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valverde321
Eden95 wrote:
Start with one.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot

- Thanh Huynh 62 57 65 55 63 66 60 52 66 65 71 61 56 VIE AS 1 0 25 07 1996 5


Young Vietnamese sprinter who's pretty good over hilly terrain. Achieved some decent results in Asia during current and past season.


What do you guys think of Yevgeniy Gidich? Seems a promising young Kazakh but I can't put my finger on his specialty. Seems a good sprinter and a pretty decent puncheur, but almost won on the Cameron Highlands stage of Langkawi too? Any thoughts?


Gidich seems really good tbf. You're right. Maybe we can rule out Cobbles beast but he seems good at everything else.
Also, Thanh Huynh is already in the db as ID 1003 (he just doesn't have an "h" on the end of his first name. The birthdate is the exact same.
At first I thought your suggestion was crazy, and then I realised the tables didn't line up properly. Embarassed Looked like 56 sprint for me. He definitely seems like a hilly/sprint rider as opposed to a TT rider which is what he currently is in the db.
 
Eden95
valverde321 wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
Start with one.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot

- Thanh Huynh 62 57 65 55 63 66 60 52 66 65 71 61 56 VIE AS 1 0 25 07 1996 5


Young Vietnamese sprinter who's pretty good over hilly terrain. Achieved some decent results in Asia during current and past season.


What do you guys think of Yevgeniy Gidich? Seems a promising young Kazakh but I can't put my finger on his specialty. Seems a good sprinter and a pretty decent puncheur, but almost won on the Cameron Highlands stage of Langkawi too? Any thoughts?


Gidich seems really good tbf. You're right. Maybe we can rule out Cobbles beast but he seems good at everything else.
Also, Thanh Huynh is already in the db as ID 1003 (he just doesn't have an "h" on the end of his first name. The birthdate is the exact same.
At first I thought your suggestion was crazy, and then I realised the tables didn't line up properly. Embarassed Looked like 56 sprint for me. He definitely seems like a hilly/sprint rider as opposed to a TT rider which is what he currently is in the db.


I honestly have no idea how to represent Gidich accurately statwise, maybe best left to someone else or even give him a miss until more about him is known.

Ah ok I see. Yeah it's been a little while since I've done up a table :lol:
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tsmoha
Release Durbridge and hope for an Aussie who can actually ride cobbles?

Grin

May suggest a few riders soonish. Any deadline for this?
 
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tsmoha
alexkr00 wrote:
Fucking with the layout of the forum has actually made tsmoha's signature look cooler Grin


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Roman
tsmoha wrote:
Any deadline for this?

Approx. the end of renewals, as every season. Smile
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tsmoha
Roman wrote:
tsmoha wrote:
Any deadline for this?

Approx. the end of renewals, as every season. Smile


Yeah, thanks. Been away for too long. And I'm getting too old Smile
 
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jph27
Figure I may as well post some big talent suggestions, after Bjartne posted more insane stats to make these look reasonable Pfft

Also mixed in some less talented riders with higher starting levels, no real pattern to how I spotted potential additions Wink

