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Tour de France 2017 | Stage 4 | Mondorf - Le -Bains - Vittel
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:52
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Will say a lot about this Denk guy how he handles this. Brailsford, Unzue, Lefevre they get this overturned i'm sure
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:58
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Lol 100 journo's and not one of them bothered to ask why they first DQ'd him and an hour later threw him out
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:58
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Spilak23 wrote:
Will say a lot about this Denk guy how he handles this. Brailsford, Unzue, Lefevre they get this overturned i'm sure
UCI rules (at least on paper) give no room for appeal by Sagan though.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:00
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cio93 wrote:
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Sagan is going for an ever decreasing gap thats just dangerous riding. Its almost the same thing he did to Vantomme at G-W. Kristoff did nothing wrong there lol
The gap was the same size when Greipel went through it as it was when Sagan tried to, it only narrowed in the last 0.5 seconds before the crash or so.
This gap is big enough to go through, and the crash happens maybe 10-15 metres later.
He shouldve backed out at this point but keeps pushing I mean thats by definition dangerous riding. Hes risking a crash by trying to follow wheels at all cost. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:01
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"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:02
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"Great" analyzis guys!
Did, did not, did, did not.
Riis is wrong also there ..even with that success Sagan is still great person and respected at peloton. even victim Cav. Did say that as first thing.
Calling Cavedish as Cavenshit or what ever is just lame. Man has earned some respect. He did not demanded that Sagan should be out of the race. |
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| Reveille |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:03
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I love how Demare totally hit Bouhani and was probably just as dangerous as Sagan and Cav but gets no penalty. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:03
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Good chances Démare would have won green regardless. The guy is faster than Sagan in a flat sprint and considering the route and the margin he would have had, he would be my favourite. Arnaud has taken a step up. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:04
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Reveille wrote:
I love how Demare totally hit Bouhani and was probably just as dangerous as Sagan and Cav but gets no penalty.
Demare's move was dangerous too, no doubt.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:06
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Also if Bouhanni/Cofidis do not complain, Demare won`t be punished.
So obviously there was no official complain. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:07
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fjhoekie wrote:
Cavendish made the initial contact with his head on Sagan's hip, trying to force a non-eexistant gap. Cav and Sagan both lose balance, Sagan puts out his elbow and knee, Cav finds the barrier. No contact after the first made by Cavenshit. Cavenshit should be penalized for endangering Degenkolb and Swift (and all others).
Did you see the overhead shot? The gap was there....
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:07
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roturn wrote:
Also if Bouhanni/Cofidis do not complain, Demare won`t be punished.
So obviously there was no official complain.
Why no complain from Cofidis. It was pretty clear  |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:08
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roturn wrote:
Also if Bouhanni/Cofidis do not complain, Demare won`t be punished.
So obviously there was no official complain.
They did tho, but Nacer is complaining about everything. Especially when he is beaten by Arnaud.  |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:08
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Guido Mukk wrote:
"Great" analyzis guys!
Did, did not, did, did not.
Riis is wrong also there ..even with that success Sagan is still great person and respected at peloton. even victim Cav. Did say that as first thing.
Calling Cavedish as Cavenshit or what ever is just lame. Man has earned some respect. He did not demanded that Sagan should be out of the race.
Sagan doesn't really have too many friends in the peloton, though.
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:08
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Riis123 wrote:
roturn wrote:
Also if Bouhanni/Cofidis do not complain, Demare won`t be punished.
So obviously there was no official complain.
They did tho, but Nacer is complaining about everything. Especially when he is beaten by Arnaud.
Are you sure?
On official team twitter it all sounds like normal for them. Also I nowhere heard about an official complain by them. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:08
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Sagan is going for an ever decreasing gap thats just dangerous riding. Its almost the same thing he did to Vantomme at G-W. Kristoff did nothing wrong there lol
The gap was the same size when Greipel went through it as it was when Sagan tried to, it only narrowed in the last 0.5 seconds before the crash or so.
This gap is big enough to go through, and the crash happens maybe 10-15 metres later.
He shouldve backed out at this point but keeps pushing I mean thats by definition dangerous riding. Hes risking a crash by trying to follow wheels at all cost.
No amount of braking could've saved that situation anymore. But there were absolutely no signs of this situation appearing at the time when braking would've still helped.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:11
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roturn wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
roturn wrote:
Also if Bouhanni/Cofidis do not complain, Demare won`t be punished.
So obviously there was no official complain.
They did tho, but Nacer is complaining about everything. Especially when he is beaten by Arnaud.
Are you sure?
On official team twitter it all sounds like normal for them. Also I nowhere heard about an official complain by them.
I don't know about official reports, but Nacer was very angry with Démare. I assume they have, why wouldn't they? But dno. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:14
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Anyways, a decision such as this would surely help bring Sagan down to the ground for a while. So while it wasn't necessary, I applaud the officials for their balls to do it. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:17
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cio93 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Sagan is going for an ever decreasing gap thats just dangerous riding. Its almost the same thing he did to Vantomme at G-W. Kristoff did nothing wrong there lol
The gap was the same size when Greipel went through it as it was when Sagan tried to, it only narrowed in the last 0.5 seconds before the crash or so.
This gap is big enough to go through, and the crash happens maybe 10-15 metres later.
He shouldve backed out at this point but keeps pushing I mean thats by definition dangerous riding. Hes risking a crash by trying to follow wheels at all cost.
No amount of braking could've saved that situation anymore. But there were absolutely no signs of this situation appearing at the time when braking would've still helped.
It certainly its as clearcut at the Cav one but I can see how this could influence the decision of the UCI jury. Its just the fact hes taking the risks that might cause a big pile-up. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 19:19
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Sagan's removal of Vantomme still was more blatant, tho; that move was a disgrace. |
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