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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 12-10-2017 11:06
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vote jseadog
In case I am wrong with my count as a tied vote doesn't help and it is more to save Croatia who I believe it would be a mistake to lynch than due to thinking jseadog is definitely mafia, even if I do think jseadog is sounding suspicious.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 12-10-2017 11:08
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I agree with bikex that a longer extension is needed, I won't have time to read any defence by Croatia or jseadog even if they are online In the next hour to post one, to this evening would be better as i think that is when they are both normally online to defend themselves.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 12-10-2017 11:20
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It's true that there is normally a deadline in the evening Euro time for that reason and I am trying to get it back to there (with a 36 hour day 6 most likely), but I unfortunately did give that one more hour as a final deadline. Apologies to those who this affects negatively but there is always someone to who the deadline won't suit.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Bikex |
Posted on 12-10-2017 11:52
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I don’t see how such a short deadline helps anyone. The day before we had ~60hours time, why can’t there be a few hours added to 24h?
The last time jseadog posted it didn’t look like he was going to be lynched. I still believe he is pro town and it would be fair to give him a chance to explain himself. I think he potentially has something interesting to say.
Also Croatia might be able to give a reasonable explanation for his weird behaviour. |
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| Raziz |
Posted on 12-10-2017 12:22
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Indeed, really want to hear jseadog's response, but if it must be, then be it. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 12-10-2017 12:31
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I vote to lynch Croatia
He still seems very suspicious to me and I don’t have much time to make up my mind about the other candidates. Additionally to him I started to feel a bad vibe about sammyt and Raziz. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 12-10-2017 12:38
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had my first second league game yesterday and celebrationts afterwards, university today - now I'm back...and I don't like what I see: I mean: lynching either jseadog or me is absolutely insane: me because I'm one of the most forward playing townies, and jseadog because, as pointed out, if he is a townie (which I am not sure about) he is most likely the detective...because he seems to have a knowledge that only detective, cc and mafia can have - and we can't really afford to kill a special role
first of all: @jseadog: if you believe that I am innocent why would you then lynch me, if there are several other players you also had one votes before and were more suspicious in your eyes
secondly: what is even the accusation against me? I stated my points honestly over the full game and told you everything I think - and yes, that in some matters changed over the game, which I think is normal as we know more in the process. I'll answer to any "new accusations" that happened after my last big post.
You keep saying that lynching noone in the previous round like I argued for is only helping the mafia. Now again you critisized me for that in your last post. You already said the day before you prefer ryant lynched over noone. However ultimately it was only your decision that noone was lynched yesterday: You didn't change your lynch vote, like you have announced to do. I wonder why you haven't done that, if in your oppinion the mafia benefits from no lynch?
I still critizise you for that. Especially I'm very surprised that you didn't try to lynch me yet.
It was not only my decision that nobody got lynched, anybody else could've done that. But yes, it was partly my fault, and I have no real explanation for it that will satisfy you. The truth is: I just couldn't be bothered to check the voting counts properly in that evening, as real life took over. When at the next morning I asked jandal via pm about whether voting is still open he denied it.
So yes, I maybe should've changed the votings earlier. But then I hoped that more people see my point and vote against you. Not doing it later is my fault, yes, but for me other stuff was more important than this decision in the game.
In the end i came down on lynching Croatia. He's been on my suspect list for days, given his repeated atempts to kill me. Has my suspision changed? Not even slightly, i'm as convinced now as yesterday.
I think I replied to every points TMM made before. As said, from his standpoint I can see why he wants to lynch me in return for my accusations.
On the mafia side, Croatia has just posted large pieces of text interspersed with unsubstantiated lynches - I don't see how this could be helpful if he is town.
That is just not true. I have explained, especially in comparison to many other lynch votes, very in-depth why I wanted to lynch the people I accuse. If you don't follow my thoughts and think they are wrong, that is totally okay, but please don't say that I offer no reasoning, because that is just not true.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 12-10-2017 12:40
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oops sorry, didn't realize that we were that far into deadlines again...damn it
also @bikex: sorry for saying that I found it strange that you didn't vote against me, as I now saw you did 
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 12-10-2017 12:40
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Spoiler 11 out of 12 votes have been cast already and I said that it was final. This may not be a popular choice but it's the one I've made. I'm sorry if you feel this is unfair and I can see both arguments but I did say that it was final and I have been giving too many extensions.
Night 5:
Another tied vote at the town meeting, meaning nobody has been lynched yet again.
Dead:
Waghlon
Aquarius97
hillis91
Marcovdw
Alive:
Raziz
Bikex
trekbmc
Croatia14
knockout
sammyt93
jseadog1
ryant
Ian Butler
weirdskyfan64
TheManxMissile
baseballlover312
24 hours for night roles.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Raziz |
Posted on 12-10-2017 12:51
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Bikex wrote:
I vote to lynch Croatia
He still seems very suspicious to me and I don’t have much time to make up my mind about the other candidates. Additionally to him I started to feel a bad vibe about sammyt and Raziz.
