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Mafia VIII | Dumbtell or Scumtell?
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 14:56
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Jseadog's last 2 vote counts both missed Ryant's latest vote change before them.
So after Ryant's change to no lynch Hillis and Aquarius are now both tied at 3 votes each with Jseadog and df_trek both on 2 votes.
So I feel someone must ask Ryant why he has changed to nobody instead of Aquarius, Jseadog or df_trek.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-03-2019 15:18
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Quick post because no time now, but wanted to log in before deadline after a quick read-up of the situation to change my vote to: lynch Aquarius.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 15:23
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I don't like lynching Aquarius either - he stepped first on the wagon of masons showing themselves asap when no mainstream opinion was built, something I don't think he would've done this early if mafia.
as stated with hillis before I also tend towards trusting Aquarius.
I will change my vote from jseadog to df_trek if people believe that he is more suspicious and we could rescue Hillis and maybe Aquarius like this
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 15:58
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Also I think Ian Butler is Mafia right now, but we dont have enough votes for that it seems. His posts look strange to me. Again he's trying to lynch on the bandwagon again. I'd be comfortable with lynching one of df_trek, ryant, Ian Butler, jseadog, bbl, (sammyt). Others I think should survive at least tonight.
Also: everybody be ready to switch votes very quickly. If new information/cases or suspicious statements occur, f.e. ifwe could come close of lynching the terrorist and he bombs, that may give us new ideas in quick time. So I urge everybody to try and be somehow able to check daily in the last 30 minutes before the deadline and react accordingly to new developments if necessary
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 16:07
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Croatia14 wrote:
Also: everybody be ready to switch votes very quickly. If new information/cases or suspicious statements occur, f.e. ifwe could come close of lynching the terrorist and he bombs, that may give us new ideas in quick time. So I urge everybody to try and be somehow able to check daily in the last 30 minutes before the deadline and react accordingly to new developments if necessary
Good idea. Is there even a set minute that it ends? Or will Jandal just do it at approximately the time he said. I don't remember seeing a hard time like 3 PM EST or 3:15 PM EST/EDT or anything like that?
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 16:27
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roughly 2 and a half hours to go
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| knockout |
Posted on 28-03-2019 16:54
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Croatia14 wrote:
I don't like lynching Aquarius either - he stepped first on the wagon of masons showing themselves asap when no mainstream opinion was built, something I don't think he would've done this early if mafia.
as stated with hillis before I also tend towards trusting Aquarius.
I will change my vote from jseadog to df_trek if people believe that he is more suspicious and we could rescue Hillis and maybe Aquarius like this
Im not willing to use his masons post as a defense against him. That is exactly the kind of smart posts that i would have loved giving as a mafia with a reputation of being quite solid in the game. You dont really help the town with finding mafia, but you might still be seen as a contributer.
Masons showing themselves first day was perfect but without hillis as one of them i think i would have prefered a mid day 2 claim (if wanted i can explain on the next game day). I think having one more day to kill them before they reach the endgame is kinda favorable for the mafia without losing any claim town credit. So yeah i dont see it as a clear cut town post.
Is that post your only reason to trust him or is there much more against him? Its a very long list of players youd be willing to lynch instead and i dont see how so many appear more scummish than him.
I think i wont change my vote even when it would be Ian to go against him. Im quite happy to see Aquarius leading now. Not sure if ill be online for the deadline but ill try.
Also can you give me your analysis for Ian? I feel like i was pretty much the only to doubt him and now suddenly you come up with your statement, no analysis, just his bandwagon lynch vote
Id love to hear your case against the others but there is not much time but perhaps today your analysis against Ian and for Aquarius please? Or whoever youd see as your no.1 lynch target now to derail the vote.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 17:16
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I've been away for work, and have not been able to be active.
Will post later, when i get myself home.
To be continued.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 17:28
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Been able to read some of the posts her so far, and Marco is correct. Me being away for the last couple of days, he decided to reveal us. Which, judging from the posts i've read. Was smart.
Im a mason.
Any direct questions for me so i can prove something here?
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| ryant |
Posted on 28-03-2019 17:47
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I moved my vote from hillis to no one since I'm really uncomfortable with lynching Aquarius or Ian Butler since I think:
A) Aquarius and Sammyt's posts seem to be a coincidence to me and I cant really tell the suspicions on Aquarius is due to much else - I also agreed with his reasoning that the masons should come out early.
B) Knockout wants Ian lynched why? I dont know really. Is it because he like me was uncomfortable with us blindly following what knockout has to say?
Now, I could easily get behind a vote on df_trek, his lynch vote on me isnt well explained in my opinion but I dont want to put a vote on him if others believe I'm voting on him since he votes me - I wouldn't since he hasnt put much in terms of the overall debate in the town and he hasnt been active lately.
I could have kept my vote on knockout but then his lobbying power is too strong and wouldnt gain traction. I mean if I vote against him then that is a black mark against me and so I decided to lynch no one in the end.
