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PCM.daily Stat Discussion
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| marcoplv95 |
Posted on 26-06-2019 18:59
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Andrea Vendrame is criminally underrated, needs huge upgrade. He was performing like Chaves in his breakaway win. And Chaves is 78MON while Vendrame 70.
Edited by marcoplv95 on 26-06-2019 19:18
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 26-06-2019 19:00
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marcoplv95 wrote:
Andrea Vendrame is criminally underrated, needs huge upgrade. He was performing like Chaves in his breakaway win. And Chaves is 78MON.
which type of stats would you propose then? as he's an in between rider his main qualification which are sprints after hard races are drawn by the combination of hill and sprint stat, in which he is one of the best in PCT...
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 26-06-2019 19:04
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AiZaK wrote:
Congratulations the update 3 its amazing, i was checking a little and Diego Milan (Iteja Team) has an error his stats are in flat/hill/spr/acc 63/64 etc... i guess you would put 71/72 or similar in spr/acc. 69/70 in flat and 67/68 in hills
If you relaease a new update of .cbr for fix errors you can repair him
True, there must have been a mix-up with Jonathan Milan, this will be fixed in future cdbs...
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| marcoplv95 |
Posted on 26-06-2019 19:14
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I'd suggest
FLA 74
MON 74 (+4)
HIL 74
SPR 73 (-1)
ACC 77
DHI 71 (+5)
FTR 73
STA 75
RES 77 (+4)
REC 73 (+2)
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 26-06-2019 23:30
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marcoplv95 wrote:
I'd suggest
FLA 74
MON 74 (+4)
HIL 74
SPR 73 (-1)
ACC 77
DHI 71 (+5)
FTR 73
STA 75
RES 77 (+4)
REC 73 (+2)
Do you want me to argue about them?
Who rider do you suggest? |
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| Agent David |
Posted on 27-06-2019 06:38
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I think he suggests Andrea Vendrame
And I think these stats are too much. I think he deserves lower RES and maybe ACC
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 27-06-2019 09:11
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As Agent David stated that res is too high for Vendrame and also take into consideration that Chaves in hindsight now, is probably too highly rated at 78 mtn as he's not the rider he once was and is also not a very strong 78 either. Also the stage he won was one of the typical mtn stages where the gradient was not too high.
More importantly need some advice about Van Aert because since this update he had those amazing performances at Dauphine and so sprint and TT stats needed as it's very hard to stat him in these, at moment his is 70/77 sprint and 71/74 TT and he performed way above these stats?
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 27-06-2019 09:21
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Van Aert in SPR can be 73 |
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| Agent David |
Posted on 27-06-2019 10:43
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My opinions about Van Aert:
His TT/PRL stats I think should be something like 74/76, because:
- in last year he raced only one TT and he was 2nd, he beat TTists like Madsen, Quaade, Grivko, Juul Jensen... He was beaten only by Mads Pedersen, who had in 2018 74/75 TT/PRL stats.
- in this year's Dauphine he beat bigger TT names, such as A. Yates, Politt, Bettiol...
So his 74/76 should be minimum, it should be maybe higher. I don't know how big impact has RES on TT now, but 79 RES should help him a bit, so I found these stats realistic.
About his sprint, it's hard to say. Big ACC has a good impact on a sprint ingame, but 70 SPR is maybe too low. I didn't see his sprint win on TV, but I think something like 72/73 SPR is good. 77 ACC is IMO suitable aswell.
And btw, I agree about Diego Milan's stats that AiZaK suggested. His stats were good in U2, only maybe he should have higher MTN stat.
