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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 28-07-2019 20:19
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Nice sprint for Ewan, once again came from far back. But the Champs Elysses sprint doesn't feel the same anymore, idk  |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 28-07-2019 20:23
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Why Gronewegen stopped that early.with all the way and bike throw it would have been much closer. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 28-07-2019 20:25
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The cameraman falling was the best part of this stage |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 28-07-2019 20:26
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Why Gronewegen stopped that early.with all the way and bike throw it would have been much closer.
Looked a bit exhausted to me. Or by the way he was looking at Ewan, he might not have seen him until it was too late?
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| thuglife7777 |
Posted on 28-07-2019 20:40
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Caleb is the new Cav. Same amazing sprint. |
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| Malkael |
Posted on 28-07-2019 20:56
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Yay Caleb! 
I tell you what though, sprint trains these days currently do not seem to operate with quite the same smooth consistency as they have exhibited in the past. Not sure if that is a team training related thing, team composition related, stage finales being too exhausting to control these days, teams needing to have a bit more composure to not go too fast and flame out early, or what. Far cry from even a few years back though when you could at times see three or more sprint trains riding with a military-like precision against each other.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 28-07-2019 21:51
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DS7SN13 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Ala crushing the Super Combatif award on twitter. 8.2k votes. De Gendt 2nd with 2k
There isn't another choice there really... I like TdG, but he didn't break away as much this year (he should have won in '16), I guess only Wellens or maybe Nibali could get it with their breakaways, but in the end Alaphilippe made this TDF what it was, and therefore he deserves to be on the podium in Paris. The ovation he will get will be nuts!
Yeah, agreed, well deserved. For me, the rider of the year by far.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 28-07-2019 21:59
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https://www.sbnat...low-jersey
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 28-07-2019 22:33
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I find ironic that with so many talents emerging and charismatic riders like Pinot, Bardet, Barguil, Rolland, Alaphilippe or Voeckler who gave the French hope in the past 10/15 years - in this timeframe I can include Moreau too - their best placed rider in the Tour was a 37 year old who turned pro in his 30s.  |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 28-07-2019 22:35
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Bardet has a second place too
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 28-07-2019 22:45
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Oh wow. I had only in my memory that 3rd place from 2017.  |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 28-07-2019 23:01
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FreitasPCM wrote:
I find ironic that with so many talents emerging and charismatic riders like Pinot, Bardet, Barguil, Rolland, Alaphilippe or Voeckler who gave the French hope in the past 10/15 years - in this timeframe I can include Moreau too - their best placed rider in the Tour was a 37 year old who turned pro in his 30s.
Oh crap, I'd forgotten about the legend that is Péraud  |
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| Yellow Jersey |
Posted on 28-07-2019 23:24
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DS7SN13 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Ala crushing the Super Combatif award on twitter. 8.2k votes. De Gendt 2nd with 2k
There isn't another choice there really... I like TdG, but he didn't break away as much this year (he should have won in '16), I guess only Wellens or maybe Nibali could get it with their breakaways, but in the end Alaphilippe made this TDF what it was, and therefore he deserves to be on the podium in Paris. The ovation he will get will be nuts!
I honestly would've loved to see Offredo taking it... He was in front of the boring stages, got sick, rode entire stages by himself whilst sick, survived it all, and rode till the end of the Tour, this, 4 months after a serious crash to his head and back, and 2 months after another brutal crash in Dunkirk. Sure Alaphillipe deserved it, maybe just as much, but I would think they would at least take Offredo a bit more seriously.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 29-07-2019 00:43
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Yellow Jersey wrote:
DS7SN13 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Ala crushing the Super Combatif award on twitter. 8.2k votes. De Gendt 2nd with 2k
There isn't another choice there really... I like TdG, but he didn't break away as much this year (he should have won in '16), I guess only Wellens or maybe Nibali could get it with their breakaways, but in the end Alaphilippe made this TDF what it was, and therefore he deserves to be on the podium in Paris. The ovation he will get will be nuts!
I honestly would've loved to see Offredo taking it... He was in front of the boring stages, got sick, rode entire stages by himself whilst sick, survived it all, and rode till the end of the Tour, this, 4 months after a serious crash to his head and back, and 2 months after another brutal crash in Dunkirk. Sure Alaphillipe deserved it, maybe just as much, but I would think they would at least take Offredo a bit more seriously.
Agree on this. Also most Combatitive imo is for the rider that has impressed the most with breakaways. Alaphilippe did not, he just did what everybody would try to do: defend his jersey for the longest possible time. I may have a view on this that is not as romantic as it should be, but Alaphilippe is defintely the wrong choice for me, and in fact I would've liked 10 other riders ahead of him.
