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Tour de France 2018 | Stage 19
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| Vali |
Posted on 27-07-2018 19:45
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df_Trek wrote:
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In the end I am very glad that Thomas wins in that way Pantani will stay unmatched for a couple of more years. While the Giro-Tour double certainly looked well within reach for Froome (and in hindsight, also Dumoulin), the odds to do it won't be so good anytime soon, imo (competition-wise, recuperation time etc)
mmmh, i didn't see Froome so good for the tour, and he is getting older too, there are no more occasions for him imo
I agree that it will only get tougher for Froome going forward, but I would definitely not write him off yet. Two months ago he was still obliterating the field on the Finestre and before this year the Giro-Tour was basically dubbed impossible in modern times.
Seems like the good stuff is returning to the peloton, as two guys were close to pulling it off. 
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-07-2018 19:47
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I really don't care to get into yet another repetitive discussion about doping and sky, but everybody was doped up to the grills back then in the EPO era, and nowadays it looks like the people who do dope have a larger competitive advantage as they turn from donkeys to race horses. That's all I say about this.
Besides, I have stated that the Pantani record stays unmatched. I consider the Giro-Tour a sacrosanct achievement and anyone pulling it off is impressive even he hangs on the needle 24/7.
Edited by Shonak on 27-07-2018 19:49
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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Posted on 27-07-2018 19:49
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imo he won't ride Giro again furthermore, he probably want to get his 5th TdF and can sacrifice easily Giro to be more concentrated in this
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-07-2018 19:51
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Probably need a thread one of these days on who did it better in recent years: Contador (1-5), Dumoulin (2-2(?)), Froome (1-4(?)).
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 19:51
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Shonak wrote:
I really don't care to get into yet another repetitive discussion about doping and sky, but everybody was doped up to the grills back then in the EPO era, and nowadays it looks like the people who do dope have a larger competitive advantage as they turn from donkeys to race horses. That's all I say about this.
Besides, I have stated that the Pantani record stays unmatched. I consider the Giro-Tour a sacrosanct achievement and anyone pulling it off is impressive even he hangs on the needle 24/7.
We can agree on that for sure!
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 27-07-2018 20:00
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Shonak wrote:
Probably need a thread one of these days on who did it better in recent years: Contador (1-5), Dumoulin (2-2(?)), Froome (1-4(?)).
Dumoulin seemed the only one competitive for a top results in both GT, but he didn't get one
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 20:03
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froome did nothing in this tour got carried around france for 3weeks
dumoulin was competive in both tour and giro |
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| Shrike24 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 20:13
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deek12345 wrote:
froome did nothing in this tour got carried around france for 3weeks
dumoulin was competive in both tour and giro
So Dumoulin did better than a doper??? |
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Posted on 27-07-2018 20:16
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Shrike24 wrote:
deek12345 wrote:
froome did nothing in this tour got carried around france for 3weeks
dumoulin was competive in both tour and giro
So Dumoulin did better than a doper???
what? was referirng to who been more competive in the 2 GTS ,and yes to your answer .
Edited by deek12345 on 27-07-2018 21:30
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 20:25
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Shrike24 wrote:
deek12345 wrote:
froome did nothing in this tour got carried around france for 3weeks
dumoulin was competive in both tour and giro
So Dumoulin did better than a doper???
Are you french?
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 27-07-2018 20:31
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This has nothing to do with being French or not.
The user formerly known as 'The Schleck Fan'
Gracias Alberto.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 21:18
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He is not a doper. If you actually think that, then you never had to deal with Asthma yourself. Even the test is not even that good for it. People need to calm down a bit with that. All im up to.
And the "french" refrence. The majority of people booing him is allegedly french? Either way, i strongly belive him not be a doper. So let's not ruin a living legends legacy over that.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-07-2018 21:26
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I'm not french and would boo him because he's a doper.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 21:30
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 21:34
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what did they go around asking to see peoples passports of the 1000s booing every day to see what nationality they are how you know they where all french? |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 21:38
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deek12345 wrote:
what did they go around asking to see peoples passports of the 1000s booing every day to see what nationality they are how you know they where all french?
Yeah they did. It's on youtube
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-07-2018 21:46
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"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| SaL |
Posted on 27-07-2018 21:54
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Would be interesting to think of the Tour with no 2nd or 3rd place. You win or you lose. I think it could diminish the riding we see from Lotto early on, and from Dumoulin basically pulling for Thomas the last odd 20k. It's quite boring to see people riding for podium like this. |
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Posted on 27-07-2018 21:55
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SaL wrote:
Would be interesting to think of the Tour with no 2nd or 3rd place. You win or you lose. I think it could diminish the riding we see from Lotto early on, and from Dumoulin basically pulling for Thomas the last odd 20k. It's quite boring to see people riding for podium like this.
+1
The funny thing is that everybody keeps saying, "nobody remembers who came in second". Yet they all defend their 2nd and 3rd spots 
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| SaL |
Posted on 27-07-2018 21:59
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hillis91 wrote:
SaL wrote:
Would be interesting to think of the Tour with no 2nd or 3rd place. You win or you lose. I think it could diminish the riding we see from Lotto early on, and from Dumoulin basically pulling for Thomas the last odd 20k. It's quite boring to see people riding for podium like this.
+1
The funny thing is that everybody keeps saying, "nobody remembers who came in second". Yet they all defend their 2nd and 3rd spots
Exactly, and I think it's fine to give it your best to claim that podium finish, if you're fifth or something like that. I hate when the podium settles for what they have, it really ruins the fun. |
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