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Tour de France 2019
deek12345
best tour since 2011 going out like this shame
 
Miguel98
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Profile for tomorrow. Bernal to destroy competition on the finale tomorrow
 
Shonak
hillis91 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
quadsas wrote:
An asterisk win.

I wish Bernal was in likeable team

Biggest asterisk ever in the sport imo.


Biggest stretch in PCMDaily ever IMO

Please name a bigger one.
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Kirchen_75
Miguel98 wrote:
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Profile for tomorrow. Bernal to destroy competition on the finale tomorrow


I dont know. This climb looks easy. Its long we will get like 20km of van Baarle
 
Forever the Best
Once again awful rerouting going from place A to place B. They could have climbed Madeleine, Grand Naves, or even both of them before Val Thorens but they decide not to. Because they are lazy in making routes. Awful organization once again.

Madeleine:
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Grand Naves: (The sud-ouest (south west) variant)
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Kirchen_75
Forever the Best wrote:
Once again awful rerouting going from place A to place B. They could have climbed Madeleine, Grand Naves, or even both of them before Val Thorens but they decide not to. Because they are lazy in making routes. Awful organization once again.

Madeleine:
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Grand Naves: (The sud-ouest (south west) variant)
https://www.alpes4...and-naves/


Both would be too much but Madeleine would be perfect
 
Scorchio
Really sad to see what was boiling up to something legendary has been hamstrung. Difficult to see any other option with today given the timing of events, but cutting the knees off the stage tomorrow without searching out an appropriate substitute is selling the race short Sad.
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alexkr00
You'd think they would have some B plans when this happens.

I guess this is why they decided not to neutralize the GC results from today. Doing that and then shorting tomorrow's stage instead of having a a new route would have played right into's Alaphilippe's hands and then people would accuse them for favoring a French rider when the truth is that they are just incompetent.
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SSJ2Luigi
Shonak wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
quadsas wrote:
An asterisk win.

I wish Bernal was in likeable team

Biggest asterisk ever in the sport imo.


Biggest stretch in PCMDaily ever IMO

Please name a bigger one.

ICL restarting :lol:
 
TheManxMissile
Boy, that's some anger against the re-designed stage! Yeah it's not the same as we wanted, but saying "oh they should go here, to here over this mountain" completely ignores the reality of running a race the size of the Tour.
It takes months to put these routes together and get all the nessesary planning done and infastructure in place. Shifting everything over night to cover brand new roads and mountains, it's litterally impossible to do.
Hopfeully with the short length pre-paris we'll see a few riders go nuts (looking at you Movistar) to keep things interesting and put everyone in the red all day.

And overall, i'm shocked we didn't see some days cut due to heat this week. So only loosing a bit due to the actual mountains falling apart is not half bad!
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Shonak
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Shonak wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
quadsas wrote:
An asterisk win.

I wish Bernal was in likeable team

Biggest asterisk ever in the sport imo.


Biggest stretch in PCMDaily ever IMO

Please name a bigger one.

ICL restarting :lol:

What are you hinting at, do you know something we dont? Shock
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hillis91
Shonak wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
quadsas wrote:
An asterisk win.

I wish Bernal was in likeable team

Biggest asterisk ever in the sport imo.


Biggest stretch in PCMDaily ever IMO

Please name a bigger one.


Lets let the race finish first, and then start handing out the asterisks
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alexkr00
TheManxMissile wrote:
Boy, that's some anger against the re-designed stage! Yeah it's not the same as we wanted, but saying "oh they should go here, to here over this mountain" completely ignores the reality of running a race the size of the Tour.


This is the biggest race in the World though. Surely they should have some B plans in case this very thing happens. Of course it's not easy to run such a race but this was their time to show they can adapt and are prepared for different types of situations. And they failed miserably.

