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Blueprint
Getting increasingly fed up with the bugs in the planner, really spoiling the game experience for me.
 
Blueprint
Despite of the glitches in form and fatigue, still playing with Bahrain-Merida, if only to make it through a season and discover how the transfer market works.

Started well with a stage win and GC victory for Gasparotto in the Tour Down Under, followed by the same for Nibali in Abu Dhabi (sponsor goal) and Tirreno-Adriatico, where Nibali even won two stages. Mohoric proved to be an amazing helper in all these races. Ion Izagirre got a solid 5th place in Paris-Nice and Colbrelli sprinted to 6th in Sanremo. Colbrelli then went to compensate a disappointing Belgian opening weekend with 4th in E3 Harelbeke, a strong victory in Gent-Wevelgem thanks to a perfect leadout of Haussler, another victory in Dwars door Vlaanderen and 9th in the Ronde van Vlaanderen, directly behind Haussler, who had a super day.

Sent a weak team to Catalunya, so no results there, but also in Pais Vasco, I failed to deliver. Nibali barely got top-20 and Ion Izagirre failed miserably, while he was supposed to be at his best here. Not sure if it's the simulation, the fitness/fatigue bug or a combination of both, but it kinda sucked. Hoping for better results in the Ardennes, where Nibali and Gasparotto share the leadership. But first Roubaix, let's see what Colbrelli and Haussler can do in hell...

In the meantime, I've also looked at the team and noticed that we have a lot of old guys with a contract ending in 2018 (Pellizotti already announced his retirement), so there might be some big changes in the team. Sponsor contract is ending too, so let's see what kind of offers we will get. Bahrain-Merida is quite happy with the results so far and they are excited to have Nibali in so many important races.

Okay, so Roubaix was a disaster. A group of 14 outsiders got the blessing of the favourites and we were unable to close the gap. No one in the top-25 as a result...
Edited by Blueprint on 15-08-2018 22:36
 
Blueprint
Overview of the most important races so far:

Tour Down UnderE. GasparottoJ. McCarthyA. Valverde
Paris-NiceM. KwiatkowskiC. FroomeR. Uran
Tirreno-AdriaticoV. NibaliG. ThomasD. Caruso
Milano-SanremoP. SaganM. MatthewsC. Ewan
Volta a CatalunyaG. BennettR. PorteM. Landa
E3 HarelbekeP. SaganJ. StuyvenO. Naesen
Gent-WevelgemS. ColbrelliA. KristoffO. Naesen
Ronde van VlaanderenP. SaganN. TerpstraA. Kristoff
Vuelta al Pais VascoR. PorteW. KeldermanR. Bardet
Paris-RoubaixA. DemareD. GroenewegenM. Breschel
 
TiemenD
Looks you either win, or finish outside the top 3 :-)
 
Blueprint
TiemenD wrote:
Looks you either win, or finish outside the top 3 :-)


Unfortunately, this all-or-nothing streak has now ended Wink
 
Vostok
Are people still playing PCM 2015? I was thinking about sharing my story from the game. Smile
 
SDucro
Is there a way to make sure your riders want to join the national team?
I have 3 created riders in my team (myself and two of my friends), all of them have the world chamionship as a target in there season and their form will peak end of september.
Yet all 3 of them refused to join the national team.
 
Burner99
SDucro wrote:
Is there a way to make sure your riders want to join the national team?
I have 3 created riders in my team (myself and two of my friends), all of them have the world chamionship as a target in there season and their form will peak end of september.
Yet all 3 of them refused to join the national team.


You can use an editor for that. Go to the cyclist category and search for the column "gene_i_selected_nat_team". There you have to insert the value 4.
 
Grandpa
How to plan a Season ? When I'm planning it , there is no problem but the further I go into the Season my riders are extremely tired when they should be on there top form ?

Sorry for my bad english ^^
Be fair to everyone and have a good life.
 
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Grandpa wrote:
How to plan a Season ? When I'm planning it , there is no problem but the further I go into the Season my riders are extremely tired when they should be on there top form ?

Sorry for my bad english ^^


The easiest tip to avoid a big part of that problem: if your rider is on a training break week, don't put him in ANY races. The entire fatigue loss effect will be negated with even just a single race day.

A good way to ensure that is to find a week every 6 or so weeks in which your team doesn't ride any races, and put all riders on a break then. That obviously gets tough in WT because of mandatory invitations, but it avoids micromanagement.
 
Blueprint
Grandpa wrote:
How to plan a Season ? When I'm planning it , there is no problem but the further I go into the Season my riders are extremely tired when they should be on there top form ?

Sorry for my bad english ^^


You might have encountered the same bug as I did, which is extremely annoying (just ruined my Giro for example). What you can do, is keep an eye on unexpected fatigue in the Planner and use a weekly save to get to a point before that happened.

See my bug report for more details:
https://pcmdaily....st_1308572
 
Blueprint
Ups and downs in my career. Giro and Dauphiné ruined by fatigue bug, Amstel by my own tactical mistakes, but I'm very happy with my transfers, Nibali's TdF stage win and the sponsorship renewal. Also scored some national jerseys with Nibali taking the double, Ion Izagirre taking the Spanish time trial and Mohoric being successful in Slovenia. Unfortunately, Ion will have to be without his brother again next year, but he really didn't want to stay.

Transfers out: Pellizotti, Siutsou, Visconti, Wang, Bozic, Bole, Gasparotto, G. Izagirre, Haussler, Novak, Arashiro, Agnoli

Transfers in: Van Aert, Pogacar, Ulissi, Carapaz, S. Kragh Andersen, Polanc, Consonni, Tratnik, Cink, Örken, Polimeno, Cervero

My main goals were to rejuvenate the team and strengthen the squad for the cobbled classics, while keeping up the Italian/Slovenian identity of the team. Polimeno (Italian sprinter) and Cervero (Spanish puncher) are generated talents, looking forward to develop their talent.

