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WorldDB 2018: Largest PCM Database (v2.01)
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| TiemenD |
Posted on 07-08-2018 10:41
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@Benji you are talking about the game's 'extensive growth for young riders' isn't it possible to edit some of the cyclist progression through the "STA_cyclist_progression" table, so you can have a bit of impact without the need of editing XML files?
Edited by TiemenD on 07-08-2018 10:42
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 07-08-2018 10:41
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Thieske99 wrote:
Can someone upload the DB to this site? as I have not installed the game using steam.
Thanks in advance!
Thieske, sorry but we don't support pirated versions of the game. Hence why an online version of the database will not happen. |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 07-08-2018 10:46
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TiemenD wrote:
@Benji you are taling about the game's 'extensive growth for young riders' isn't it possible to edit some of the cyclist progression through the "STA_cyclist_progression" table, so you can have a bit of impact without the need of editing XML files?
It is, but the growth is still super extensive. We tested it for the last week with around 20 careers at different settings in that row, and riders like Carapaz, Soler and others keep on growing at relatively the same pace. We'll search further for a potential solution. |
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| TiemenD |
Posted on 09-08-2018 09:19
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BenjiNaesen wrote:
TiemenD wrote:
@Benji you are taling about the game's 'extensive growth for young riders' isn't it possible to edit some of the cyclist progression through the "STA_cyclist_progression" table, so you can have a bit of impact without the need of editing XML files?
It is, but the growth is still super extensive. We tested it for the last week with around 20 careers at different settings in that row, and riders like Carapaz, Soler and others keep on growing at relatively the same pace. We'll search further for a potential solution.
Can you confirm that it has some effect if you change the values in STA_Cyclist_Progression? (in the database, not the savegame I've read somewhere)
or did you test point out that it was pretty useless and there was no effect? |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 09-08-2018 12:07
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TiemenD wrote:
BenjiNaesen wrote:
TiemenD wrote:
@Benji you are taling about the game's 'extensive growth for young riders' isn't it possible to edit some of the cyclist progression through the "STA_cyclist_progression" table, so you can have a bit of impact without the need of editing XML files?
It is, but the growth is still super extensive. We tested it for the last week with around 20 careers at different settings in that row, and riders like Carapaz, Soler and others keep on growing at relatively the same pace. We'll search further for a potential solution.
Can you confirm that it has some effect if you change the values in STA_Cyclist_Progression? (in the database, not the savegame I've read somewhere)
or did you test point out that it was pretty useless and there was no effect?
We tested with two people and got different results to be honest. His had slight effects, I noticed no difference, we both had the same potentials and no random potential selected. I feel like it's not worth changing it just for a small change that is hardly noticeable. |
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| Lofkvist |
Posted on 09-08-2018 13:41
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@Benji
Thanks for all your effort.
But i have a few questions.
Why do almost all drivers of the new Conti teams only have a potential of 2? Never will be a rider of these teams a world star or a pro tour rider. All this rider will get a max. Stat of 68 or so. This is not realistic. I hope you will change this later.
Why is almost everywhere the photo abbreviation of the new driver missing. Why was so little emphasis placed on realistic stats of small team riders?
( strongs and weaks of the individual driver).
The DB is really big, this is great ,but for all those who prefer to play with small Conti teams unfortunately with this rider Stats not to recommend.
Sry my english is so bad. I hope you understand.
Greetings |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 09-08-2018 14:01
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Lofkvist wrote:
@Benji
Thanks for all your effort.
But i have a few questions.
Why do almost all drivers of the new Conti teams only have a potential of 2? Never will be a rider of these teams a world star or a pro tour rider. All this rider will get a max. Stat of 68 or so. This is not realistic. I hope you will change this later.
Why is almost everywhere the photo abbreviation of the new driver missing. Why was so little emphasis placed on realistic stats of small team riders?
( strongs and weaks of the individual driver).
The DB is really big, this is great ,but for all those who prefer to play with small Conti teams unfortunately with this rider Stats not to recommend.
Sry my english is so bad. I hope you understand.