Personally, I haven't enjoyed a Tour as much as I did this one since 2008 and was really looking forward to this last three mountain stages and now it all turned to a shit show.
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Shonak
If someone like Nairo, MAL or Carapaz wins Vuelta then all three winners would come from South America. Would be quite historic as well after the british dominance last year albeit different nations this time.
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Shonak
alexkr00 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Boy, that's some anger against the re-designed stage! Yeah it's not the same as we wanted, but saying "oh they should go here, to here over this mountain" completely ignores the reality of running a race the size of the Tour.


This is the biggest race in the World though. Surely they should have some B plans in case this very thing happens. Of course it's not easy to run such a race but this was their time to show they can adapt and are prepared for different types of situations. And they failed miserably.

Personally, I haven't enjoyed a Tour as much as I did this one since 2008 and was really looking forward to this last three mountain stages and now it all turned to a shit show.

What was not so good with 2011 or 2009?
You didnt enjoy Armstrong getting trashed? I have waited for that since 1999.
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Shonak
Miguel98 wrote:




Bernal wears that jersey with more proud than Thomas or Froome ever did

Colombia es amor <3

Also more charismatic.in a singl interview than Froome.exe in 7 years on top.
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alexkr00
Shonak wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Boy, that's some anger against the re-designed stage! Yeah it's not the same as we wanted, but saying "oh they should go here, to here over this mountain" completely ignores the reality of running a race the size of the Tour.


This is the biggest race in the World though. Surely they should have some B plans in case this very thing happens. Of course it's not easy to run such a race but this was their time to show they can adapt and are prepared for different types of situations. And they failed miserably.

Personally, I haven't enjoyed a Tour as much as I did this one since 2008 and was really looking forward to this last three mountain stages and now it all turned to a shit show.

What was not so good with 2011 or 2009?
You didnt enjoy Armstrong getting trashed? I have waited for that since 1999.


They were good editions as well.

But I mean as for the GC fight. 2009 turned into a Contador show. As for 2011, I'm not exactly a sympathizer of the Schlecks or Cadel Evans. But seeing Voeckler keeping the hopes alive for some time was quite cool Smile

And for seeing Armstrong getting trashed... I only started following cycling properly with the 2005 Tour so I didn't have to endure him that much Pfft
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TheManxMissile
alexkr00 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Boy, that's some anger against the re-designed stage! Yeah it's not the same as we wanted, but saying "oh they should go here, to here over this mountain" completely ignores the reality of running a race the size of the Tour.


This is the biggest race in the World though. Surely they should have some B plans in case this very thing happens. Of course it's not easy to run such a race but this was their time to show they can adapt and are prepared for different types of situations. And they failed miserably.


Granted it's been quite a few years since i was lucky enough to work with the RideLondon organisers, but having seen first hand the insane lengths organisers have to go to for permissions, policing, barriers, sinage and on and on the list goes. Genuinely it's quite amazing!

We've seen the Giro cut days short, remember MSR a few years ago slicing out almost half the race? Even the Tour has done this before cutting up mountain stages when the weather gets too hard.
There's an amount of alternative planning if a road becomes unavailable, but in some places there just is not an alternative available without insane access to funds and man-power. Like, the Tour would need to have probably double it's workforce to make the main route ready and prepare an alternate route as well, and double the cash!
And all that avoids going heavily into road closures and when that information has to be put out to local governments, local businesses and local residents. And then again in confirming that information.

And again, really it sucks to see the final real stage of the race cut down in such an extreme way. But todays weather and scenario is such a random fluke i can't see how ASO could be expected to plan this. Multiple landslides? Hail and snow one day after record high temperatures?
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baseballlover312
This Tour was a waste of 3 weeks. Looked like it was gonna be good, then a landslide decides the winner and the final Alpine stage is gimped to nothing.

Year after year it just becomes more of a farce. After Froome running up Ventoux I never thought it could get worse. Yet here we are, and for one reason or another the TDF has been on of the worst major races on the calendar for almost a decade.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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Shonak
Yeah its a great a shame that the tour keeps on disappointing even when it's not its actual fault this time. As the biggest race in the sport it will always be the main adversitement and you wont get more viewers (and money) into the sport with stuff like that or the yearly sky/ineos dominance.

At least there is genuine good racing before ans after the Tour all year around.
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