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Updated DB and Training List 2018
SportingNonsense
Here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpa76y9t3gp...B.xls?dl=0

v1: https://www.dropb...B.xls?dl=0
v1 includes Amateur teams and changes until 06/08

All changes from transfers have now been applied.

And the training list is:
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TeamFirst NameSurnameSkillOld StatNew StatCost
Aegon - LavazzaOlivierDaanMountain7980€ 1,200,000
Aegon - LavazzaGroenewegenDylanMountain5961€ 300,000
Aegon - LavazzaDe BieSeanHill8283€ 2,000,000
Aegon - LavazzaDe BieSeanDownhill6465€ 100,000
Air France - KLMKamyshevArmanAcceleration5859€ 100,000
Air France - KLMKamyshevArmanAcceleration5960€ 200,000
Air France - KLMQuintanaNairoAcceleration6566€ 100,000
Aker - MOTBeltranEduard AlexanderHill7980€ 1,200,000
Aker - MOTBeltranEduard AlexanderHill8081€ 1,400,000
Aker - MOTGaltaFredrik StrandAcceleration6263€ 100,000
Aker - MOTGaltaFredrik StrandAcceleration6364€ 200,000
Ayubowan!PushpakumaraGihanHill7374€ 450,000
Ayubowan!McCarthyJaySprint6465€ 100,000
Azteca - NBCSNEastmanRyanTimeTrial7576€ 700,000
Azteca - NBCSNEastmanRyanMountain8081€ 1,400,000
Azteca - NBCSNChavesJohan EstebanSprint5758€ 100,000
Bennelong - MitcheltonMortonLachlanMountain8384€ 2,300,000
Bennelong - MitcheltonMortonLachlanAcceleration6667€ 150,000
Campari - Super DryRosaDiegoResistance6869€ 350,000
DesigualAlturMarcosCobble8081€ 1,400,000
DesigualAlturMarcosDownhill6263€ 100,000
DesigualMaksimovRomanHill5859€ 100,000
DesigualMaksimovRomanHill5960€ 200,000
DesigualTenorioJustoAcceleration6667€ 150,000
EA VesuvioVan der LijkeNickSprint8081€ 1,400,000
EA VesuvioVan der LijkeNickHill7576€ 850,000
eBuddyGrosuEduardSprint8283€ 2,000,000
eBuddyVan PoppelDannySprint8081€ 1,400,000
Eddie StobartMeyerTravisHill7879€ 1,000,000
ENI - MOLPomoshnikovSergeiMountain7879€ 1,000,000
ENI - MOLDi MaggioCesareSprint6465€ 100,000
Evonik - ELKOVan StayenMichaelSprint8384€ 2,300,000
Festina - DexiaCoquardBryanSprint8283€ 2,000,000
Festina - DexiaCoquardBryanSprint8384€ 2,300,000
Festina - DexiaVlatosPanagiotisHill6466€ 350,000
Festina - DexiaChamorroJuan ErnestoTT6465€ 100,000
Festina - DexiaKoretzkyClementTT6162€ 100,000
GazelleTeunissenMikeHill6566€ 125,000
GazelleFormoloDavideDownhill6364€ 100,000
GazelleMadrazoAngelSprint6263€ 100,000
GCN ProTeamNgandambaGeoffroyCobbles7374€ 450,000
Generali - EDFEdwardTheunsCOB7677€ 700,000
Generali - EDFEdwardTheunsCOB7778€ 850,000
Generali - EDFPrimozRoglicMO7980€ 1,200,000
Grieg - EftelWisniowskiLukaszCobbles7980€ 1,200,000
Hugo BossSlagterTom JelteHills7879€ 1,000,000
Hugo BossAlarconJoseTT6667€ 150,000
Hugo BossCarapazRichard AntonioAcceleration6465€ 100,000
Iberia - Team DegenkolbIzagirreIonHill7980€ 1,200,000
Iberia - Team DegenkolbIzagirreIonAcceleration6364€ 100,000
Iberia - Team DegenkolbInsaustiJon AnderHill6364€ 100,000
Isostar SlovenijaMarkoKumpSprint8081€ 1,400,000
Isostar SlovenijaMarkoKumpHill7677€ 1,000,000
Kulczyk - DMTEXBarbinEnricoAcceleration7576€ 600,000
Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeamWaeytensZicoHill7980€ 1,200,000
Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeamWaeytensZicoTT6465€ 100,000
Meiji - JR EastShikaiChenAcceleration6566€ 125,000
Meiji - JR EastHayakawaTomohiroHill6465€ 100,000
Moser - SygicBarguilWarrenMountain7980€ 1,200,000
Moser - SygicBarguilWarrenMountain8081€ 1,400,000
Nordstrom - BioWareDavideVillellaMountain6465€ 100,000
Nordstrom - BioWareAlexDowsettTime Trial6364€ 100,000
Novatek-Panarmenian.netSchreursMauriceTT6667€ 150,000
Philips - ContinentalNavardauskasRamunasHill7475€ 500,000
Podium AmbitionMatthewsDarrenCobbles7374€ 450,000
Podium AmbitionMatthewsDarrenCobbles7475€ 500,000
Porto - PrioReisRafaelMountain8081€ 1,400,000
RBC Pro CyclingHouleHugoSprint7879€ 1,000,000
SPAR - Shimano - SCGGueraoÓscarHILL6465€ 100,000
Team Popo4Ever p/b NemiroffPrevarOleksandrHill7879€ 1,000,000
Team Puma - SAPDemareArnaudSprint8081€ 1,400,000
Team Puma - SAPDemareArnaudSprint8182€ 1,700,000
Team RedditZmorkaMarlenHIL6566€ 125,000
Team RedditMeyerCameronHIL6162€ 100,000
Team TinkoffNovikovNikitaMountain7677€ 700,000
Team UBSSchellingPatrickTime trial7172€ 600,000
Team UBSSchellingPatrickMountain7980€ 1,200,000
Team UBSDillierSilvanHill6364€ 100,000
Team UBSReichenbachSebastienSprint6263€ 100,000
T-MobilePreidlerGeorgMountain7879€ 1,000,000
Valio - DeLavalKulppiOlliCobble7677€ 700,000
Volvo acc. by SpotifyStallaertJoeriCobble7980€ 1,200,000
Volvo acc. by SpotifyStallaertJoeriCobble8081€ 1,400,000
World Cycling CentreBerhaneNatnaelTT6566€ 125,000

