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ICL18 - Race Discussion
Shonak
Holy moly, stage win for Ruben is already a sweet result for Fuji but Navarro coming 7th and winning the U25 is above any reasonable expectation. Grande Rodrigo. Perhaps it is time to invest in his potential a bit in off-season.
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Shonak
Tour de Berlin wrapped up. Unfortunately some export fail on stage 3 so those stage results are just very rudimentary.

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knockout
Bikex wrote:
@knockout: I'm counting on the hilly races that are still left. Having Sagan is not enough to score points in the team rankings. Pfft
Good point on the prologue training, I was anyways planning to change some stuff about the development options.


I know. Its still far from over and as the AI doesnt know to fight for minor places there is a huge random factor in the team ranking points.
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters!

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Aquarius97
So close for Calo to take the final stage win in Berlin Pfft
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jandal7
Finally after the disaster that was the end of Berlin in our first year (our lead out beat our sprinter so he didn't quite get enough bonuses to win GC) a fantastic win for De Grootte! Astier in fifth is nice. Less said about Fuji the better.
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Bikex
The triple header is always one of the highlights of the season. Almost any top rider is in action in one of the three races, except if they are riding for CarbonSports. It gets evident how much depth the World Tour teams have.

It is interesting to see who scored how much and which team is the winner of the triple header:

DTVGTF
1raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/lys.jpgLiberty Seguros1045396 (2)234 (6)415 (2)
2raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/act.jpgAllianz - BMW Cycling Team1016625 (1)204 (9)187 (8)
3raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/itl.jpgItalo - Ventilair984198 (8)686 (1)100 (11)
4raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/sux.jpgSugoi - Xanterra822171 (10)81 (16)569 (1)
5raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/sev.jpgSevilla Cycling Team80342 (20)415 (2)346 (3)
6raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/fil.jpgFilliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team702386 (3)239 (4)77 (14)
7raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/gaq.jpgGrupo Argos - Quala694281 (5)159 (12)254 (7)
8raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/eus.jpgSantos - Euskadi676265 (6)83 (14)328 (4)
9raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/sls.jpgSuntory Lucozade Sport627196 (9)166 (11)265 (6)
10raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/tvm.jpgTVM Cycling Team519260 (7)207 (8)52 (16)
11raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/tbc.jpgBunzl - Centrica482132 (14)300 (3)50 (17)
12raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/lrt.jpgLufthansa Racing Team442328 (4)15 (19)99 (12)
13raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/csc.jpgCarbonSports Cycling - Lightweight390106 (15)195 (10)89 (13)
14raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/cac.jpgCeramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini38277 (16)25 (18)280 (5)
15raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/peu.jpgÉquipe Cycliste Peugeot355135 (13)83 (14)137 (9)
16raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/vuk.jpgVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff34056 (18)216 (7)68 (15)
17raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/spb.jpgSAP - Bianchi329159 (11)38 (17)132 (10)
18raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/ali.jpgTeam Alitalia291157 (12)125 (13)9 (19)
19raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/hot.jpgCool Runnings239-239 (4)-
20raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/bct.jpgBosch Cycling Team7676 (17)--
21raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/pcc.jpgPolestar Cyan ProCycling5555 (19)--
22raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/ccc.jpgCCC Sprandi Polkowice35--35 (18)


And also for those interested the countries ranking:
Spoiler
DTVGTF
1France2064680 (2)624 (3)760 (1)
2Italy1489170 (8)890 (1)429 (4)
3Netherlands1108442 (4)656 (2)10 (18)
4Great Britain997318 (5)96 (9)583 (2)
5Colombia873451 (3)195 (7)227 (6)
6Germany767685 (1)18 (19)64 (10)
7Spain57175 (13)27 (18)469 (3)
8Poland442155 (10)0 (26)287 (5)
9Belgium376176 (7)14 (21)186 (7)
10Slovenia365107 (11)205 (6)53 (12)
11USA3430 (25)279 (4)64 (10)
12Brazil259259 (6)0 (26)0 (25)
13Trinidad & Tobago2100 (25)210 (5)0 (25)
14Australia20319 (19)67 (10)117 (8)
Slovakia20387 (12)116 (8)0 (25)
16New Zealand187161 (9)1 (25)25 (16)
17Kazakhstan11164 (14)38 (14)9 (21)
18Austria10941 (17)0 (26)68 (9)
19Czech Republic9956 (15)17 (20)26 (14)
20Luxembourg9255 (16)37 (15)0 (25)
21Canada630 (25)36 (16)26 (14)
22Lithuania5814 (21)44 (12)0 (25)
Russia5813 (22)6 (22)39 (13)
24Portugal550 (25)55 (11)0 (25)
25Ireland420 (25)42 (13)0 (25)
26Belarus3838 (18)0 (26)0 (25)
27Sweden290 (25)29 (17)0 (25)
28Argentina240 (25)0 (26)24 (17)
29Denmark2212 (23)0 (26)10 (18)
30Norway1919 (19)0 (26)0 (25)
31South Africa100 (25)0 (26)10 (18)
32Costa Rica70 (25)6 (22)1 (23)
33Croatia40 (25)0 (26)4 (22)
Taiwan44 (24)0 (26)0 (25)
35Greece20 (25)2 (24)0 (25)
36Latvia10 (25)0 (26)1 (23)


