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Ultimate Cycling League - General Thread
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 09:19
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@Croatia: I'm gonna put Julianas Kristasis up as 'nation: Ghana' for now. Let me know if he'd change it again during the game  |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 14-07-2017 09:20
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Ian Butler wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
imo, it'd be better to have a field of bots because otherwise it'd seem a bit too small a field. The local riders idea is excellent too. 
Yeah that's what I thought too 
AbhishekLFC wrote:
I'd agree with trek on this.
Pack size of around 30-50 depending on the prize money, more the prize, more the greed, more the entries.
Most of those 'extras' to be locals, everyone from school kids to 'gym-bikers' to golden 'yesteryear cyclist' oldies. Add in some journeymen from nearby countries and we've got a nice brew
Thanks for the input.
Though a whole bunch of local riders for every single race gives me a lot of new work. Especially for countries where I have to actively search for realistic names
But I guess it could be done, I could get some help maybe, too.
Help is always given on Daily to those who ask for it 
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 14-07-2017 09:25
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AbhishekLFC wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
imo, it'd be better to have a field of bots because otherwise it'd seem a bit too small a field. The local riders idea is excellent too.
Yeah that's what I thought too
AbhishekLFC wrote:
I'd agree with trek on this.
Pack size of around 30-50 depending on the prize money, more the prize, more the greed, more the entries.
Most of those 'extras' to be locals, everyone from school kids to 'gym-bikers' to golden 'yesteryear cyclist' oldies. Add in some journeymen from nearby countries and we've got a nice brew
Thanks for the input.
Though a whole bunch of local riders for every single race gives me a lot of new work. Especially for countries where I have to actively search for realistic names
But I guess it could be done, I could get some help maybe, too.
Help is always given on Daily to those who ask for it
Ya, just set up some tasks to solve and I'm sure we are all ready to do some "homework"
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 09:40
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Thanks, guys!
Provisional rider list:
| N° | Name | Nation | DD/MM/YYYY | Age (1/1/17) | | 1 | Jan Chicu | Moldavia | 27/03/1995 | 21 | | 2 | Valur Jarvi Jóhannson | Iceland | 27/11/1997 | 19 | | 3 | Kim Kastrup | Denmark | 10/10/1977 | 39 | | 4 | Justin Reed | USA | 3/03/1995 | 21 | | 5 | Rylie Wilson | USA | 21/10/1994 | 22 | | 6 | Keigo Yoshigaki | Japan | 14/04/1992 | 24 | | 7 | Allen Caldwell | USA | 5/07/1986 | 30 | | 8 | Millie Currahan | New Zealand | 12/11/1995 | 21 | | 9 | Faytinga Amanakzhigraib | Eritrea | 5/07/1990 | 26 | | 10 | Julianas Kristasis | Ghana (born Lithuania) | 14/07/1993 | 23 | | 11 | Rudy Vecker | Luxembourg | 6/12/1988 | 28 | | 12 | Chris Lou Anderson | Canada | 12/04/1989 | 27 | | 13 | Peter Venturi | Italy | 27/01/1982 | 34 | | 14 | Jeanne Serreau | Switzerland | 2/03/1993 | 23 | | 15 | Wallace Lester | Australia | 8/12/1987 | 29 | | 16 | Pierre Vermaelen | Belgium | 13/11/1981 | 35 |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 14-07-2017 09:48
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Any chance of taking Millie's age down a year to 12/11/1995 now I actually think about her backstory and how she's now got a year of her life doing nothing
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 10:02
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jandal7 wrote:
Any chance of taking Millie's age down a year to 12/11/1995 now I actually think about her backstory and how she's now got a year of her life doing nothing
Check.
Anyone willing to help: Besides your own (max) two riders, you're also allowed to make a few riders that'll participate in the UCL. Depending on how their backstory feels, they'll be subtop riders, middle pack or simple pack filler.
(However, keep in mind these won't be "your" riders)
Please state clearly that your sign-up is a bot rider. |
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 14-07-2017 10:23
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Ian Butler wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
Any chance of taking Millie's age down a year to 12/11/1995 now I actually think about her backstory and how she's now got a year of her life doing nothing
Check.