Please check your team, and let me or roturn know if anything is wrong.
 
baseballlover312
Some very interesting trainings this year, and some very scary ones, like always! Happy most of the cobbles guys aren't in PCT, but certainly life won't be easier with all these!

Unfortunately I've never had the money or ranking security to even consider training, but clearly it can pay off big time. Maybe some day!

Personal favorite of mine is seeing Kulppi to 77. Should really help him lead in CT where the competition has gotten insane.
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Eden95
PCT is definitely interesting - usually there's one or two teams I look at and think "yep, they're definitely promoting" but I can't seem to find a team like that here. There's definitely a few great teams that'll all be up there in the promotion fight though. The division seems much closer than it has in previous years.
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Very interesting trainings, and even more to see some I thought would be secure trainings, not happening. Something like Degenkolb 85SPR. Looking at how many riders Iberia have sold I find it somewhat amazing that they haven't managed to secure enough for him to level up. But I definately can't complain as that effectively puts Coquard up among the top 3 sprinters in the world, well maybe sometimes just 4th. Also Michael van Stayen should become even more of a beast this season! What a rider...

What also strikes me is the amount of money thrown into training random riders. I sure do hope that they are long term projects, or so important in terms of nationality (or similar) for the teams, because otherwise I could have spotted significantly better ways to spend 500K+.