Greetings
1. Potential doesn't make a rider grow until a certain statistic, what it does is slow down the growth. Rider like Pogacar and Rajovic and Evenepoel or whatever do have higher than 2 because they deserve to grow faster compared to Poursavanth for example. But yes, this is currently being reworked, valid point.
We're actually doubting to drop the max potential to 6 because the extensive growth is literally insane in PCM this year.
2. ProCyclistPhoto's are almost done for the next update. (takes a while to do and is boring af  ) The thing is, that is an update that isn't that urgent because ProCyclistPhoto updates fix in running careers and saves, hence we first wanted the teams and riders in. Now we are optimizing them when it comes to stats and attributes, and then we optimize the graphical side of things.  WorldDB's are never finished, we keep working on it, with 30 people at the moment whenever we have some free time.
3. The attributes were done according to their recent results. Whenever someone gives us a suggestion, we look into deepening the stats of that rider. Feel free to do so here: https://discord.g...
We are currently optimizing them division by division so your input is very welcome. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 09-08-2018 15:22
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When did potential change? Wasn't it always determining the max stats of a rider when launching a career, and the speed was determined by the evolution of attributes setting?
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 09-08-2018 16:52
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baseballlover312 wrote:
When did potential change? Wasn't it always determining the max stats of a rider when launching a career, and the speed was determined by the evolution of attributes setting?
It all depends on the age and current attribute. For example a climber with 21 age, 77 mo but only 5 potential, will not become 85 (I hope), but can become 82/83 in no time.
It doesn't have a fixed limit like Lofkvist thought but has a limit relative to its current age and potential and current stats, because obviously Horner with 6 potential can't go back t 85 either at the age of 46..
A rider with potential 6 or 7 like a Remco Evenepoel, will start at 60's or so in stats and in our database in 70+ in season 2 due to the high potential.
Ofcourse that setting you talk about can speed or slow down the process. But as a database creator we can't force users to use a setting hence we focus on the default setting for our testing. |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 09-08-2018 18:00
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Btw, as an add-on to the previous discussion on why we put 83 as max attribute, with room to grow till 85. If you do a pro cyclist on a database lower than 83 max stat, you're pretty much playing on easy since you'll outgrow them in no time. Pro Cyclist limits are hardcoded, no xml's for that to fix it.
And again, baseballlover312. Potential never changed, the guy who first explained it to everyone probably didn't know it, hence why everyone had false information on it. Now we know how it actually works. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 09-08-2018 19:11
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All makes sense. Thanks for the info.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 09-08-2018 20:29
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Btw, the Nebur guy in our Discord explained it perfectly under #pcm-general. As scroll up there and you'll be enlightened. |
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| QQutec |
Posted on 12-08-2018 18:29
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missing logos/mini Shirts . Just me ?
https://www.pic-u...d.png.html
https://www.pic-u...t.png.html |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-08-2018 18:31
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It's because Steam is updating the database for you guys. Just released a huge update adding all UCI continental teams. Just close the game. Check under downloads on steam when it's done and then start
Your timing was excellent ^^ |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-08-2018 18:35
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We just released a huge update adding the last missing continental teams. We now have all UCI continental teams.
FULL LIST OF CHANGES: https://discord.g... |
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| ImthebestCoach |
Posted on 13-08-2018 11:14
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Nice work |
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| TiemenD |
Posted on 13-08-2018 17:39
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Great work on the database |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 14-08-2018 11:01
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@TiemenD and @ImthebestCoach
Thanks! More updates coming soon.
You can read what will change in the coming update here: https://discord.g... |
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| Grandpa |
Posted on 15-08-2018 07:04
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can you add a Picture for McNulty ?
Roglic is a bit OP he only got 4th in the TdF but destroys everything in my career.
Edited by Grandpa on 15-08-2018 07:26
Be fair to everyone and have a good life.
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 15-08-2018 10:57
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Grandpa wrote:
can you add a Picture for McNulty ?
Roglic is a bit OP he only got 4th in the TdF but destroys everything in my career.
Yes, we can add a picture of McNulty. |
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