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
LatourPierre69767668757373526470777170FRAEU30121019936
LatourPierre70797870777576526471787272FRAEU40121019936
LatourPierre71817972797778526472787274FRAEU4100121019936
LopezMiguel Angel67747469717070506673736869COLSA204219947
LopezMiguel Angel68767671737272506674746871COLSA304219947
LopezMiguel Angel69807873757475506675756973COLSA404219947
LopezMiguel Angel70828075777677506676766975COLSA41004219947
OomenSam68717166717069566366736270NEDEU1015819956
OomenSam68737267727171566366736271NEDEU2015819956
OomenSam69757369747373566367736273NEDEU3015819956
OomenSam70787571767576566368746375NEDEU4015819956
OomenSam71807673787778566369746377NEDEU410015819956
TurgisAnthony70657264697567656970776467FRAEU2016519946
TurgisAnthony71667464717668657072796567FRAEU3016519946
TurgisAnthony72677765747769657175816668FRAEU4016519946
TurgisAnthony73687965767870657277836768FRAEU410016519946
EikingOdd Christian68697064717168546569696666NOREU20281219947
EikingOdd Christian69707365737269546671716767NOREU30281219947
EikingOdd Christian70717766767370546774736868NOREU40281219947
EikingOdd Christian71728067787471546876756969NOREU4100281219947
Geoghegan HartTao67707167696968626568696967GBREU1030319955
Geoghegan HartTao67727268707069626568696968GBREU2030319955
Geoghegan HartTao68747370727171626568696970GBREU3030319955
Geoghegan HartTao69777572747373626569707072GBREU4030319955
Geoghegan HartTao70797674767475626569707074GBREU410030319955
StalnovNikita66747468696973606468716666KAZAS410014919914
SimionPaolo70656764696870647576666465ITAEU40101019925
SimionPaolo72656764716974657778666465ITAEU4100101019925
PedersenMads70666769697564697173746869DENEU10181219957
PedersenMads72666769707565707375746869DENEU20181219957
PedersenMads74666869727671727577746969DENEU30181219957
PedersenMads76676969747777747979747069DENEU40181219957
PedersenMads78677069767879768181747169DENEU4100181219957
MadsenMartin Toft72616576687566616162606475DENEU410020219854
JaramilloDaniel Alexander66747260696867606774746662COLSA4015119915
JaramilloDaniel Alexander66767460706969606776766662COLSA410015119915
 
cio93
Time to give same advice as every year before:
Don't forget Climber v1 exists.
 
jph27
cio93 wrote:
Time to give same advice as every year before:
Don't forget Climber v1 exists.


I'm well aware of that problem, and it presents a huge challenge when adding stage racers. I tried to take an approach of making the riders have strong enough TT stats that it would make more sense to train them with Stage Race, but the issue remains. Can be sorted out before addition though, very much an idealised approach here Pfft
 
whitejersey
Nice suggestions JPH. I would personally love to see Pedersen, Toft Madsen and Geoghan Hart in MG. Very promising riders!
 
Scorchio
One way to deal with this (adding in top talents, but balancing how they might be developed to avoid over-powered monsters), would be to use a low 'potential', hence starting stats are already a bit higher, and therefore pre-defined? Just a thought.

As an aside while I'm here, it's a real shame (to me), that Pierre La Tour has dropped using his full name. When he was racing as a junior, I always found his name amusing in terms of combining a quintesentially French and British name 'Pierre Roger La Tour'. Shame he couldn't be added to the db in that naming format Wink.
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Ollfardh
Because Roger is not a french name? Pfft
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Aquarius97
Scorchio wrote:
One way to deal with this (adding in top talents, but balancing how they might be developed to avoid over-powered monsters), would be to use a low 'potential', hence starting stats are already a bit higher, and therefore pre-defined? Just a thought.

As an aside while I'm here, it's a real shame (to me), that Pierre La Tour has dropped using his full name. When he was racing as a junior, I always found his name amusing in terms of combining a quintesentially French and British name 'Pierre Roger La Tour'. Shame he couldn't be added to the db in that naming format Wink.


Pierre Latour is the real name. The Roger thing was a mistake by someone in a race in Juniors, and that sticked with the time
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jt1109
Ollfardh wrote:
Because Roger is not a french name? Pfft


Roger has a slightly different slang meaning in English Wink
 
Heine
While it might be time to add some good potential young riders again, I hope we cap them at max 81 without training (I would prefer 80/79). So that they wont be super riders in just 3-4 years
 
Scorchio
Ollfardh wrote:
Because Roger is not a french name? Pfft


I ken it is a French name in origin, but (maybe just in my mind diluted by old UK comedy programmes), is the sort of name given to posh English kids, with a bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more type humour associated. It was also about the only French riders name I could immediatley pick out on race radio given it was so distinctive (and came up so often).