And the stage results:
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raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/act.jpgAllianz - BMW Cycling TeamWT42112
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/itl.jpgItalo - VentilairWT22032
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/csc.jpgCarbonSports Cycling - LightweightWT21100
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/sls.jpgSuntory Lucozade SportWT20111
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/lys.jpgLiberty SegurosWT20110
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/sux.jpgSugoi - XanterraWT20012
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/gaq.jpgGrupo Argos - QualaWT14001
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/ali.jpgTeam AlitaliaWT11300
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/cac.jpgCeramica Panaria - Autogrill - CipolliniWT11001
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/fil.jpgFilliers - Mora Pro Cycling TeamWT10101
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/sev.jpgSevilla Cycling TeamWT10021
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/peu.jpgÉquipe Cycliste PeugeotWT03021
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/eus.jpgSantos - EuskadiWT02402
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/lrt.jpgLufthansa Racing TeamWT01112
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/vuk.jpgVisitUkraine p/b NemiroffWT01000
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/bct.jpgBosch Cycling TeamCT01000
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/tvm.jpgTVM Cycling TeamWT00331
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/spb.jpgSAP - BianchiWT00130
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/tbc.jpgBunzl - CentricaWT00111
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/hot.jpgCool RunningsCT00100
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/ccc.jpgCCC Sprandi PolkowiceCT00001
raw.githubusercontent.com/Bikex/ICLTinyJerseys18/master/pcc.jpgPolestar Cyan ProCyclingCT00000

Edited by Bikex on 08-03-2018 19:49
 
Shonak
Last weekend I was skiing there, now the PCM riders are riding up: Arlbergpass. Origin of my parents. Wink Also 3 flat stages for Suisse uploaded next to the video stage 3 mountain stage and the time trial https://www.youtu...e=youtu.be

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Bikex
knockout wrote:
Bikex wrote:
@knockout: I'm counting on the hilly races that are still left. Having Sagan is not enough to score points in the team rankings. Pfft
Good point on the prologue training, I was anyways planning to change some stuff about the development options.


I know. Its still far from over and as the AI doesnt know to fight for minor places there is a huge random factor in the team ranking points.


I know this is a dig at the team rankings scoring system, but you really cannot say it is a huge random factor. Not more random than anything else in PCM. Looking at the ranking the teams are on top, that you would expect there. In the end there might be some weird results, but over 20 World Cup races the randomness is almost neglectible, imo. Smile
 
Shonak
Wow Fernandez and Navarro making us 2nd best team in Japan is unreal. Kudos to those two. Happy to be the best team out of the triple header. That's for sure a first for us.

Can't wait to see the rankings.Sevilla and Santos with big points. Who knows how save Alitalia and SAP are.
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Aquarius97
A breakaway rider stopping Pelucchi from winning a stage in Suisse... Sad

Anyway, 2 second places for Pelucchi are what i was expecting when sending no climbers and the "full" flat squad to this race. Now hope for breakaways in the mountain stages
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Croatia14
the triple header was pure pain...Quintana hurt and approximately around 350 points lost there Sad

Buchko doing decent.
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hillis91
Andrea Guardini Banana
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Ollfardh
6th in the triple header, that shows how much we've grown as a team.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Ripley
Well done in Guatemala, Cool Runnings!

I'd cheer for the unmanaged Jeep Team and Evan Huffman in Switzerland, still 2nd, but he won't survive the next stages. The GC certainly isn't decided yet, should be exciting.
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TheManxMissile
That feeling when you're the 4th best scoring team in a WT race as a lowly one-dimensional one-rider CT Team Smile

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Shonak
TheManxMissile wrote:
That feeling when you're the 4th best scoring team in a WT race as a lowly one-dimensional one-rider CT Team Smile

Truly, the legend of Moses Castle continues.
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dominox
Wow, Rivera is becoming one of my favourite riders here. Our 2nd win this year! Suisse might be a very good race for us.

And Fuji. Well, that was more than I expected. Poljański 5th on a stage, Anacona 16th in GC (after losing time on last stage; I see a similarity here). Let's see how it will go later on.

Thanks all for the fantastic work you always do!
 
Vali
Very interesting stuff there Bikex! A triple header is always pretty cool, as the nature of it allows certain riders, who would maybe normally struggle to score massively, to deliver some good results.

The start to our last home race of the season was pretty good with Caruso just about managing to avoid losing time in the mountain stage. Hopefully he'll actually be able to ride aggressively in the last few decisive stages and try to attack Costa. Podium is still the goal though.
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Marcovdw
Petit second.

Rolland second.

Bouhanni second twice.

2geot Pfft
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TheManxMissile
Shonak wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
That feeling when you're the 4th best scoring team in a WT race as a lowly one-dimensional one-rider CT Team Smile

Truly, the legend of Moses Castle continues.


A competitive WT level rider from the Caribbean, we've almost already completed our project goals Pfft
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