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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-03-2018 17:11
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Holy moly, stage win for Ruben is already a sweet result for Fuji but Navarro coming 7th and winning the U25 is above any reasonable expectation. Grande Rodrigo. Perhaps it is time to invest in his potential a bit in off-season.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-03-2018 18:44
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Tour de Berlin wrapped up. Unfortunately some export fail on stage 3 so those stage results are just very rudimentary.
https://pcmdaily.c...st_1283005
Edited by Shonak on 08-03-2018 18:54
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| knockout |
Posted on 08-03-2018 18:46
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Bikex wrote:
@knockout: I'm counting on the hilly races that are still left. Having Sagan is not enough to score points in the team rankings. 
Good point on the prologue training, I was anyways planning to change some stuff about the development options.
I know. Its still far from over and as the AI doesnt know to fight for minor places there is a huge random factor in the team ranking points.
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 08-03-2018 18:51
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So close for Calo to take the final stage win in Berlin
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 08-03-2018 19:15
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Finally after the disaster that was the end of Berlin in our first year (our lead out beat our sprinter so he didn't quite get enough bonuses to win GC) a fantastic win for De Grootte! Astier in fifth is nice. Less said about Fuji the better.
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11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Bikex |
Posted on 08-03-2018 19:41
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The triple header is always one of the highlights of the season. Almost any top rider is in action in one of the three races, except if they are riding for CarbonSports. It gets evident how much depth the World Tour teams have.
It is interesting to see who scored how much and which team is the winner of the triple header:
| | | | DT | VG | TF | | 1 |  | Liberty Seguros | 1045 | 396 (2) | 234 (6) | 415 (2) | | 2 |  | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | 1016 | 625 (1) | 204 (9) | 187 (8) | | 3 |  | Italo - Ventilair | 984 | 198 (8) | 686 (1) | 100 (11) | | 4 |  | Sugoi - Xanterra | 822 | 171 (10) | 81 (16) | 569 (1) | | 5 |  | Sevilla Cycling Team | 803 | 42 (20) | 415 (2) | 346 (3) | | 6 |  | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | 702 | 386 (3) | 239 (4) | 77 (14) | | 7 |  | Grupo Argos - Quala | 694 | 281 (5) | 159 (12) | 254 (7) | | 8 |  | Santos - Euskadi | 676 | 265 (6) | 83 (14) | 328 (4) | | 9 |  | Suntory Lucozade Sport | 627 | 196 (9) | 166 (11) | 265 (6) | | 10 |  | TVM Cycling Team | 519 | 260 (7) | 207 (8) | 52 (16) | | 11 |  | Bunzl - Centrica | 482 | 132 (14) | 300 (3) | 50 (17) | | 12 |  | Lufthansa Racing Team | 442 | 328 (4) | 15 (19) | 99 (12) | | 13 |  | CarbonSports Cycling - Lightweight | 390 | 106 (15) | 195 (10) | 89 (13) | | 14 |  | Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini | 382 | 77 (16) | 25 (18) | 280 (5) | | 15 |  | Équipe Cycliste Peugeot | 355 | 135 (13) | 83 (14) | 137 (9) | | 16 |  | VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff | 340 | 56 (18) | 216 (7) | 68 (15) | | 17 |  | SAP - Bianchi | 329 | 159 (11) | 38 (17) | 132 (10) | | 18 |  | Team Alitalia | 291 | 157 (12) | 125 (13) | 9 (19) | | 19 |  | Cool Runnings | 239 | - | 239 (4) | - | | 20 |  | Bosch Cycling Team | 76 | 76 (17) | - | - | | 21 |  | Polestar Cyan ProCycling | 55 | 55 (19) | - | - | | 22 |  | CCC Sprandi Polkowice | 35 | - | - | 35 (18) |
And also for those interested the countries ranking:
And the stage results:
| | | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | WT | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | | Italo - Ventilair | WT | 2 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 2 | | CarbonSports Cycling - Lightweight | WT | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Suntory Lucozade Sport | WT | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | Liberty Seguros | WT | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Sugoi - Xanterra | WT | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | | Grupo Argos - Quala | WT | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Team Alitalia | WT | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | | Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini | WT | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | WT | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | Sevilla Cycling Team | WT | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | | Équipe Cycliste Peugeot | WT | 0 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 1 | | Santos - Euskadi | WT | 0 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 2 | | Lufthansa Racing Team | WT | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | | VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff | WT | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Bosch Cycling Team | CT | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TVM Cycling Team | WT | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 1 | | SAP - Bianchi | WT | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | | Bunzl - Centrica | WT | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | Cool Runnings | CT | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | CCC Sprandi Polkowice | CT | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Polestar Cyan ProCycling | CT | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Edited by Bikex on 08-03-2018 19:49
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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-03-2018 19:42
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Last weekend I was skiing there, now the PCM riders are riding up: Arlbergpass. Origin of my parents.  Also 3 flat stages for Suisse uploaded next to the video stage 3 mountain stage and the time trial https://www.youtu...e=youtu.be
https://pcmdaily.c...st_1283114
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| Bikex |
Posted on 08-03-2018 19:45
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knockout wrote:
Bikex wrote:
@knockout: I'm counting on the hilly races that are still left. Having Sagan is not enough to score points in the team rankings.
