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PCM.daily Stats Discussion
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| Ton1Mart1n |
Posted on 30-07-2017 12:53
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Redsskull wrote:
Ton1Mart1n wrote:
Don't think you can change that many stats just reviewing the tour.. We need to see the riders in bigger scales
I would say Uran certainly deserves an upgrade.
I agree on that term. 79 maybe.
“When it’s hurting you, that’s when you can make a difference”
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 30-07-2017 13:36
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After Tour of Qinghai Lake :
 Szymon Sajnok deserves at least 67 SP and maybe 65 HIL, especially for his third place in Dingxi.
 Ahmet Örken (Torku) should have 67 MO. He resisted well in the hardest stage ( https://www.procyc...17_Stage_6 ).
 Davide Mucelli (Meridiana) deserves at least 68 or 69 MO. He kept his second place even after stage 6, proving some qualities in this exercise.
 Bjorn Thurau (Kuwait) was also convincing during hard stage, 69 MO would not be too much in mu opinion.
 Mauricio Ortega is old, and also very efficient since 2016. He is able to compte with Oscar Sevilla (72 MO) in Colombia, and here with riders like Rogina or Monsalve. 70 or 71 MO won't be too much according to his recent results, he will decline fast anyway. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 30-07-2017 15:15
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aldrofj wrote:
After Tour of Qinghai Lake :
Szymon Sajnok deserves at least 67 SP and maybe 65 HIL, especially for his third place in Dingxi.
Ahmet Örken (Torku) should have 67 MO. He resisted well in the hardest stage ( https://www.procyc...17_Stage_6 ).
Davide Mucelli (Meridiana) deserves at least 68 or 69 MO. He kept his second place even after stage 6, proving some qualities in this exercise.
Bjorn Thurau (Kuwait) was also convincing during hard stage, 69 MO would not be too much in mu opinion.
Mauricio Ortega is old, and also very efficient since 2016. He is able to compte with Oscar Sevilla (72 MO) in Colombia, and here with riders like Rogina or Monsalve. 70 or 71 MO won't be too much according to his recent results, he will decline fast anyway.
All the proposals are already on the spreadsheet to find (besides Örken - great spot there, put him up from 65 to 66 Mo, though his back-up stats and good GC bonus should help him in-game to perform better than the 66)  thanks anyway, great to have a guy following CT that much
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...7I/pubhtml
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 30-07-2017 15:46
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Croatia14 wrote:
aldrofj wrote:
After Tour of Qinghai Lake :
Szymon Sajnok deserves at least 67 SP and maybe 65 HIL, especially for his third place in Dingxi.
Ahmet Örken (Torku) should have 67 MO. He resisted well in the hardest stage ( https://www.procyc...17_Stage_6 ).
Davide Mucelli (Meridiana) deserves at least 68 or 69 MO. He kept his second place even after stage 6, proving some qualities in this exercise.
Bjorn Thurau (Kuwait) was also convincing during hard stage, 69 MO would not be too much in mu opinion.
Mauricio Ortega is old, and also very efficient since 2016. He is able to compte with Oscar Sevilla (72 MO) in Colombia, and here with riders like Rogina or Monsalve. 70 or 71 MO won't be too much according to his recent results, he will decline fast anyway.
All the proposals are already on the spreadsheet to find (besides Örken - great spot there, put him up from 65 to 66 Mo, though his back-up stats and good GC bonus should help him in-game to perform better than the 66) thanks anyway, great to have a guy following CT that much
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...7I/pubhtml
No problem
Did you see my suggestions about Differdange ? They did a good Rad am Ring this afternoon, I maintain the 67-68 HIL for Raileanu and the 66-67 HIL for Rusnac, and I now suggest 65 HIL for Valvasori. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 30-07-2017 15:50
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aldrofj wrote:
Did you see my suggestions about Differdange ? They did a good Rad am Ring this afternoon, I maintain the 67-68 HIL for Raileanu and the 66-67 HIL for Rusnac, and I now suggest 65 HIL for Valvasori.
yes, and we also implemented those
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 31-07-2017 23:16
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@Maddox: Finally managed to finish the checkover of your proposals, to make sure they are included in the next update. Most of them got accepted straight away, some got a little more moderated though to fix our stat matrix. 3 riders are left open for me which you rank very high, but I can't really find evidence for your higher ranking in comparison to others:
Morten Hulgaard
Alexander Salby
Sören Siggard
Rasmus Wallin
Would you like to give some further information on why they should be statted far better than riders with a similar international palmares and more free roles in the continental circuit? I trust in your judgement on them, just need some information to understand what makes them deserve those better stats (which would kind of make the point of optimizing stats for international results [and reproducing them in PCM] a little weaker, but for the right justification we'd go that way.
Cheers!
Ps: Feel free to check our changes and comment on them
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 01-08-2017 13:05
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Is there another way to see the stats instead of opening the sheet ? It is very slow, and I can't search easily the riders because sometimes there is only one team displayed, sometimes riders sorted by their name or by one stat in particular, and I can't sort the riders myself. I think I don't unterstand how it works. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 01-08-2017 13:40
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aldrofj wrote:
Is there another way to see the stats instead of opening the sheet ? It is very slow, and I can't search easily the riders because sometimes there is only one team displayed, sometimes riders sorted by their name or by one stat in particular, and I can't sort the riders myself. I think I don't unterstand how it works.
