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df_Trek
TheManxMissile wrote:
I like the responses, that's good discussion! I shift to Lynch no-one, feeling satisfied in the reply for now. I just couldn't let the claim be so overlooked by the rest of the aimless shouting. Although you were never in danger, given the way the rest of the lynch votes are going.


Uhm after a reflecting period on your previous post I was connecting to cast a vote against you, in particular because I don't want to terminate also day 2 without a lynch vote, and you were the one with the weirdest excuse for voting someone.
Now this remixes things again, but I need to figure out how much this is just a try to repair after a slippery post or it's fair.

Sammy was another player I marked because seems to avoid to hear Marco's final statements and go straight to kill him.
 
quadsas
I am just gonna say this, if you're not willing to cooperate, then I may make a post when I am about to die explaining how incredibly bad not cooperating with me is, which you can use in your next games.

Detective, tracker, doctor. Reveal yourselves. basic townies, reveal yourself. Otherwise, you will lose.

I am basic townie
deez
 
quadsas
Forgot to mention why I made that post.

There's absolutely no point to continue playing if everybody else is refusing to play
deez
 
Croatia14
quadsas wrote:
Detective, tracker, doctor. Reveal yourselves. basic townies, reveal yourself. Otherwise, you will lose.


This is just plain stupid though. And thinking about the fact that two townies are dead that we don't even know what their roles were it's an even worse idea, because it paves the way for abuse by the mafia. Even with evidence this would be a bad idea for the townies, without it is even more stupid and only helps the mafia.
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quadsas
Croatia14 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
Detective, tracker, doctor. Reveal yourselves. basic townies, reveal yourself. Otherwise, you will lose.


This is just plain stupid though. And thinking about the fact that two townies are dead that we don't even know what their roles were it's an even worse idea, because it paves the way for abuse by the mafia. Even with evidence this would be a bad idea for the townies, without it is even more stupid and only helps the mafia.


Sure buddy, it is incredibly stupid to reduce amount of possible mafia from 10 to 7. Stupidest fucking thing you could do. lmao I can't believe you actually think it's BAD to know who TOWN are. That's just so backwards
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Croatia14
In Fact no, we wouldn't even reduce it. If you reread my statement, you'd see why. We can't trust any claims without evidence, because of two freaking townies dead we don't know the role of - so if anybody comes out and says "I'm the doctor", btw please don't!!, then we can't even trust him because it could be a mafia guy if the real doctor has been killed. So no, not from 3 out of ten to 3 out if 7, instead from 3 out of 10 to 3 out if 10 for townies and an easier game for the mafia.

But I more and more tend to believe that you don't want to understand that anyway...
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Yeah, because nobody ever lies when claiming town right? Stupid
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quadsas
Wow, the level of play here is WAY, WAY lower than I anticipated. Whatever, just lynch me and get it over with.
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hillis91
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sammyt93
Croatia14 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
Detective, tracker, doctor. Reveal yourselves. basic townies, reveal yourself. Otherwise, you will lose.


This is just plain stupid though. And thinking about the fact that two townies are dead that we don't even know what their roles were it's an even worse idea, because it paves the way for abuse by the mafia. Even with evidence this would be a bad idea for the townies, without it is even more stupid and only helps the mafia.


We know Marco was just a townie, if he had a role he would have claimed it and wouldn't have been lynched, do you really think he would have taken the knowledge of his town role to the grave with him once he saw my vote?

The only one we don't know is if Jandal had a role or not.

I am just a normal townie, if I had a town role I would have claimed it by now, because unlike the rest of the town I am actually understanding of the strategy that Quadsas is trying to get us to use and know that is the best one for the town, that is how I know he is 99% townie.

Not knowing how we normally play this game on this forum, to make that call as a mafia member would be suicidal, If he wasn't town he would have been talked out of it by his fellow mafia members unless he had gone rogue.

If the Detective, Doctor and Tracker were not Jandal it is imperitive to the game that you come forward now, we can effectively win the game today if you do, or you can stay silent and goby luck and hope you get a lead like we always have done in the past.

I really struggle to believe how the town as a whole is ok with ryant claiming, and agree that doing so makes him confirmed town due to lack of counter claim, but don't want the other roles coming forward to do the same.

Having them confirmed town, or having them bait out a mafia counter claim is best for the town right now.

There are 10 players left alive, 3 of which are mafia, 1 is confirmed town, if the 3 remaining power roles are still alive and come forward then that makes 4 confirmed town.

That leaves us at 3 mafia and only 6 people it could be.

