.
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Posted on 28-01-2020 01:23
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Bikex wrote:
@quadsas: I don't understand what you are doing. What exactly in jseadog's post made you switch from Marco to him?
He needs to go. He's actively ruining the game for everyone.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:43
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quadsas wrote:
Bikex wrote:
@quadsas: I don't understand what you are doing. What exactly in jseadog's post made you switch from Marco to him?
He needs to go. He's actively ruining the game for everyone.
 you are so childish. It is just a game. Lynch quadsas
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:46
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jseadog1 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
Bikex wrote:
@quadsas: I don't understand what you are doing. What exactly in jseadog's post made you switch from Marco to him?
He needs to go. He's actively ruining the game for everyone.
you are so childish. It is just a game. Lynch quadsas
Imagine being so deranged and calling others childish whilst doing the most childish thing ever and cheating
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:49
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@Bikex
@jseadog: What in knockout's post convinced you of his innocence? Just it being long and detailed? He obviously spent much time on it and is good at writing convincing posts. Why are you so sure about kandesbunzlers protown alignment? Also I don't really understand why you are so focused on bbl. It feels like you and him are pretty much in the same boat regarding Croatia with voting on him early (for the same reasons iirc) and not being there to change the vote.
knockout - I think it is because if he was mafia he would not be pushing conversation and bringing up as many points as he does. Just playing way too aggressively to be mafia.
kandes - The way he is playing this game is very convincing to me. He could easily have me fooled but I feel like he never played the game this way before.
bbl - As many others also stated, he is just playing the game so sketchy this time around. Almost being passive aggressive.
quadsas - I'm not sure why he is so offended all of a sudden about what I said. I am not actively ruining the game for anyone. I did not hack databases and reveal who was who. I simply made a statement and claim that had never been done before and something I really did not think about before I did it. I ensured that I would not break any rules before I did and then afterwards I knew it would be pushing the lines of the rules but I did not break any rule. Doesn't really have a reason to be so bitter about it. Mainly why I changed my vote to him. He made it clear he was done playing and not going to be active so we would have trek and quadsas both here inactive and that is pretty much deadly to us. Also could be a mafia tactic to try and get me DQ'd?
@quadsas - If I cheated, go ahead and tell me what rule I broke when looking at page 1.. I will wait
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:51
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jseadog1 wrote:
quadsas - I'm not sure why he is so offended all of a sudden about what I said. I am not actively ruining the game for anyone. I did not hack databases and reveal who was who. I simply made a statement and claim that had never been done before and something I really did not think about before I did it. I ensured that I would not break any rules before I did and then afterwards I knew it would be pushing the lines of the rules but I did not break any rule. Doesn't really have a reason to be so bitter about it. Mainly why I changed my vote to him. He made it clear he was done playing and not going to be active so we would have trek and quadsas both here inactive and that is pretty much deadly to us. Also could be a mafia tactic to try and get me DQ'd?
@quadsas - If I cheated, go ahead and tell me what rule I broke when looking at page 1.. I will wait
you're only alive because of technicality. jandal agrees that you should be DQed, he just didn't put that in the rules and it's too late to replace your dumb ass. that's why I will vote for you every single day until you or me are gone. You being alive invalidates this game
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:52
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I hope you know that you also broke rule 4.3 - If you do not agree with my decision, then write it in a PM to me, and not in the thread.
He never agreed I should be DQ'd. He just said next game it is a new rule. Not saying this game would be a DQ...
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:54
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jseadog1 wrote:
I hope you know that you also broke rule 4.3 - If you do not agree with my decision, then write it in a PM to me, and not in the thread.
He never agreed I should be DQ'd. He just said next game it is a new rule. Not saying this game would be a DQ...
And I'll tell you on good authority that he does agree with me, but the time to get you out was when jandal made the first post and now it's too late. the only chance to salvage this game is by lynching you. had df_trek not posted proof that your actions outside the game have influenced this game I would've been fine. It's no longer fine
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 01:57
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quadsas wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
I hope you know that you also broke rule 4.3 - If you do not agree with my decision, then write it in a PM to me, and not in the thread.
He never agreed I should be DQ'd. He just said next game it is a new rule. Not saying this game would be a DQ...
And I'll tell you on good authority that he does agree with me, but the time to get you out was when jandal made the first post and now it's too late. the only chance to salvage this game is by lynching you. had df_trek not posted proof that your actions outside the game have influenced this game I would've been fine. It's no longer fine
What proof did he post? Is the proof that you believe df_trek but not me?
How is that the only chance to salvage the game? The town would just lose another member and then if you are mafia it makes it easier for you to win...
I've never seen anyone take the game so personally and insult someone else at a personal level.. this game has no meaning and I'm not trying to start a civil war here. I made a strategic decision earlier that did not break any rules.
There is always a period of time before the game when rule suggestions are welcome, make some suggestions the next time. Users bent the rules all the time when I ran big brother a few years ago and it is what it is.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:04
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jseadog1 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
I hope you know that you also broke rule 4.3 - If you do not agree with my decision, then write it in a PM to me, and not in the thread.
He never agreed I should be DQ'd. He just said next game it is a new rule. Not saying this game would be a DQ...
And I'll tell you on good authority that he does agree with me, but the time to get you out was when jandal made the first post and now it's too late. the only chance to salvage this game is by lynching you. had df_trek not posted proof that your actions outside the game have influenced this game I would've been fine. It's no longer fine
What proof did he post? Is the proof that you believe df_trek but not me?
How is that the only chance to salvage the game? The town would just lose another member and then if you are mafia it makes it easier for you to win...
I've never seen anyone take the game so personally and insult someone else at a personal level.. this game has no meaning and I'm not trying to start a civil war here. I made a strategic decision earlier that did not break any rules.
There is always a period of time before the game when rule suggestions are welcome, make some suggestions the next time. Users bent the rules all the time when I ran big brother a few years ago and it is what it is.
Alright, I am done with you now, you must be trolling at this point.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:04
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@Quadsas. The way he got my trust doesn't matter actualy for the aim of the game, until jseadog doesn't break a rule I will cooperate with him, also with more safety as I strongly believe him pro-town.
The fact you will vote every day for him doesn't help the town in any way.
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