Anyone willing to help: Besides your own (max) two riders, you're also allowed to make a few riders that'll participate in the UCL. Depending on how their backstory feels, they'll be subtop riders, middle pack or simple pack filler.
(However, keep in mind these won't be "your" riders)
Please state clearly that your sign-up is a bot rider.
You want than to be just for "Trekking the States" (local) or for the entire game/season (world)
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 14-07-2017 10:25
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Do use Kim as a bot rider then, please
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 14-07-2017 10:26
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Name: Boris 'Boom Boom' Bauer
Sex: M
Nationality (region):  Germany
Date of Birth: 9/11/1991
Height: 193 cm
Weight: 82 kg
Weather Abilities:
+ hot, very hot, cold, very cold, dry
- rain, sleet, snow, humid
Stats: [choose between: very low - low - medium - high - very high]
Flat Riding: high
Climbing: low
Bike Handling: medium
Stamina: low
Acceleration: very high
Sprint Speed: very high
Recuperation: low
Attacking Spirit: very high
Repairs: low
Off-Road: very low
Food Management: high
Biography: Boris was born exactly two years to the day from the fall of the Berlin wall. His parents lived on either side of the wall, separated by less than 2 kilometers. His parents met and fell in love when they were both in Paris celebrating their college graduation. With the wall still standing, there was no way of them ever getting together back home. They eloped, a spur of the moment decision, and took refuge in Gent. When the wall fell in November, 1989, they immediately made their way back.
Young Boris Bauer was named after their parents' common passion, Boris Becker. He even had the same unruly mop of blond hair. It was pretty clear from a young age what Boris's parents had planned for him. His parents had returned to Berlin the month after the wall had been razed, and Boris had lived his childhood in Berlin.
Fast forward 17 years; Boris was always a big-built boy, but very fit and athletic. He had started playing tennis at the insistence of his parents and had turned out to be good at it. He had the distinct advantage of towering over his opponents in the same age group, out-powering them easily. He was already six feet tall and weighed 65 kgs. He won several junior tournaments and his parents were delighted with his progress. From a young age, they hired the best coach for their son that they could afford and drove him to practice and to tournaments, sacrificing their own careers.
However, no one had asked Boris what he wanted. While he enjoyed his victories, he didn't like getting up at dawn and being driven, sleepy and dazed, to practice six days a week. And then getting back home, exhausted, go to school, come back, finish his schoolwork and be packed off to bed early, to repeat the cycle again.
As soon as he turned 18, he left home and moved to France, away from his family, but still not having given up on tennis, mainly because he didn't know what else to do with himself. When he started winning, for a couple of years, he seriously considered sticking to tennis. However, disaster struck just as Boris was deciding to turn professional. A serious back injury at the age of 21 sidelined him for a year. He couldn't swing a racket, let alone play a match.
The doctors advised him to take up running and cycling as stamina building exercises if he ever wished to get back to tennis. Although the latter was not high on Boris's agenda, this tryst with cycling would be his turning point. He loved to ride kilometer after kilometer, alone and in peace. He would often go away on long rides early in the morning, lose track of time and only stop when he was hungry or thirsty.
After his recovery, he attempted a return to tennis. This was a brief and forgettable episode. He 'retired' from tennis at the age of 23, never having turned pro.
But he did turn pro in cycling a year later. Having shifted to Marseille, he joined St. Marguerite Sports Club, and would eventually represent them in local races.
With his tennis background, and his running-around style of play, he had a huge turn of speed in his cycling legs. He could accelerate for short bursts of speed and could leave his opponents behind on the flat roads. He had strong arms and could launch his bike at the line to round off sprints. His weight helped him be extremely aerodynamic on flats and on descents. That same weight was a hindrance on climbs. He struggled in most climbs which were higher than a gentle hill. He hated the uneven terrain of off-roading and felt that off-roading was for mountain-bikers. He had recently started fiddling around with his bike, to discover how everything worked. but apart from filling air into tires and tightening a loose brake pad, he had not got the hang of much else yet.