It will be very interesting to see what the training does to riders such as Morton, Olivier, De Bie, Beltran, Barguil, Demare, Schelling and Stallaert.
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SotD
Eden95 wrote:
PCT is definitely interesting - usually there's one or two teams I look at and think "yep, they're definitely promoting" but I can't seem to find a team like that here. There's definitely a few great teams that'll all be up there in the promotion fight though. The division seems much closer than it has in previous years.


Looking at the choices of PTHC bands, I would put Iberia very high. I don't know what they can perform at lower level, but they will score extremely well at PTHC level, probably even winning 3-4 of them outright.
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roturn
A bit annoying to see Van Stayen onl yat -4rd in comparison to Swift. Angry
Let`s hope their schedules at least only clash half of the race days.

Would make it more Coquard vs. Swift more regular while Degenkolb also got some wildcards.

Other than that the usual opponents with Bewley, Ahlstrand, Ciolek maybe, Demare/Van der Lijke/Kump maybe more this yaer.

Groenewegen should struggle more but still belongs to the top sprinters.


De Bie now in the top5 area, while Olivier/Dekker will still have to fight for a top10.
 
Atlantius
Looks like we will have some good battles in CT with fairly equally matched leaders on all terrains.

Also no Icelandic champion appointed Sad
I would really love if that could happen. Letting Omarsson keep the titles, giving Brynjolfsson the title for doing best on the road last season or just tossing a coin doesn't matter. I would just really like the jersey to be allowed on the road.

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SotD
roturn wrote:
A bit annoying to see Van Stayen onl yat -4rd in comparison to Swift. Angry
Let`s hope their schedules at least only clash half of the race days.

Would make it more Coquard vs. Swift more regular while Degenkolb also got some wildcards.

Other than that the usual opponents with Bewley, Ahlstrand, Ciolek maybe, Demare/Van der Lijke/Kump maybe more this yaer.

Groenewegen should struggle more but still belongs to the top sprinters.


De Bie now in the top5 area, while Olivier/Dekker will still have to fight for a top10.


Don't forget 83SPR Grosu either. He should be very strong...
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tsmoha
Quite some sprinters trained, Howard ain't amused Smile

Barguil on 81 MO will be pretty interesting, good move, imo. And of course I kinda like the Travis Meyer move up to 79 HI! He should become a great CT rider, if planned right. Counting on you, sutty Wink
 
Eden95
Atlantius wrote:
Looks like we will have some good battles in CT with fairly equally matched leaders on all terrains.

Also no Icelandic champion appointed Sad
I would really love if that could happen. Letting Omarsson keep the titles, giving Brynjolfsson the title for doing best on the road last season or just tossing a coin doesn't matter. I would just really like the jersey to be allowed on the road.


To add to NC's (not sure if they've been properly addressed yet. If not, ignore this.), Robin Manulang is only listed as RR NC, when he's a dual champion.
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viking90
Hopefully I will not regret training Stallaert to 81 COB instead of Ahlstrand to 84 Smile

Otherwise some interesting training by other teams.
 
roturn
viking90 wrote:
Hopefully I will not regret training Stallaert to 81 COB instead of Ahlstrand to 84 Smile

Otherwise some interesting training by other teams.

I like Stallaert training a lot more and not only saying this as I ignore cobbles while 84 Ahlstrand would be a big opponent more.

Think Stallaert has a great combination now for big scoring.
 
Heine
I Have to say, this season looks to be a lot more balanced than usual, very hard to say "that team is best" and great to see some very interesting trainings. I love what Roturn have done, but also other trainings, looking at Kump/Demare/MvS we are going to see a really exciting Milan-San Remo...

Pro Tour:
With both Festina and Moser regressing a bit, and other getting stronger we are in for a tight season I believe. I love the looks on some of the teams, like Air France (EBH looking really sexy there), Hugo Boss (Kristoff looks like a perfect piece) and Aker with all their leaders. This should also be THE season for Puma, if they don't make a real push now their team will soon fall into real big cap trouble.