For me I'd have liked Romain Bardet, Yoann Offredo, Stephane Rossetto, Nils Politt, Simon Yates, Greg van Avermaet, Alexey Lutsenko or even Nairo freakin Quintana more.
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| Morgan63 |
Posted on 29-07-2019 06:16
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What a shame. Everything was set up for a big showdown, the best in decades, and instead the weather basically canceled it and we only got 2 lackluster, shortened stages in the end.
All the French hopes imploding at the exact same time. I didn't even watch stage 21, and nearly fell asleep during the short stage 20. (let's all ride up in a blob after dropping Aliphillipe - so exciting!)
In the end this TDF turned out to be one I probably won't even remember.
I assume the little rat looking guy won. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 29-07-2019 06:36
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Croatia14 wrote:
Yellow Jersey wrote:
DS7SN13 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Ala crushing the Super Combatif award on twitter. 8.2k votes. De Gendt 2nd with 2k
There isn't another choice there really... I like TdG, but he didn't break away as much this year (he should have won in '16), I guess only Wellens or maybe Nibali could get it with their breakaways, but in the end Alaphilippe made this TDF what it was, and therefore he deserves to be on the podium in Paris. The ovation he will get will be nuts!
I honestly would've loved to see Offredo taking it... He was in front of the boring stages, got sick, rode entire stages by himself whilst sick, survived it all, and rode till the end of the Tour, this, 4 months after a serious crash to his head and back, and 2 months after another brutal crash in Dunkirk. Sure Alaphillipe deserved it, maybe just as much, but I would think they would at least take Offredo a bit more seriously.
Agree on this. Also most Combatitive imo is for the rider that has impressed the most with breakaways. Alaphilippe did not, he just did what everybody would try to do: defend his jersey for the longest possible time. I may have a view on this that is not as romantic as it should be, but Alaphilippe is defintely the wrong choice for me, and in fact I would've liked 10 other riders ahead of him.
For me I'd have liked Romain Bardet, Yoann Offredo, Stephane Rossetto, Nils Politt, Simon Yates, Greg van Avermaet, Alexey Lutsenko or even Nairo freakin Quintana more.
So the points jersey is also just for the best sprinter? There are many fighters in this Tour and many breakaways. I dont see anyone of those guys standing out, especially not those listed when one begins with out of form lucky Bardet who somehow ended up with that jersey with winning no big mountain, and ends with that diva Quintana who doesnt even pull for his teammmate in a break or fights for KOM on the penultimate stage.
Award is for the guy with the most fighting heart, and that was Alaphilippe all throughout three weeks. Vive la Voecklerling!
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| Morgan63 |
Posted on 29-07-2019 06:54
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Shonak wrote:
So the points jersey is also just for the best sprinter? There are many fighters in this Tour and many breakaways. I dont see anyone of those guys standing out, especially not those listed when one begins with out of form lucky Bardet who somehow ended up with that jersey with winning no big mountain, and ends with that diva Quintana who doesnt even pull for his teammmate in a break or fights for KOM on the penultimate stage.
Award is for the guy with the most fighting heart, and that was Alaphilippe all throughout three weeks. Vive la Voecklerling!
I would have voted for either Aliphillippe or Pinot, but since Pinot ended up on the side of rode sobbing like a little girl because he banged hin knee on his handlebars that leaves Aliphilippe.
No one else was doing anything of real consequence. Easy to attack or breakaway when you aren't a GC threat and you basically take days off to rest up for it. |
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 29-07-2019 11:22
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I think they need to do something about the KOM competition.
For Bardet to win after basically getting in one break makes a bit of a mockery out of the competition. Maybe they should limit the number of KOM sprints per stage to 2. That way a rider would have to do more than get in the break on the Queen Stage to win the jersey.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 29-07-2019 11:27
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Actually, forget that. I suppose the last two mountain stages got destroyed and so Bardet just got lucky this year in that he took the jersey and then most subsequent climbs got removed. Would probably have been different if the full profiles had been raced.
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| roturn |
Posted on 29-07-2019 11:34
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Actually I totally agree with you still. Even with the last two stages being raced normally, this could go far too easy with 1-2 days only on the big HC mountains.
The small mountains just give too few points in comparison to the big ones. HC with 40 seems to be too much really.
It would be good to better the balance between GC riders winning mountain top finishes, early KoM stages and later queen stages.
What Wellens did early on did cost a lot of work but was only good for having hte jersey for several days. Still a nice result but nothing that is remembered 1-2 years later. And it just made him more tired for later stages when others attacked for late but big KoM points. |
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