Ah, that is because we are currently working on the team-by-team update, and the last time I forgot to sort away from it...should work now
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 01-08-2017 16:32
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Croatia14 wrote:
aldrofj wrote:
Is there another way to see the stats instead of opening the sheet ? It is very slow, and I can't search easily the riders because sometimes there is only one team displayed, sometimes riders sorted by their name or by one stat in particular, and I can't sort the riders myself. I think I don't unterstand how it works.
Ah, that is because we are currently working on the team-by-team update, and the last time I forgot to sort away from it...should work now
Yes, it works, but it is still very slow, I don't know if it comes from my computer or the sheet. |
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 02-08-2017 17:03
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 Brent Bookwalter (BMC) was impressive yesterday, he should receive more than 68 ACC, maybe 71 or 72. He is a great finisher, he already proved it during Tour of the Alps.
Tomasz Marczynski (Lotto Soudal) is quite surprising. He was strong during the last kilometers of stage 1, and, today, he finishes in the top 10 (maybe the top 15 without the fall). What about 70-71 FL and 65-66 SP ? |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 03-08-2017 23:05
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aldrofj wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
aldrofj wrote:
Is there another way to see the stats instead of opening the sheet ? It is very slow, and I can't search easily the riders because sometimes there is only one team displayed, sometimes riders sorted by their name or by one stat in particular, and I can't sort the riders myself. I think I don't unterstand how it works.
Ah, that is because we are currently working on the team-by-team update, and the last time I forgot to sort away from it...should work now
Yes, it works, but it is still very slow, I don't know if it comes from my computer or the sheet.
A way could be to CTRL+A the page so you can paste the content on a spreadsheet on your pc.
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| LordBeerus |
Posted on 03-08-2017 23:35
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what does benoot have
I hope 74 minimum mo or riot |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 04-08-2017 00:41
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He's 74 mo
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 04-08-2017 13:07
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matt17br wrote:
aldrofj wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
aldrofj wrote:
Is there another way to see the stats instead of opening the sheet ? It is very slow, and I can't search easily the riders because sometimes there is only one team displayed, sometimes riders sorted by their name or by one stat in particular, and I can't sort the riders myself. I think I don't unterstand how it works.
Ah, that is because we are currently working on the team-by-team update, and the last time I forgot to sort away from it...should work now
Yes, it works, but it is still very slow, I don't know if it comes from my computer or the sheet.
A way could be to CTRL+A the page so you can paste the content on a spreadsheet on your pc.
It works, thanks. |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 05-08-2017 21:47
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Raul Alarcon is doing a very good season, maybe he deserves a push like 73 in mountain and 72 in hills?? |
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| MountainMaster |
Posted on 05-08-2017 23:20
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AiZaK wrote:
Raul Alarcon is doing a very good season, maybe he deserves a push like 73 in mountain and 72 in hills??
Maybe is better wait for the key stages of Volta to a better opinion.
But he's doing well, of course.
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| ziga007 |
Posted on 06-08-2017 09:18
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Can we talk about Mathieu van der Poel and Wout Van Aert?
Alberto Contador
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| krisa |
Posted on 06-08-2017 09:31
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ziga007 wrote:
Can we talk about Mathieu van der Poel and Wout Van Aert? You can suggest on every rider in the db
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 06-08-2017 09:50
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I did a list on cyclocross guys last year, will make an update next week. Also guys like Merlier and Vermeersch have a few good results.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 06-08-2017 18:12
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 Emils Liepins (Rietumu) is very regular this year (especially, he is close to Kanvosky during Dookola Mazowsza and to Mikhel Raim during Tour d'Azerbaïdjan), confirming what he showed last year. His 13th place in European Championships should be rewarded by a 71 SP.
 Ivan Garcia Cortina (Bahrain) needs a huge upgrade in SP. This year, he was one of the best sprinters during Tour of Japan, finsihing two times 3rd and three times 6th. He competed with Canola or Aberasturi especially. He seems to be, currently, more a sprinter-puncher than a puncher. He also finished 8th in European Championships, 11th in Scheldeprijs and 11th in Schaffhausen, during Tour de Suisse. He deserves 73 SP in my opinion, and maybe 70 HIL because Schaffhausen was a quite hard stage.
 Aksel Nömmela (Leopard) should have 71 SP now, because of his 7th place in European Championships and 3rd in a stage of Tour du Luxembourg, won by Drucker.
 Cameron Bayly (Isowhey) may deserve more than 66 SP. He finished 2nd of GP de Pérenchies won by Roy Jans, and beat riders like Bram Welten or Alexander Krieger who are great sprinters in their division.
 Bram Welten (BMC dev), 3rd of this race, also beat Malucelli or Mareczko in the first stage of Tour de Bretagne, he also finished 2nd and 3rd of two stages during Tour de Normandie. I think is somewhere between 69 and 70 SP, but 70 sounds too ambitious for him. Moreover, he is only 20. |
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