From my perspective I know I am a normal townie, I am convinced enough by Quadsas' gameplay that he is a normal townie, so I would then be down to trying to find 3 mafia out of 4 players, not exactly bad odds is it?
 
sammyt93
Oh, and the best part is that I would have 4 guaranteed townies that would likely get killed at night meaning I would have enough time to try and kill all 4 of the remaining suspects.
 
sammyt93
If there is a counter claim the tracker can be used to verify it by the town agreeing who the doctor should save and who the detective should investigate. If there is no counter claim we might still need to do this to verify jandal was only a normal townie and not a power role unless jandal was the tracker, which is only a 12.5% chance he was.

Otherwise we have got an easy town win on our hands.
 
sammyt93
And it goes without saying all roles should reveal their night 1 actions and results when claiming.
 
quadsas
sammyt93 wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
Detective, tracker, doctor. Reveal yourselves. basic townies, reveal yourself. Otherwise, you will lose.


This is just plain stupid though. And thinking about the fact that two townies are dead that we don't even know what their roles were it's an even worse idea, because it paves the way for abuse by the mafia. Even with evidence this would be a bad idea for the townies, without it is even more stupid and only helps the mafia.


We know Marco was just a townie, if he had a role he would have claimed it and wouldn't have been lynched, do you really think he would have taken the knowledge of his town role to the grave with him once he saw my vote?

The only one we don't know is if Jandal had a role or not.

I am just a normal townie, if I had a town role I would have claimed it by now, because unlike the rest of the town I am actually understanding of the strategy that Quadsas is trying to get us to use and know that is the best one for the town, that is how I know he is 99% townie.

Not knowing how we normally play this game on this forum, to make that call as a mafia member would be suicidal, If he wasn't town he would have been talked out of it by his fellow mafia members unless he had gone rogue.

If the Detective, Doctor and Tracker were not Jandal it is imperitive to the game that you come forward now, we can effectively win the game today if you do, or you can stay silent and goby luck and hope you get a lead like we always have done in the past.

I really struggle to believe how the town as a whole is ok with ryant claiming, and agree that doing so makes him confirmed town due to lack of counter claim, but don't want the other roles coming forward to do the same.

Having them confirmed town, or having them bait out a mafia counter claim is best for the town right now.

There are 10 players left alive, 3 of which are mafia, 1 is confirmed town, if the 3 remaining power roles are still alive and come forward then that makes 4 confirmed town.

That leaves us at 3 mafia and only 6 people it could be.

From my perspective I know I am a normal townie, I am convinced enough by Quadsas' gameplay that he is a normal townie, so I would then be down to trying to find 3 mafia out of 4 players, not exactly bad odds is it?


I have to commend you for finding willpower in you to post this. But it's just not going to work. Because remember, MAFIA WILL START LYING and counter claiming, that's why you should never claim a role, and certainly not try confirming yourself on day 2 and possibly confirming others. That's just not the way you're supposed to play this game. You should hope you get lucky and have a 50% winrate as town
deez
 
hillis91
Im just a normal townie. So no night actions for me.
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jseadog1
Everyone is just going to say "Im a normal townie" and all of you saying that are paving the way for power roles to be found easier....

quadsas is being annoying and acting confrontational isn't going to make anybody befriend him. He's a town member I think but I'm tired of putting up with it and he's being a distraction to any further discussion right now.

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quadsas
jseadog1 wrote:
Everyone is just going to say "Im a normal townie" and all of you saying that are paving the way for power roles to be found easier....

quadsas is being annoying and acting confrontational isn't going to make anybody befriend him. He's a town member I think but I'm tired of putting up with it and he's being a distraction to any further discussion right now.


ITS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE GAME TO KNOW WHAT ROLE EVERYONE HAS. Are you just trying to lynch random people or are you trying to lynch your enemies? If it's the latter, then what the fuck are you talking about? Honestly every single post of yours has been complete garbage, wish there was an ignore feature, cause you're basically posting in this thread without playing the game
deez
 
quadsas
honestly, just

lynch jseadog1

df_trek is at least trying to say something other than random lunatic babble
deez
 
sammyt93
@jseadog

The idea is we find the town power roles so we know they aren't mafia, we are looking to narrow down the suspects without killing townies in the process.

@quadsas

Counter claims have the potential to buy the mafia 1 extra day, but that would be a 50/50 as to whether we get the power role or mafia member with our lynch, if we can't force a mistake out first.

If wrong they would be lynched the next day so giving themselves away.

We just have to hope they dont delay enough to out themselves in the favourite position, or we can force them into a mistake that reveals themselves before then
 
sammyt93
@jseadog

The idea is we find the town power roles so we know they aren't mafia, we are looking to narrow down the suspects without killing townies in the process.

@quadsas

Counter claims have the potential to buy the mafia 1 extra day, but that would be a 50/50 as to whether we get the power role or mafia member with our lynch, if we can't force a mistake out first.

If wrong they would be lynched the next day so giving themselves away.

We just have to hope they dont delay enough to out themselves in the favourite position, or we can force them into a mistake that reveals themselves before then
 
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