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| luis lopes |
Posted on 27-06-2019 13:22
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well again bad graphics are still not resolved in apdate 3, we go to the bikes, they do not change color, the colors of the teams, bikes that have color fixed, and bikes that have the road frames and do not have time frames trial, then also has marks of frames that in the editor lachi not to select because they do not exist but they are in the game and there are more errors of these with wheels and in almost all frames |
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| Agent David |
Posted on 27-06-2019 13:38
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luis lopes wrote:
well again bad graphics are still not resolved in apdate 3, we go to the bikes, they do not change color, the colors of the teams, bikes that have color fixed, and bikes that have the road frames and do not have time frames trial, then also has marks of frames that in the editor lachi not to select because they do not exist but they are in the game and there are more errors of these with wheels and in almost all frames
I suppose you should write it here: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread...d_id=52663
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| jeremyrobin |
Posted on 27-06-2019 13:51
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Johan Le Bon has 74 in tt and 64 in prl, it's normal ? |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 27-06-2019 14:10
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surely not, nice spot
@luis lopes: please write stuff like this in the bugs and support thread as Agent David posted. And even more: Please use somehow reasonable sentence structure, I honestly don't think I understood your full point of criticism.
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| luis lopes |
Posted on 27-06-2019 21:30
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I apologize because I was wrong to post on this topic, but it's a criticism I've been missing some time and this has never happened, database with huge errors and failures by this time, (pro cycling manager 19 is coming) and if you do not understand my criticism then and because you do not play the game.I play with a Portuguese team with blue colors and it is equipped with focus frames with fixed colors of green etc and not the color of the team, and this happens with huge marks frames! there are marks that do not have frame time trial etc! and one more thing do not criticize me because I did not criticize anyone on a personal level, I criticized mistakes and failures and cycling I perceive myself because I was a Portuguese professional cyclist .... |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-06-2019 21:50
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Agent David wrote:
My opinions about Van Aert:
His TT/PRL stats I think should be something like 74/76, because:
- in last year he raced only one TT and he was 2nd, he beat TTists like Madsen, Quaade, Grivko, Juul Jensen... He was beaten only by Mads Pedersen, who had in 2018 74/75 TT/PRL stats.
- in this year's Dauphine he beat bigger TT names, such as A. Yates, Politt, Bettiol...
So his 74/76 should be minimum, it should be maybe higher. I don't know how big impact has RES on TT now, but 79 RES should help him a bit, so I found these stats realistic.
About his sprint, it's hard to say. Big ACC has a good impact on a sprint ingame, but 70 SPR is maybe too low. I didn't see his sprint win on TV, but I think something like 72/73 SPR is good. 77 ACC is IMO suitable aswell.
And btw, I agree about Diego Milan's stats that AiZaK suggested. His stats were good in U2, only maybe he should have higher MTN stat.
He won the belgian NC today, defeating Lampaert, Evenepoel and especially Campenaerts.
I see Van Aert less as an acc sprinter and more as a power sprinter. He's not slow or anything, I dunno why he got that low rating.
Edited by Ollfardh on 27-06-2019 21:54
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 27-06-2019 21:51
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Thanks for the suggestions for Van Aert and it looks like his TT is indeed good as just noticed he has won the Belgian nat TT ahead of Lampaert
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-06-2019 21:59
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Well it has never been bad, just didn't ride that many yet. But I remember this one from his first RR season:
https://cqranking...ceid=29730
Also might wanna keep an eye on Tim Merlier as well, he's been getting good sprint results lately (joined Corendon May 1) and looks good for the NC. Based on the cyclocross sprints, he's faster than both Wout and Mathieu.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 30-06-2019 16:51
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And Merlier wins it. But to be honest, it's not just him, Corendon is incredibly strong in their first year in the PCT. Vermeersch was awesome for Mathieu in the spring classics and their sprint train with De Bondt, Stallaert and Jans performs like they've been riding together for years. Definitely one of the top PCT teams this year.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Agent David |
Posted on 30-06-2019 18:49
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I'd like to ask, do you have set a date, when you release update with fixes and stat updates (especially CT)? I don't want to bother your time, I only want to start a career and maybe one project with these post-Giro (and maybe post NC) stats. I don't know how far you are with stat updates, but I hope the release date will be before TdF. Thanks for response and thanks for the hard work.
Edited by Agent David on 30-06-2019 19:25
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 30-06-2019 19:13
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I am in the same situation, when finish the update fix, i will add illince small races and I want to start a new career
Thanks guys for your great work! |
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