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National Championships 2017 - Route Votes
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 03-05-2018 22:15
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knockout wrote:
Roman wrote:
Why? What's exactly the advantage of not taking part at all?
I could write a longer rant about it but i dont think that changes anything or anyone's opinion on NCs.
Advantages:
- all riders in my team will ride in the same jersey
- i dont have to bother anyone with NC jerseys
- NCs will be won by someone who cares about them
I could ask you as well: What exactly is the advantage of taking part?
I know its an unpopular opinion but imo NCs are a pointless gimmick race that don't have any benefits / dont add anything to the game.
I fully do understand his point, there really isn't any major benefit to them. My guys didn't ride any better because a couple of them had NCs. But for most of us, it is another fun part of the season to cheer for.
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 09-05-2018 08:08
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This shows me that it would be a good idear - to make some small rewards - like a one year bonus +1 or +2 on the riders worst skill or something that wouldent do too much but still just a tiny bonus.
I'm voteng for that all raceing should have some small revards also U23 ect.
Edited by Tamijo on 09-05-2018 08:14
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 09-05-2018 09:39
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Tamijo wrote:
This shows me that it would be a good idear - to make some small rewards - like a one year bonus +1 or +2 on the riders worst skill or something that wouldent do too much but still just a tiny bonus.
I'm voteng for that all raceing should have some small revards also U23 ect.
To be fair, that would have very little impact, +1 (or +2) to the weakest stat would make a noticeable impact on only a tiny handful of riders, looking through the best riders in the DB I found that the only riders who get even a tiny benefit would be:
Ponzi --> 69 TT (for hilly tours)
Spilak/Kwiat --> 68 SP
Several sprinters (Ahlstrand, Degenkolb, Roelandts, etc.) get an MO bonus which might help them very slightly.
Also Wisniowski get all his stats coloured in. 
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 09-05-2018 10:06
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trekbmc wrote:
Tamijo wrote:
This shows me that it would be a good idear - to make some small rewards - like a one year bonus +1 or +2 on the riders worst skill or something that wouldent do too much but still just a tiny bonus.
I'm voteng for that all raceing should have some small revards also U23 ect.
To be fair, that would have very little impact, +1 (or +2) to the weakest stat would make a noticeable impact on only a tiny handful of riders, looking through the best riders in the DB I found that the only riders who get even a tiny benefit would be:
Ponzi --> 69 TT (for hilly tours)
Spilak/Kwiat --> 68 SP
Several sprinters (Ahlstrand, Degenkolb, Roelandts, etc.) get an MO bonus which might help them very slightly.
Also Wisniowski get all his stats coloured in.
I know - but as all riders are not able (allowed) to ride in these races it will be the ballance to find something that make it slightly interesting but far from gamebraking.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 09-05-2018 10:12
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It wouldn't be worth implementing though if there actually isn't any noticeable benefit though.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 09-05-2018 10:31
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Maybe add like +1 RES because you try harder when you have a nice jersey?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Vien |
Posted on 09-05-2018 10:37
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Hey, here's an idea: How about giving the winners a special jersey for a season?
In all seriousness though, I'm pretty sure the NCs are partially there to make the offseason last shorter, as a lot of work is probably done behind the scenes. So if it's either this or nothing, seeing your riders do a few more races is a pretty nice bonus already. |
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 09-05-2018 10:47
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My point was that if someone like knockout is not in this, even a small chance to win something could make it somehow more useful.
Dosent have to be a +skill, lots of other options, small budget + or whatever.
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| knockout |
Posted on 09-05-2018 11:43
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I didnt want to kick off a discussion about this and i also think further incentives are the wrong way to go.
A bonus (money, points, stat increases, ...) should always be about equally hard to earn for anybody. But a team like Tinkoff / Aker naturally has only one or two NCs to ride while a team like fjhoeckie can win countless NCs. So awarding any kind of bonus / incentive that impacts the game to NCs feels wrong to me.
Jerseys are a good enough incentive already and most managers seem to be interested in that already. It's just that I'm the weird manager who doesnt want to have NC jerseys and i figured it would be easier to not sign up instead of explaining that i want that rider X who became national champion of country y will ride in the main jersey and not in the NC jersey
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 09-05-2018 15:56
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Oki 
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