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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 25-08-2018 00:56
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Now that's funny, lets not kid ourselves, Azteca isn't here to win anything, just to give the youngsters some experience (sadly some of this lineup may be back next year...)
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| tastasol |
Posted on 25-08-2018 06:34
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And Kip takes the win! Cool to see a victory for an amateur team, makes you wonder why Kip wasn't picked up by any of the CT teams. Congrats to SotD 
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| Heine |
Posted on 25-08-2018 07:04
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And thats the reason we had a battle for him... Great win for Kip, well done to be the first amateur to win a stage.
There has to be quite a lot of CT teams regretting not getting him in either the draft or for 50k
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-08-2018 07:26
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That went perfect. He will surely cost points here and there too from his horrible backup stats, but taking the leaders Jersey, points Jersey and stagewin will surely give me an amateur division lead for a while, until someone make a lucky punch :-)
I have to hope for another couple of top 3's before he drops out of the race.
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 25-08-2018 07:54
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I see you Xuban. Breakaway and the youth jersey! And not sure what's more impressive: Robert Sweeting 7th or Alberto Contador last.
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Posted on 25-08-2018 08:49
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Timmy Dupont with a nice fourth place to start the season. Kip makes some CT managers regret already 
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 25-08-2018 08:50
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Heine wrote:
And thats the reason we had a battle for him... Great win for Kip, well done to be the first amateur to win a stage.
There has to be quite a lot of CT teams regretting not getting him in either the draft or for 50k
I think the main reason why teams were shy getting him was due to his stats other than SPR and ACC were subpar. Which is why teams aviod getting him.
I'd be honest Kip was part of my list, but my 7th choice
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-08-2018 09:16
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Timmy Dupont with a nice fourth place to start the season. Kip makes some CT managers regret already
The meaestro just getting warmed up 
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 25-08-2018 09:23
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Brus would be better off following wheels instead of having a train.
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| redordead |
Posted on 25-08-2018 09:29
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Happy to see Kip winning since we didn't bring our sprinters to Venezuela
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 25-08-2018 09:30
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Mark Christian in the breakaway, saved my say.
Nice one for Kip and Ya as a CT manager must admit you have to wonder.
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| Bjartne |
Posted on 25-08-2018 09:35
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Hmm, Breschel with a top 10 in the sprint was better than expected, but I was really hoping to see us in the breakaway as we're underdogs for this race. I expect us to be more agressive in the next few days!
Cool to see amateur-Kip taking the win here, he's not getting that many pancake-flat chances throughout the year, so happy for him to take this
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 25-08-2018 09:41
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Congrats, SotD. Jones tried, but he really won't do anything if he isn't in a +5 day.. So.. Breakaways, huhm? Please!
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 25-08-2018 10:04
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Cool to see youngster Baterdene at the front for the first time leading out Von Hoff! He almost did it perfectly as well!! Nice finish for Kip! Great to take 2nd though and perhaps tomorrow we can go 1 step up!
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-08-2018 10:45
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ivaneurope wrote:
Heine wrote:
And thats the reason we had a battle for him... Great win for Kip, well done to be the first amateur to win a stage.
There has to be quite a lot of CT teams regretting not getting him in either the draft or for 50k
I think the main reason why teams were shy getting him was due to his stats other than SPR and ACC were subpar. Which is why teams aviod getting him.
I'd be honest Kip was part of my list, but my 7th choice
If planned well enough I think Kip can be a great CT rider. I acknowledge the fact that he has some horrible overall stats, but 69FL, 80SPR, 82ACC and 75PRL is just too good to not sign imo. Of course if you have a better sprinter already he will not be smart to sign, but just for C2 races like this he will almost always be a 3 star favorite, and while he will hit'n'miss quite often, he will also get it right from time to time. And with 75PRL he might even get a good GC here and there also.
It could be the one time he got it right, though, but 16 points here is equal to ending up 8th in the GC, and I'd like to believe he won't be done scoring a bit of points here. If he doesn't win anything more, but still get into the mix, I'd say he should end up on atleast 25 points which is similar to 5th in the GC.
But maybe i'm looking at this too much from an amateur team point of view. Imo he was easily the best pick of the rest, as he was the only rider you could actually plan on getting points from, while the rest needed to be lucky with opponents or breakaways.
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-08-2018 10:56
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Bjartne wrote:
Cool to see amateur-Kip taking the win here, he's not getting that many pancake-flat chances throughout the year, so happy for him to take this
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And 7 prologues/epilogues.
The season was planned around him mainly, so the goal is to land him at around top 50 in the individual ranking, which would require 122 points if last seasons list is anything to go by. He scored 48 points last season, but with already having 16 I think it's realistic to beat that. Julien Simon scored 102 last season (but was slightly better), if he can score half that I'll be very happy.
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Congrats, SotD. Jones tried, but he really won't do anything if he isn't in a +5 day.. So.. Breakaways, huhm? Please!
That was why I went for Kip and not one of the other sprinters. It would suck to see the team trusting a sprinter who then takes a 7-8th here and there rather than just going for breaks.
Can't wait to see whether having Kip will completely destroy my team in hills and mountains though... If they wait for him, all will be lost
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| Vien |
Posted on 25-08-2018 10:58
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SotD wrote:
Julien Simon scored 102 last season (but was slightly better), if he can score half that I'll be very happy.
Simon almost would've scored double of that if he didn't crash on the final Benelux stage. So that's a very achievable goal  |
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-08-2018 11:04
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Vien wrote:
SotD wrote:
Julien Simon scored 102 last season (but was slightly better), if he can score half that I'll be very happy.
Simon almost would've scored double of that if he didn't crash on the final Benelux stage. So that's a very achievable goal
We don't have a lot of suitable races for him though. Jelajah SKL, Tour of South Africa and Tour de San Luis are basically the races for him. Otherwise he might content for a few points here, in Cyprus and Japan. So 50 will probably be his limit reach.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 25-08-2018 12:58
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Top 3, i aint mad
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 25-08-2018 15:42
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Azteca got a point! Already an incredibly successful race for us!
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