Let me get this straight, when I didn't contribute at the start to the town's discussions' at all, no-one accused me of anything. Now when I dedicate some more time and effort, trying to give my thoughts to the town, I am being more or less accused as a mafia member by many. This makes no sense at all from those who did so, because as I said way before, I wanted to impact the 'town's discussions' as much as possible and while I wasn't there was nothing against me. Not sure why some of you's decide to just get mad over me trying to instigate something positive for the town.
I really don't understand why I suddenly became a target because I didn't close my mouth anymore. Furthermore, if I say the actions of those that accused me are suspicious, no-one will believe me as everyone's probably already jumped on the bandwagon.
If you go back like 10 pages, there was hardly a word mentioned against me and if so it would be as a quiet town member. Fast forward a few pages to when I actually try and make a difference, everything get's dropped on my shoulders and am suddenly accused as mafia.
You do you I guess. |
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| Raziz |
Posted on 12-10-2017 12:52
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Woops, was on the same page for too long and didn't refresh... |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 13-10-2017 12:03
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Day 6:
Tonight the doctor couldn't continue the pause on the mafia killings. They resumed their... activities with ryant found dead this morning
Dead:
Waghlon
Aquarius97
hillis91
Marcovdw
ryant
Alive:
Raziz
Bikex
trekbmc
Croatia14
knockout
sammyt93
jseadog1
Ian Butler
weirdskyfan64
TheManxMissile
baseballlover312
34 hours for discussion, will return us to our euro night finish. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 13-10-2017 12:18
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Wow, I didn't see that coming  I would guess that the Mafia thinks they are on a very good way right now, from killing a guy that had several suspection clouds over him. They killed a person the doctor would, I guess, never save, and like that didn't take too many risks on a potential doctor save.
Which leaves one doubtable person less on the market. In my books still bikex is the highest, so I start the day with a lynch bikex. That, of course my change over the discussion, but he hasn't convinced me with a single point yet why he shouldn't be mafia.
Further suspicions on knockout from me. I'm very surprised he didn't really say anything about the "different positions" of bikex and me yet, despite calling them very interesting two days ago and claiming that he'll think about them. And as I'd judge from my game experience with him it is pretty untypical to not tell what he thinks about this situation. I'd like to hear something of you on this, knockout 
Coming back to the death of ryant: The only other reason for the mafia besides killing somebody that the doctor would never save is his accusations on jseadog1. Does the mafia wants to frame jseadog like this? For me that sounds more realistic than jseadog sitting in the mafia and wanting to get rid of him. Which is another point why I'd keep my hands of jseadog right now. I also trust trekbmc.
People I'd additionally rather trust than not trust right now: Ian Butler, bbl, sammyt
People I additionally have suspicions on: Raziz, weirdskyfan, TMM
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| Bikex |
Posted on 13-10-2017 12:38
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I have a hard time defending myself against your accusations as your arguments are just so weak and full of contradictions |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 13-10-2017 12:53
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Bikex wrote:
I have a hard time defending myself against your accusations as your arguments are just so weak and full of contradictions
If they are too weak then you could easily defend yourself against it right?
And if they are so contradictive then tell me what is contradictive about that regarding to your action here. And please don't try to run away of explanations again by pointing on divergent behaviour of me regarding to different time-spans than my accusations on you.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 13-10-2017 13:22
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My full analysis will come in about 3 hours from now guys.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 13-10-2017 13:59
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@Croatia: I have reacted to all your "arguments" and also said what is contradictive in my oppinion, but your last posts directed at me were not having any substance other than: I think Bikex is Mafia and he should be lynched. I doubt anything I have to say will convince you, so I'll just stop bother trying to do that. Let's leave it at that: If you are like you claim a forward playing townie, forward may not be the right way, if you look in the wrong direction.
I'll now await what jseadog has to say before thinking about what to do. |
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 13-10-2017 15:49
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Wow, didn't expect Ryant going out!
We have to lynch today really and with these kills of the less active players, it makes me kinda suspect Knockout more, if the strongest/least suspicious players where dying and Knockout didn't, he would stick out like a sore thumb, this way a strong player on the mafia can just blend in. He also made quite a big post earlier when I said I suspected him but it didn't really include any new information per se.
Also, as I mentioned yesterday Jesadog is suspicious for me, but I'll wait for his post I guess, before I make a lynch vote for one of the two,
Otherwise, at the moment I actually trust both Croatia and bikex, but not certain about anything.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 13-10-2017 15:49
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weirdskyfan64 wrote:
I don't trust trek's explanation, but I don't trust Raziz and knockout the most.
Both seem to be intent on proving how everyone is pro town, especially Raziz with the post above. Both also seem intent on sweeping the whole trek saga under the carpet, which I'm not convinced is solved.
This is beautiful. Care to read the thread again? 
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 13-10-2017 15:58
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Sorry for the triple post but something I've just remembered is that Knockout always sticks by the advice that the 'town should always lynch.' However, I haven't really seen many lynch votes from him this game and I don't think any not directed at Sammy, not playing by his own advice to the town really makes him way too suspicious for me and I think we should lynch him today.
Lynch Knockout
Lynh
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