Some more important results:

Amstel Gold RaceM. KwiatkowskiM. Valgren AndersenA. Valverde
Fleche WallonneF. AruM. MohoricB. Jungels
Liege-Bastogne-LiegeD. MartinJ. AlaphilippeM. Kwiatkowski
Tour de RomandieM. LandaC. FroomeG. Thomas
Giro d'ItaliaP. RoglicM. LandaW. Kelderman
Criterium du DauphineC. FroomeM. KwiatkowskiT. Dumoulin
Tour de SuisseA. YatesR. PorteG. Thomas
Tour de FranceC. FroomeT. DumoulinV. Nibali
Tour de PologneD. PozzovivoG. MühlbergerD. Howson
Clasica San SebastianD. MartinR. CostaT. Wellens


Fleche Wallonne was a weird race with lots of crashes and Aru crashed out of the Giro in the maglia rosa. Glad that Pozzovivo managed to avenge his failed Giro and Dauphiné, let's hope for a good Vuelta.
 
Blueprint
And the season is done. Sponsor is happy, while I think we could have done better, so there is room for improvement. Of course, Nibali's WC win was extremely exciting with an animated race and a decisive attack in the last downhill section. Tried pulling off the same trick in Lombardia, but Nibali's rivals were more alert and he had to settle for 6th in a sprint of 9. All in all, the results are fairly realistic, especially in the races that I played myself. Simulation could still use some improvement.

Main goal for the next season is to be more alert to planning/fatigue bugs (partially by planning more conservatively), make better use of Colbrelli's qualities and hopefully have an interesting cobbles campaign with new recruit Van Aert. Pozzovivo should also do better than 11th in the Giro and 8th in the Vuelta.

BinckBank TourB. JungelsP. SaganG. van Avermaet
EuroEyes CyclassicsP. AckermannM. RichezeM. Cavendish
Bretagne ClassicB. CoquardC. EwanS. Colbrelli
GP QuebecP. SaganD. RosaS. Pauwels
GP MontrealD. MartinD. RosaM. Debesay
Vuelta a EspañaG. ThomasM. LopezA. Valverde
UCI Word Championships ITTG. ThomasT. MartinJ. Castroviejo
UCI Word Championships RRV. NibaliP. RoglicM. Kwiatkowski
Il LombardiaT. WellensJ. AlaphilippeA. Yates
 
Dusen
Any feedback from Cyanide on when this planning bug will be fixed?
 
gargatouf
Is it not possible to negotiate the sponsors objectives anymore?

I created a strong custom team (an all French team with the 30 best riders possible) just so I can play th game for a couple of seasons and get used to it. But in my first season, My sponsors have asked me to finish 1st at Paris-Nice, Tirreno, Romandie, Dauphiné, Tour and finish in the top 3 of the Vuelta. I wanted to negotiatw a few of them down but I don’t have the option anymore.
 
Blueprint
gargatouf wrote:
Is it not possible to negotiate the sponsors objectives anymore?

I created a strong custom team (an all French team with the 30 best riders possible) just so I can play th game for a couple of seasons and get used to it. But in my first season, My sponsors have asked me to finish 1st at Paris-Nice, Tirreno, Romandie, Dauphiné, Tour and finish in the top 3 of the Vuelta. I wanted to negotiatw a few of them down but I don’t have the option anymore.


Looks like this is indeed no longer possible, unless you edit your savegame.
 
SDucro
How do you guys deal with the belgian classics? (Liege-bastogne-liege etc. )
when I play them the favorites tend to just get away in the end, I might be right in their wheel but suddenly at the top they just get away and have a 30 sec gap.
simulating them is also very random so I try to avoid that. my best riders have 77-78 hills and my sponsors want me to get top 5.
 
bassiii
SDucro wrote:
How do you guys deal with the belgian classics? (Liege-bastogne-liege etc. )
when I play them the favorites tend to just get away in the end, I might be right in their wheel but suddenly at the top they just get away and have a 30 sec gap.
simulating them is also very random so I try to avoid that. my best riders have 77-78 hills and my sponsors want me to get top 5.


Isn't that what should be happening when an 82 hill rider attacks a 77 hill rider?
 
moromete
Yes, it is relatively hard to get good places in a spring hilly classic with 77-78 riders but there are things you can do: try to make sure they are peaking in terms of form, to get some solid bonuses; assemble a solid team and keep your leaders protected at all times, with a solid riders always riding tempo at the front, ready to bring back attacks that matter; make sure that you know who's attack can be ignored and who really matters (although this is hard in the heat of the race).

When a powerful group of favorites tries to go and you no longer have riders to brings them back try to reach them with your leader (who is preferably still protected) and then it is a matter of careful use of the red and yellow bars as the attacks go on the final climbs. That is a bit of a lottery but I have managed to win Amstel and Liege with Felline, who is never a favorite for those races.
 
w3t_
I find hilly stages especially easy to win: The AI does not take downhill parts into account when sprinting/attacking. Always make sure to ride into the hill with good speed (set the rider on manual 90-95), this will give him some extra distance into the hill already. I also like to do trains with my whole team into hills.
Played Valgren with 79 hills mostly. Won Amstel (no fitness peak) and half of the hill stages at the TDF (with fitness peak) on exceptional. I find sprinting way harder (against the likes of Kittel and Gaviria). Their stats on exceptional are just brutal.
 
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