Gentleman wrote:
I recall that LottoNL Jumbo's Timo Roosen used to have a better COB stat. Am I mistaken or is he downgraded for some reason?

Looking at his rankings, he generally ends up somewhere around 15 to 20th position in the 'easier' races (E3, Omloop) and around 40-50th in RvV and Paris-Roubaix last year as a teammate who has given his all for his leader. Based on that I would say he deserves a little more than the 63 COB currently assigned in the Lite DB. I recall he used to have a 71 or 73 for it, but not sure whether that's from memory, because I don't have the old DB anymore - only the one I edited here and there Still, I thought he might deserve a little more than this. 73 sounds reasonable for someone with those rankings. Won't win anything, but will still be able to finish reasonably in lesser races.

Also, didn't he have more TT as well? He currently has a 69, but that looks a little meager for someone who was part of the WC TTT last year. He's no exceptional TTer, but should still be able to consistently push a 72 or 73 at least. Again, it won't win him any prizes, but he should be a tad better than 69 I believe.

I looked up his results from 2017 and it surprised me how he ended up on the podium in the Tour des Fjords in Norway. He finished podium, but also ended up 2nd in the Points ranking. Granted, he is part of the sprint train for Groenewegen, but still, the DB doesn't do him justice with a 64 for sprint and a 71 for flat, but I don't dare to recommend new values for that. For now, I'll stick to his COB and TT values. But if someone else can comment on his SP/FL, I would appreciate that.

katulen wrote:
Dno if this is alrdy disgussed, if so, sorry

But, imo Fuglsang's stats should be changed. I know what he delivered in Dauphine comes as a surprise. However, i have a ongoing career, with him in my team - and cause of his age, he already declined in some of his stats. He is 75 in MO atm (Marts 2017 - First season). Imo to low.

Any thoughts?

matt17br wrote:

He has 78 mo, at no point in the last 5 years or so we have lowered him to 75.

sammyt93 wrote:


I think he means that Fuglsang has declined to 75mo by March first season and is questioning whether his starting stat should be upped to compensate this.

Croatia14 wrote:
I guess that basically was incredibly bad luck with the PCM engine - sadly we can't control riders declines besides working with their potential, as other options (like age of decline) are disabled by the developers (for whatever reason)...and yes, Fuglsang is talented - but no Potential 7 guy (for me at least)

katulen wrote:


Hmm, bad luck y ? So you say if i create another career with Fuglsang, i might be lucky he doesnt decrease that fast, or?

And yes i agree.. He aint a potential 7 guy.. As said, i just find it so sad that already after 3 months he is down at 75 MO, and therefor not usable at all for top classifications.

I'm not sure what DB you are looking at but Roosen has better stats than what you've put. I just changed two by the odd point though based on your comments

Flat 72 to 73
Cobble 71 to 72
Hill 71
Sprint 70
TTT/Pro 69 and 70

Bear in mind as well that for TTT flat plays a big part and for that reason he may need better flat stats and also I'll look at his other stats in general.

cio93 wrote:
Welcome to PCM, the game where everything's made up and the stats don't matter.

Paul23 wrote:


Should I say, that Schachmann has 85 TT, 85 PRL 84 FL and 84 RES as well as 81 HI?

cio93 wrote:


The fun fact with PCM games is, now I don't know whether your issue is that a rider with such stats is not winning a hilly TT, or that your issue is that a rider with such stats exists.

jeremyrobin wrote:
Ivan Sosa (Androni) finish 3rd in Tour of Bihor - Bellotto and 13th in Vuelta a Castilla y Leon

63mon> 67, 62end> 64, 62res>66, 61rec>63