PCT:
Many reall interesting teams, and about 10 than could realistically fight for promotion. How will Popo do with their big leader? Philips looks lik a really interesting team. Novatek with some high main stat riders, but will their weaknesses drag them down? Nordstrom crazy hill depth. Meji's Asian riders looking really good (Choi and Shikai acc weakness, but Kinoshita should have a great season this year)! Indosat looking really good. How will Iberia do? Lots of pressure on Degenkolb/Blythe/Izagirre. And many more teams can fight for it! My main guess is Ayubowan! without diving deeper into it. I really like the Monsalve/Yates/McCarthy combo

CT:
Even harder for me having never been here, but many good teams and interesting builds. I set Valio is my favorite to win this division, Gautier/Manninen/König is a great trio, and good depth aswell.
 
knockout
SotD wrote:
Very interesting trainings, and even more to see some I thought would be secure trainings, not happening. Something like Degenkolb 85SPR. Looking at how many riders Iberia have sold I find it somewhat amazing that they haven't managed to secure enough for him to level up. But I definately can't complain as that effectively puts Coquard up among the top 3 sprinters in the world, well maybe sometimes just 4th. Also Michael van Stayen should become even more of a beast this season! What a rider...

What also strikes me is the amount of money thrown into training random riders. I sure do hope that they are long term projects, or so important in terms of nationality (or similar) for the teams, because otherwise I could have spotted significantly better ways to spend 500K+.

It will be very interesting to see what the training does to riders such as Morton, Olivier, De Bie, Beltran, Barguil, Demare, Schelling and Stallaert.


Pretty much this. Much better for me than i expected. Van Stayen is now very close to the top sprinters with guys like Ahlstrandt or Degenkolb not receiving the expected training. (I do think that the Stallaert training is interesting though). Coquard the only one to overtake MVS as a sprinter while Demare and Grosu had to be expected. For the cobbles Stallaert and Wisniowski with interesting trainin getting closer to Greg for the season but noone really overtaking him is good.
De Bie is getting closer to Skujins but should still be weaker while Beltran only annoys me for the future when Lopez will be beasty because he's becoming a similar rider. No huge mountain training is interesting too as Dombo or Phinney could be sick with some training. not that i care too much about that Pfft

I like it.
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Heine
knockout wrote:

No huge mountain training is interesting too as Dombo or Phinney could be sick with some training. not that i care too much about that Pfft




This I really like ;-) Phinney 85 Mon scares me
 
beagle
I don´t like to see so many sprinters improving Pfft

Btw how is it possible Festina riders got 6 trainings when 5 only is allowed?
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roturn
beagle wrote:
I don´t like to see so many sprinters improving Pfft

Btw how is it possible Festina riders got 6 trainings when 5 only is allowed?

Team trainings were allowed more than 5.

Just rider training with a max of 2.

Was changed at one point.
 
alexkr00
I think both Dombrowski and Phinney are doing just fine with their current stats Pfft

I'm really interested to see if Van Poppel's training will make him more relevant in the sprints. With Gesink gone, I have to turn to him and Gerts for Dutch leadership.
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jt1109
Heine wrote:
knockout wrote:

No huge mountain training is interesting too as Dombo or Phinney could be sick with some training. not that i care too much about that Pfft




This I really like ;-) Phinney 85 Mon scares me


He wouldn't be able to go to all the TT heavy stage races then though and with one GT massive on TT this season thought it best to wait until next year when Herklotz gets trained.

Though looking at the great job some teams have done I can see myself being in a big relegation scrap this year Phinney or no Phinney
 
roturn
alexkr00 wrote:
I think both Dombrowski and Phinney are doing just fine with their current stats Pfft

I'm really interested to see if Van Poppel's training will make him more relevant in the sprints. With Gesink gone, I have to turn to him and Gerts for Dutch leadership.

With Gesink gone I guess the fight between our teams with Dutch leaders is getting more interesting.

Just somehow must get rid of this Kelderman guy. Pfft
 
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