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Jakstar22
SBS stopped their coverage early in Australia Sad

Anyone got any more news? What’s happening with time bonuses for the finish of the stage and the overall GC?

Honestly wtf just happened!!!
 
cio93
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Jumbo Visma have to protest this. Theres no way this stands


Bora chef Denk weirdly didn't seem to mind this decision in a TV interview just now.
 
Tamijo
Shit.....but no way that could ride the finish today. ASO took the right approach, even without the landslide can't compete in a stream of centimeters of snowy water.
 
Jakstar22
Tamijo wrote:
Shit.....but no way that could ride the finish today. ASO took the right approach, even without the landslide can't compete in a stream of centimeters of snowy water.


Would have made for a quick and easy ice bath when they all fell off the bikes from the slippery roads though...
 
Netris
Jakstar22 wrote:
SBS stopped their coverage early in Australia Sad

Anyone got any more news? What’s happening with time bonuses for the finish of the stage and the overall GC?

Honestly wtf just happened!!!


The race is handled as if it ended at the top of the Iserand.
 
Jakstar22
Netris wrote:
Jakstar22 wrote:
SBS stopped their coverage early in Australia Sad

Anyone got any more news? What’s happening with time bonuses for the finish of the stage and the overall GC?

Honestly wtf just happened!!!


The race is handled as if it ended at the top of the Iserand.


Oh wtf...I mean seeing photos good decision but like they must’ve known...it’s so good for Allaphillipe though. Only 30-40 seconds back for tomorrow and slightly rested legs...

Sad to see Pinot gone Sad he was lighting up the tour!!
 
Roudou_77
Hi from a silent reader from France

Violent thunderstorms with hails, and some landslides around Val d'Isère. And from various sources in France, all of this happened when Riders were climbing Izeran.

a little video from twitter

https://twitter.c...4980230145
Edited by Roudou_77 on 26-07-2019 16:29
 
Miguel98
Was trying to find similar situations

https://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/key...e_to_snow/

This is the most similar we're finding...

It really puts a place into things tho. Do you just ignore everyone's effort and cancel the stage? Or do you take the time and assume the stage would have happened the same way?
Edited by Miguel98 on 26-07-2019 16:30
 
matt17br
cio93 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Jumbo Visma have to protest this. Theres no way this stands


Bora chef Denk weirdly didn't seem to mind this decision in a TV interview just now.

Because there are no better alternatives than this one? It sucked the decision came so late - and I don't understand how it's possible that they didn't even announce the prospect of neutralising the stage until 10m into the descent - but what are they supposed to do? Completely cancel the stage and race tomorrow's stage with yesterday's standings? That would have been even more unfair if everyone puts their biases aside for a second.

This situation is damaging for pretty much everyone EXCEPT Alaphilippe btw, regardless of how pissed he looked the moment he got told the race was stopped. He wasn't making up any significant time in the downhill up to that point, and you can't tell me he wouldn't have lost any more time in the climb to Tignes.

Bernal is the rightful Tour's winner - barring any huge surprises - with or without this 'controversy'. Do you not think it sucks for him that his epic Tour-winning attack got stopped like that?
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Jakstar22
Landslide Shock

https://twitter.com/trondiversen/stat...94208?s=21
 
cio93
Miguel98 wrote:
It really puts a place into things tho. Do you just ignore everyone's effort and cancel the stage? Or do you take the time and assume the stage would have happened the same way?


Ride this stage again tomorrow, Val Thorens on Sunday and get to Paris on Monday? Pfft
 
Jakstar22
matt17br wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Jumbo Visma have to protest this. Theres no way this stands


Bora chef Denk weirdly didn't seem to mind this decision in a TV interview just now.

Because there are no better alternatives than this one? It sucked the decision came so late - and I don't understand how it's possible that they didn't even announce the prospect of neutralising the stage until 10m into the descent - but what are they supposed to do? Completely cancel the stage and race tomorrow's stage with yesterday's standings? That would have been even more unfair if everyone puts their biases aside for a second.

This situation is damaging for pretty much everyone EXCEPT Alaphilippe btw, regardless of how pissed he looked the moment he got told the race was stopped. He wasn't making up any significant time in the downhill up to that point, and you can't tell me he wouldn't have lost any more time in the climb to Tignes.

Bernal is the rightful Tour's winner - barring any huge surprises - with or without this 'controversy'. Do you not think it sucks for him that his epic Tour-winning attack got stopped like that?


Well said Matt!!
 
Jakstar22
cio93 wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
It really puts a place into things tho. Do you just ignore everyone's effort and cancel the stage? Or do you take the time and assume the stage would have happened the same way?


Ride this stage again tomorrow, Val Thorens on Sunday and get to Paris on Monday? Pfft


I have no objection to this :lol:
 
FreitasPCM
Good decision, of course. Now, they should entirely neutralize the stage, Alaphilippe remains in yellow, Brailsford protests tomorrow’s stage by neutralizing it as well, riders arrive at Val Thorens all together and on Sunday Alaphilippe wins the Tour after two neutralized stages and Skyneos retires from cycling on Monday afterwards. Of course this makes as much sense as counting the times at the top of the climb today, but I’m fully down for what cio said. Pfft
Edited by FreitasPCM on 26-07-2019 16:35
 
Omloop
Nobody won the stage
 
Jakstar22
FreitasPCM wrote:
Good decision, of course. Now, they should entirely neutralize the stage, Alaphilippe remains in yellow, Brailsford protests tomorrow’s stage by neutralizing it as well, riders arrive at Val Thorens all together and on Sunday Alaphilippe wins the Tour after two neutralized stages and Skyneos retires from cycling on Monday afterwards. Of course this makes as much sense as counting the times at the top of the climb today, but I’m fully down for what cio said. Pfft


Hey, Italy did it in the Giro when Nibbles won a few years back...I’m sure France could pull something off
 
Kirchen_75
Cancel the whole stage and do a TT Val d'Isere-Tignes tomorrow morning. Thats what I would have done
 
cosmic
The issue isn't the fact that the stage was stopped though. It would be impossible to continue, so no one can dispute that.

The issue is that they hand out the TdF GC win, with several contenders not being allowed to perform their best on this stage. Cancelling the stage would've been a more fair decision in my opinion. But oh well, congrats to Bernal I guess..
 
Jakstar22
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Cancel the whole stage and do a TT Val d'Isere-Tignes tomorrow morning. Thats what I would have done


Yeh but then all the riders would be. Angry cause they put all the effort into today (well what they raced at least). Like you just can’t really win with this situation. Not a lot the organisers can do
 
Forever the Best
Jakstar22 wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Good decision, of course. Now, they should entirely neutralize the stage, Alaphilippe remains in yellow, Brailsford protests tomorrow’s stage by neutralizing it as well, riders arrive at Val Thorens all together and on Sunday Alaphilippe wins the Tour after two neutralized stages and Skyneos retires from cycling on Monday afterwards. Of course this makes as much sense as counting the times at the top of the climb today, but I’m fully down for what cio said. Pfft


Hey, Italy did it in the Giro when Nibbles won a few years back...I’m sure France could pull something off
No they didn't. They cancelled stage 19 before the stage started. They cancelled Sestrieres on stage 14 and rode the plan B stage, just like stage 15 where they finished lower down the Galibier which the riders were informed. And they did the plan B on stage 20 as well, cancelling the earlier climbs. And Nibbles was the strongest anyway.
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