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Tour de France 2017 | Stage 4 | Mondorf - Le -Bains - Vittel
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:09
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Paul23 wrote:
ivaneurope wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
How is 30 sec penalty punishing for Sagan in any way, shape or form. Especially with tomorrows stage. HAHAHA ASO please
He lost all his points from this stage
That's nothing...they should've taken him off the race for that. Greipel was furious in an interview.
Greipel is a douchebag in his own right IMO - he also did some unfair antics.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:10
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Petacchi said opposite...
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| dominox |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:11
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Apparently they have taken 80 points from Sagan in PC. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:12
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Which is ridicoulous though.
Either DSQ completely or just from this stage.
Taking other stuff is stupid and makes it look like: "Hey Demare has a real chance, let`s improve that". |
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| Choklets |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:13
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I wish no1 harm but doesn't Cavendish going down in a sprint seem like karmic payback? |
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:13
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roturn wrote:
Which is ridicoulous though.
Either DSQ completely or just from this stage.
Taking other stuff is stupid and makes it look like: "Hey Demare has a real chance, let`s improve that".
The chances Arnaud Démare to wear Maillot Vert in Paris are slim to none
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| cio93 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:13
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My two cents (all angles in the rider direction, not the camera direction):
Cav sees a gap to get to Demare.
Sagan does the same and closes it on him, causing body contact in the back and waist area of Sagan.
This causes his bike and body balance to deviate to the left, you can see the front part of his bike wobbling.
Sagan instinctively reacts with his only body part that allows him to rebalance, his elbow (knee would work but is obviously busy).
The first little flick is as a reaction to the body contact, the second larger flick is as a reaction to the imbalance.
Cav already goes down from the initial contact and the first slight elbow twitch, the big one doesn't even hit him or at least has nothing to do with the crash.
And maybe it is only me, but it nearly seems to me like Cav is swerving a few cm to the left into Sagan before any contact, being scared of the barriers.
The only punishable offense would be closing the gap on Cav imo, and it is far from certain that was intentional or even with malice. The elbow thing is completely irrelevant.
I do not mind a points and time fine, I would mind a DQ.
Edited by cio93 on 04-07-2017 17:19
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:15
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Penalty for Sagan mean Green jersey hopes are over. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:17
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ivaneurope wrote:
roturn wrote:
Which is ridicoulous though.
Either DSQ completely or just from this stage.
Taking other stuff is stupid and makes it look like: "Hey Demare has a real chance, let`s improve that".
The chances Arnaud Démare to wear Maillot Vert in Paris are slim to none
He is in top form. Wouldn`t be too sure about it. He got some nice points yesterday on a difficult stage and also has the speed to win on pan flat stages this year.
Wouldn`t call it slim to none. |
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:17
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You sure about that? The intermediate sprints on every stage regardless of type give 20 points for crossing them first. All he needs to do is to get in breakaways in the mountain and hilly stages and win the sprints.
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:22
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Looks like 6th green jersey is very difficult now. Good work by ASO to give Frenchmen nudge ahead in that competition. At-least he they had guts should have DSQ him completely.
But no his popularity means they want him in race too.
Double standard of ASO. They want have cake and eat it too. |
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:29
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-80 points
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:29
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80 points? 80 fucking points?
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| Dusen |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:30
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What a joke. 80 points. Fuck this.
If i was Sagan i would have pulled out of the Tour. |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:31
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80 points is harsh, but let's say it's karma for what he did to Vantomme.
EDIT: I hear only 50 from another source though.
Edited by Ollfardh on 04-07-2017 17:33
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:32
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df_Trek wrote:
Impossible give 0/100 fault to one or another...maybe Sagan could do something better, but Cav starts overtaking his rear wheel when ther's less than 80 cm between sagan and wall
Did you even watch it?
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| wouty006 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:38
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Well pretty much all the intermediate sprints in the mountain stages are before the mountains, so I'd say there is no chance for Sagan to get the green jersey this year |
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| dominox |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:40
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Ollfardh wrote:
80 points is harsh, but let's say it's karma for what he did to Vantomme.
EDIT: I hear only 50 from another source though.
It is 50 points penalty. They have taken 30 points because he was 2nd today  . |
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:44
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Paul23 wrote:
df_Trek wrote:
Impossible give 0/100 fault to one or another...maybe Sagan could do something better, but Cav starts overtaking his rear wheel when ther's less than 80 cm between sagan and wall
Did you even watch it?
no way to go through there sprinting
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| Holdy |
Posted on 04-07-2017 17:45
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Following PCS he is down to 15 Points, which means he lost his points from today and another 35 points penalty (he had 50 after yesterday). Pretty interesting decision. I bet they wanted to make the fight for green more interesting. Last year he won with 250 points in front of the 2nd ranked |
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