Good point on the prologue training, I was anyways planning to change some stuff about the development options.
I know. Its still far from over and as the AI doesnt know to fight for minor places there is a huge random factor in the team ranking points.
I know this is a dig at the team rankings scoring system, but you really cannot say it is a huge random factor. Not more random than anything else in PCM. Looking at the ranking the teams are on top, that you would expect there. In the end there might be some weird results, but over 20 World Cup races the randomness is almost neglectible, imo.  |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-03-2018 19:50
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Wow Fernandez and Navarro making us 2nd best team in Japan is unreal. Kudos to those two. Happy to be the best team out of the triple header. That's for sure a first for us.
Can't wait to see the rankings.Sevilla and Santos with big points. Who knows how save Alitalia and SAP are.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 08-03-2018 19:51
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A breakaway rider stopping Pelucchi from winning a stage in Suisse... 
Anyway, 2 second places for Pelucchi are what i was expecting when sending no climbers and the "full" flat squad to this race. Now hope for breakaways in the mountain stages
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 08-03-2018 19:54
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the triple header was pure pain...Quintana hurt and approximately around 350 points lost there
Buchko doing decent.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 08-03-2018 20:00
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Andrea Guardini 
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 08-03-2018 20:09
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6th in the triple header, that shows how much we've grown as a team.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Ripley |
Posted on 08-03-2018 20:17
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Well done in Guatemala, Cool Runnings!
I'd cheer for the unmanaged Jeep Team and Evan Huffman in Switzerland, still 2nd, but he won't survive the next stages. The GC certainly isn't decided yet, should be exciting.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-03-2018 20:19
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That feeling when you're the 4th best scoring team in a WT race as a lowly one-dimensional one-rider CT Team
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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-03-2018 20:26
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TheManxMissile wrote:
That feeling when you're the 4th best scoring team in a WT race as a lowly one-dimensional one-rider CT Team
Truly, the legend of Moses Castle continues.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| dominox |
Posted on 08-03-2018 20:35
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Wow, Rivera is becoming one of my favourite riders here. Our 2nd win this year! Suisse might be a very good race for us.
And Fuji. Well, that was more than I expected. Poljański 5th on a stage, Anacona 16th in GC (after losing time on last stage; I see a similarity here). Let's see how it will go later on.
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| Vali |
Posted on 08-03-2018 20:51
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Very interesting stuff there Bikex! A triple header is always pretty cool, as the nature of it allows certain riders, who would maybe normally struggle to score massively, to deliver some good results.
The start to our last home race of the season was pretty good with Caruso just about managing to avoid losing time in the mountain stage. Hopefully he'll actually be able to ride aggressively in the last few decisive stages and try to attack Costa. Podium is still the goal though.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 08-03-2018 21:09
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Petit second.
Rolland second.
Bouhanni second twice.
2geot
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-03-2018 21:49
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Shonak wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
That feeling when you're the 4th best scoring team in a WT race as a lowly one-dimensional one-rider CT Team
Truly, the legend of Moses Castle continues.
A competitive WT level rider from the Caribbean, we've almost already completed our project goals
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