Boris was never shy to speak his mind, coming back with a quick response - sometimes witty, sometimes ferocious - to anything he didn't like. This trait, along with his explosive bursts of speed on the bike had earned him his nickname 'Boom Boom', akin to his namesake and the man he was named after.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 14-07-2017 11:29
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Spoiler Bot  Also a note Ian will bots be claimable for new players/people now who want to claim them?
Name: Montague Bonaparte
Sex: M
Nationality (region): France (ÃŽle-de-France)
Date of Birth: 30/9/1994
Height: 182cm
Weight: 70kg
Biography: Born to an upper-class family in Paris, Montague Bonaparte (and yes he'll claim he's on of those Bonapartes) had everything on a plate from him from the moment he was wrapped in luxury white blankets as a newborn. He grew up arrogant, very aloof and was in a private school (or whatever you call it in France) as soon as he could be. He had whatever he wanted whenever he wanted and with an aristocratic father and unfortunately, trophy wife mother if he was polite and good enough at sport and academics he wasn't really of use. This has lead to some psychological issues he still doesn't really understand today.
Most of his human contact outside of rich kids the same age came from his family's butler Guillaume. Guillaume introduced Monty to cycling at age 8 and the young boy immediately wanted to be a great cyclist and to be a bit normal (for although he is aloof and not as naturally empathetic often he really wishes he was more upper middle class ). He had a road bike soon enough and would train hard with Guillaume's supervision and coaching. Cycling helped him make a couple of friends from the middle class and feel a bit less secluded from regular society.
He developed a keen talent for it and though especially in terms of the UCL he doesn't know a thing about maintenance or nutrition which was Guillaume's job once he started racing in the lower levels. He tried his hand at longer races and found a decent aptitude for them and did well when accelrating and on Alpine and Pyreneean trips but his strength was in the time trials or solo/tempo riding.
This season after a couple of years working some business for his father he's going off on an adventure with Guillaume (who's got license from Mrs. Bonaparte to do this over butlering) to rediscover his true passion of cycling. His bikes are custom-made to be as fast and light as possible within the limits and his gear will be top notch. no entry fee is too high but prize money also isn't the point - this boy loves racing except when he's losing. Yes he's a little rich boy, but he's a bloody fast rich boy.
Weather Abilities: Pretty flexible, prefers warm weather but has the top warm gear to survive the cold
Stats: [choose between: very low - low - medium - high - very high]
Flat Riding: very high
Climbing: high
Bike Handling: high
Stamina: medium
Accelaration: high
Sprint Speed: high
Recuperation: high
Attacking Spirit: low
Repairs: very low
Off-Road: low
Food Management: very low (but butler will give him the right stuff )
Edited by jandal7 on 17-07-2017 08:28
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 14-07-2017 11:59
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I to be honest do not really enjoy the idea of personalized bots, instead I'd prefer mostly local ones on every race. Especially when the bots are as overpowered as jandals is I'd prefer them also with hidden stats, to have some guessing work to do in terms of learning on how to race against whom.
I offer help in creating names on regional riders; have quite some fun in creating those. Just contact me for these races and I'll fire out some.
Think we could work with a wider variety of peloton size. F.e. a one-day race in France, if it's open for all, could attend up to 400 riders (don't have to be named of course), while a challenge on a caribbian island could have a peloton of 15-20 riders. You know where I'd go with this? This could create some more unique races in wider sight.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 11:59
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Tamijo wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
Any chance of taking Millie's age down a year to 12/11/1995 now I actually think about her backstory and how she's now got a year of her life doing nothing
Check.
Anyone willing to help: Besides your own (max) two riders, you're also allowed to make a few riders that'll participate in the UCL. Depending on how their backstory feels, they'll be subtop riders, middle pack or simple pack filler.
(However, keep in mind these won't be "your" riders)
Please state clearly that your sign-up is a bot rider.
You want than to be just for "Trekking the States" (local) or for the entire game/season (world)
At this point, for first season (and possibly further seasons), so permanent |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 12:04
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Croatia14 wrote:
I to be honest do not really enjoy the idea of personalized bots, instead I'd prefer mostly local ones on every race. Especially when the bots are as overpowered as jandals is I'd prefer them also with hidden stats, to have some guessing work to do in terms of learning on how to race against whom.
I offer help in creating names on regional riders; have quite some fun in creating those. Just contact me for these races and I'll fire out some.