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| ryant |
Posted on 28-03-2019 17:50
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Fuck it I'm lynching df_trek rather he would get lynched over Aquarius and I believe if its 3 vs 3 then hillis would get lynched in the tie break? (Which obviously I don't want to happen and voting no one doesn't help Aquarius either)
Croatia I want you to vote on df_trek!!!
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 28-03-2019 17:56
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I currently have my vote on df_trek but he doesn't strike me as an obvious target to begin with. Ryant now jumping to df_trek is a risk if no one follows him, meaning hillis get lynched, If his reasoning is that he believes Aquarius is definitely not mafia (I consider Aquarius more likely to be mafia than df_trek) to be honest then this is a weird move.
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 17:57
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Regarding the whole mason thing I will change my vote. From my previous posts Aquarius would be the next choice, but croatia brought something up I am willing to consider:
Croatia14 wrote:
I don't like lynching Aquarius either - he stepped first on the wagon of masons showing themselves asap when no mainstream opinion was built, something I don't think he would've done this early if mafia.
This seems like a solid point to me, though following knockout it could be a well planned mafia move (from Aquarius and maybe croatia too). But I think this is a discussion for day 2.
Following my reasoning for lynching hillis I'll change my vote to lynch trekbmc who has been nearly inactive, which of course doesn't make him mafia, but also doesn't make him town. For now he doesn't seem to be helpful for either side. So there's not much risk in lynching him for the town, and if he is mafia we get rid of him before he can engage.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 18:15
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As of post #113 I make this the current situation
| Person | | Voting for | | Votes against | | trekbmc | | Hillis | | 2 | | Croatia14 | | Jseadog | | 0 | | knockout | | Aquarius | | 0 | | Ian Butler | | Aquarius | | 0 | | df_Trek | | Ryant | | 3 | | Marcovdw | | df_Trek | | 0 | | baseballlover312 | | Aquarius | | 0 | | Aquarius97 | | Trekbmc | | 4 | | ryant | | df_trek | | 1 | | jseadog1 | | Aquarius | | 2 | | hillis91 | | df_Trek | | 1 | | kandesbunzler26 | | trekbmc | | 0 | | sammyt93 | | jseadog | | 0 |
I personally still think Jseadog is mafia and he would be my preferred target, out of those with more or similar votes than him if not jseadog I would go with df_trek over aquarius as aquarius is at least giving the impression of trying to help and the train was started over a coincidedentally timed post by me and him yet me and knockout donig the same for posts #100 and #101 has been straight ignored so the basis of the aquarius train looks weak to me. The fact thaat is already stated by others meant I hoped I wouldn't have to mention it myself seeing as I feel linked to him in people's eyes by that first post even though we aren't.
And haven't seen enough posts by trek to get a read either way.
So to summarise my preference is Jseadog but I would switch to df_trek over aquarius if it was down to those 2 only due to how close we are to the deadline.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 18:17
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I need to leave mine in 20 minutes so that will be my last chance to change my vote before the deadline, I'm hoping to see some more input from others before then.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 18:33
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30 minutes
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 28-03-2019 18:37
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ryant wrote:
Fuck it I'm lynching df_trek rather he would get lynched over Aquarius and I believe if its 3 vs 3 then hillis would get lynched in the tie break? (Which obviously I don't want to happen and voting no one doesn't help Aquarius either)
Aquarius already had 4 votes at the time of posting, so either you miscounted or you're trying to get people off Aquarius by pointing out we might lynch a confirmed townie. As I said I consider Aquarius more probable to be mafia than df_trek, and I don't know what your supreme evidence is that Aquarius is definitely not mafia.
Lynch Aquarius and if he turns out to be mafia, ryant gets my vote tomorrow.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 28-03-2019 18:38
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Sorry, not miscounted but misinformed assuming you meant a tie between df_trek and hillis.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 28-03-2019 18:38
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jseadog1 wrote:
Is there even a set minute that it ends? Or will Jandal just do it at approximately the time he said. I don't remember seeing a hard time like 3 PM EST or 3:15 PM EST/EDT or anything like that?
Also for future reference I'll always set a hard deadline in the last two real life days of the day period, as close to exactly five days as I can, and I'd prefer if everyone stops after that point. I'll start the night as close as I can to then.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 28-03-2019 18:40
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Updated scoreboard
| Person | | Voting for | | Votes against | | trekbmc | | Hillis | | 2 | | Croatia14 | | Jseadog | | 0 | | knockout | | Aquarius | | 0 | | Ian Butler | | Aquarius | | 0 | | df_Trek | | Ryant | | 2 | | Marcovdw | | Aquarius | | 0 | | baseballlover312 | | Aquarius | | 0 | | Aquarius97 | | Trekbmc | | 5 | | ryant | | df_trek | | 1 | | jseadog1 | | Aquarius | | 2 | | hillis91 | | df_Trek | | 1 | | kandesbunzler26 | | trekbmc | | 0 | | sammyt93 | | jseadog | | 0 |
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