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| jaxika |
Posted on 22-04-2018 10:57
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Bikex wrote:
Thanks Shonak! Nibali winning Bucaramanga in style. Great to see him get at least one more big win this season. In general I was not very happy about his position in the rankings this season.
Shame about Betancur puncturing.
Is there an Innsbruck WC route made for PCM15?
Edit: also thanks abhishek! Great team performance from Italo in Varese
https://pcmdaily.c...id=1265996
Here is for pcm16, but there is hope that working in pcm15 too. |
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 22-04-2018 10:59
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It has ZCTS, so you can convert the stage to PCM15. I remember that i converted it for PCM17
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| Bikex |
Posted on 22-04-2018 11:11
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I think those ZCTS are just upwards compatible, so I won't be able to convert the route to PCM15. Also tbh I would prefer a mountainous rated course. 
Maybe here are some interesting zcts regions included to make a WC route out of: https://legruppetto.com/forum/viewtop...50#p482150
Something like Andorra, Romandie or Rhone Alps. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 22-04-2018 11:21
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Maybe something on the Volcan de Agua in Guatemala.  |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 22-04-2018 11:21
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Paarl, Sancy and Twang look best suited for a nice mountaineous WC race from the WC routes in PCM2015. Personaly I'd prefer Twang.
Edited by Shonak on 22-04-2018 11:29
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| jaxika |
Posted on 22-04-2018 11:38
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There is a RIo RR pack from SN, where is a nice mountain race.... |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 22-04-2018 11:53
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Just did a little test run of Tewang. Well that was fun. Nice selective route but no attacks.
Below some impressions
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 22-04-2018 12:08
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Give the people what they deserve...
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| Ripley |
Posted on 22-04-2018 12:25
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Personally speaking, a course picked only for the best 6 climbers seems too exclusive for me. From Shonak's selection I'd prefer the other two.
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| knockout |
Posted on 22-04-2018 12:35
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Ripley wrote:
Personally speaking, a course picked only for the best 6 climbers seems too exclusive for me. From Shonak's selection I'd prefer the other two.
I agree. I dont care much about the WC but i think it shouldnt be too specific towards a certain type of rider. If we go with a mountainous one I would suggest sth along the lines of Course d'Annecy with a downhill and long flat parts after the final climb.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 22-04-2018 12:49
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I agree it shouldn't be mountains only, that would make it boring. Aside from knockout's suggestions, wasn't there a cobbles mountain somewhere as well?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 22-04-2018 12:58
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I'd prefer a race that offers up to some nice thrilling action. If it's selective, then good. If it's a mix of hard hills-mountain, then it sounds okay to me since a few more riders will have a shot then, eg. Kwiatek, Bananito, Martin, Moser.
Best route would probably be a flat finish then, but those offering them are all hilly-rated.
Don't see what's wrong with mountains/hard hills only though since the winner is still out of a pool of +/- 10 top climbers. How many people have a shot in a WC cobbles, hill or sprint race? It's always around ten.
Please no cobbles mountain.
Edited by Shonak on 22-04-2018 13:06
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Bikex |
Posted on 22-04-2018 13:37
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I also had something similar to Course de Lac d'Annecy in mind when suggesting we should have a mountainous WC.
A flat finish makes the race much more open. Based on the Volcan de Agua zcts, we could use something like this:
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 22-04-2018 14:09
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Sounds like some people want a Cat.2-fest?
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Shonak |
Posted on 22-04-2018 16:59
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Next to Piccolo Lombardia, three more stages of Colombia posted incl 2 videos
https://pcmdaily.c...st_1288130
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Ripley |
Posted on 22-04-2018 17:39
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I like Bikex's profile, it has hilly and flat sections, not just mountains and descents. Maybe it could still feature a mountaintop finish, I'm not totally against that, but it looks exciting as it is.
As always thanks for the update and videos. Poels and Fuglsang looking much better than on stage 3. Really good work from Poels on stage 4, I was hoping Fuglsang ends in the top 5 and Poels the top 10, but maybe it'll be the other way round. Also, first stage win for Fuglsang this season, he really wanted it on that stage - might have been good he was blocked in at first or he would have run out of energy before the finish line.
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| Vali |
Posted on 22-04-2018 21:46
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Caruso kind of lucked into the lead again, strange that Nerz just attacked away from Costa there. Anyway, he surely remains the top favourite with that long time trial still to come, but second looks to be in reach for Caruso.
Thanks for the reports Shonak!
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| dominox |
Posted on 23-04-2018 13:34
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I was expecting something slightly better from my team in those October classics. Top 10 in Milano - Torino is nice, but was hoping for something better. Also, what happened to Ulissi in Giro dell'Emilia? Did he crash or what?
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| Shonak |
Posted on 23-04-2018 13:39
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Solid race by VDP in Emilia. Thanks bikex.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 23-04-2018 13:52
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dominox wrote:
Also, what happened to Ulissi in Giro dell'Emilia? Did he crash or what?
Ah yes I think he did. Sorry for not including that in the report, I was so furious when Lutsenko and Ratto dropped back to support Villella that I probably have missed it.
I think Ulissi was also listed in the same crash as victim, but later when I went through the group to see what other big riders were hit, he wasn't there, so I forgot about it. |
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