Think we could work with a wider variety of peloton size. F.e. a one-day race in France, if it's open for all, could attend up to 400 riders (don't have to be named of course), while a challenge on a caribbian island could have a peloton of 15-20 riders. You know where I'd go with this? This could create some more unique races in wider sight.
Interesting ideas.
Though up to 400 for a race is a bit too much, the race tactics would turn hectic. For this sport I consider a max peloton size of 70, for now at least I think.
Then again, more traditional countries will have more local ones than faraway countries and races in touch places will draw a smaller crowd. That's also up to you as a player to let me know which races your rider won't be attending (because of finances or other reasons...)
Hidden stats for the bots are a good idea. On the other hand, don't put too much emphasis on the stats, as I use them as a getting of point for your character, but I make some tweaks myself and then your character's racing is mostly dependant on your role-playing.
The original stats (high, low...) are mainly to set up what the character is good in and what not. It's not a system where 'high' automatically is like 8/10 and 'low' is 4/10 or something. It's more for each rider relatively.
On the other hand, I think it's interesting to have some personalised bots, because it brings depth to our fantasy world and I can use their story when reporting a race.
But we can limit ourselves. And I agree we should definitely also have some bots that are just a name, not a story.
Edited by Ian Butler on 14-07-2017 12:07
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 14-07-2017 12:06
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I'll help out with bots or rider names when I've got some more time later.
Just quickly, Jan Anatol is from Moldova, not Moldovia (pretty sure that doesn't exist any more).
Also, I might update Rudy's back story at some point, because it doesn't quite feel right to me.
"What done is, is one." - Benji Naesen
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 14-07-2017 12:07
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Especially when the bots are as overpowered as jandals is
Well it's all relative to how Ian wants to interpret, but since you can't go lower than very low very low has to represent very low because if it's medium what about his lows, they're off the charts And I also disagree on personal ones, whislt not all of them should be it could get slightly lifeless, even if you don't need a backstory for all of them, only a few, it will make role-playing much better with an idea of character for some of the bots.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 12:09
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jandal7 wrote:
Especially when the bots are as overpowered as jandals is
Well it's all relative to how Ian wants to interpret, but since you can't go lower than very low very low has to represent very low because if it's medium what about his lows, they're off the charts And I also disagree on personal ones, whislt not all of them should be it could get slightly lifeless, even if you don't need a backstory for all of them, only a few, it will make role-playing much better with an idea of character for some of the bots.
I agree.
However, your bot sounds a bit too much like a Jules Verne character. I'm not adding him for now, sorry the name is also too terrible to use in race reports  |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 14-07-2017 12:11
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Ian Butler wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
Especially when the bots are as overpowered as jandals is
Well it's all relative to how Ian wants to interpret, but since you can't go lower than very low very low has to represent very low because if it's medium what about his lows, they're off the charts And I also disagree on personal ones, whislt not all of them should be it could get slightly lifeless, even if you don't need a backstory for all of them, only a few, it will make role-playing much better with an idea of character for some of the bots.
I agree.
However, your bot sounds a bit too much like a Jules Verne character. I'm not adding him for now, sorry the name is also too terrible to use in race reports
Ah well it was fun to imagine
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 14-07-2017 12:11
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Maybe we can skip the stats for bots and give them a two-line backstory with certain hidden-in-plain-sight traits. Might be fun to interpret.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 12:12
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@Abhis: accepted, of course looks like an interesting character! |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 12:15
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AbhishekLFC wrote:
Maybe we can skip the stats for bots and give them a two-line backstory with certain hidden-in-plain-sight traits. Might be fun to interpret.
Yes. Based on the (small) backstory I'll determine their stats.
For "realism" sake it might be best to give a larger backstory to:
- professional cyclists, either retired or changing direction or ...
- Other more famous people.
Others would know of their skills. If in real life Sagan would come into this sport, we'd know what he's capable of.
On the other hand, hidden/no stats and only a few lines for:
- newcomers, young riders
- locals
Nobody knows them, nobody knows their abilities.
However, first let us await who signs up and focus on the bots when all the real players are in
Edited by Ian Butler on 14-07-2017 12:32
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