In a totally different anecdote, a 'fight' between two chaps (one called Roger (hence the relevance) the other Quentin in Bristol 3 or 4 years ago was also perhaps the funniest I've ever listened to (overheard when woken up in middle of the night by these two idiots outside my flat). Really more of an argument than a fight, but the banter was hilarious (in a terrible way). Two pissed up guys in there mid-20's but calling each other names, pushing and shoving like 5 year olds without anything ever really happening. If it was a rugby match, the phrase 'handbags' would have applied excellently. What was most amusing was in all the name calling, not one swear word was used. Ended when one of them (don't know if it was Roger or Qunetin) burst out crying and threatened to tell the other guys Mum on him -I kid you not. :lol:
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tsmoha
A few (first) suggestions from my side. I've listed their projected Max (in a certain role) and the "start-XPs/level" I would suggest.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
5805O'ConnorBen70777370707275535870687070AUSOC4100251119955
6975726868717353587068706840
6872706666697153586967696630
6770696464686953586967696420
6768686363676853586967696310
xxxxHamiltonChris72717767727474556675706869AUSOC410018519955
7170756770737355657369686940
7069726667727255647167676830
6968706665717155636966676820
xxxxFeatonbyJesse67737062717070656271687662AUSOC410081219873
6771706270686965627067746240
325ScotsonMiles76587076747268626571656876AUSOC410018119944
7458697473706762657164687440
7257687271686562657162687230
7057677070666462657161677020


As always, I don't stand 100% tall for the stats, even though I tried (as always) to not suggest over-powered talents/riders. A few changes could be still possible, I guess.

Ben O'Connor - 21 years old

1st GC New Zealand Cycle Classic ('16)
3rd GC Tour de Taiwan ('16)
8th GC Le Tour de Langkawi ('17)
stage New Zealand Cycle Classic ('16)
3rd GC Tour de Savoie Mont Blanc ('16)
16th GC Tour of Qinghai Lake ('15)


WT-rider for Dimension Data, known as a good climber talent. Did very well last year and proved to survive longer stage races as well. Probably doesn't need to be rated as very top talent in the MG, but I guess a solid climber for Aussie wouldn't be too bad in the future.

Chris Hamilton - 21 years old

14th GC Santos Tour Down Under ('16)
7th GC Tour de Taiwan ('16)
8th GC Herald Sun Tour ('16)


Another young WT-rider from Down Under, Hamilton probably should be seen as a better puncheur than climber. Finished 1st in Australia's NC U23 race in 2016. With him, I'm not sure whether to go for 77 maxed HI or 76.. those, who balance the DB, may know better!

Jesse Featonby - 29 years old

9th Oceania Continental Championships - Road Race ('17)
15th GC Herald Sun Tour ('17)
8th GC International Tour de Banyuwangi Ijen ('16)


Professional Triathlet, who is trying road racing for less than two years now. Took a hill/mountain-top finish in an Australian National Road Series race and had a few respectable results on tougher stages this year, too. Certainly not a huge talent/rider to add, but adding some depth may not be too shabby.

Miles Scotson - 23 years old

Reigning Australian road champion, who's proven as a solid TTler as well. Doesn't seem to conquer the WT level, but given his success in the NC, he may deserve an upgrade/change of stats in our DB. Maybe a solid TT-roleur type of guy.
 
viking90
As always I have a hard time getting the stats together, Pfft
Its mainly just suggestions such as rider to add but tried to make up some stats for you guys to change...Cool

I will suggest two riders one Norwegian and one Swedish, I got two interesting Swedish riders born 1996 so will wait for next year to suggest them Smile

Isac Lundgren was very hard to know his strengths, started this season quite good in sprint last year he managed to win KoM in Estonia, not the hardest climbs but anyway a rider who dont be afraid to attack.
https://www.procyc...eason=2016
https://cqranking....erid=23051

SurnameFirstnameFlMoHiTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP Level XP pointsDMYearPot
LundgrenIsac74676862747370607273776962SWDEU410030819924



Amund Grøndahl Jansen also a rider with strength in many terrains but much better then Lundgren. Rider in WT for Lotto now. He can ride on cobblestones, sprint and so on.
https://www.procyc...eason=2016
https://cqranking....erid=20715

SurnameFirstnameFlMoHiTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP pointsDMYearPot
Grøndahl JansenAmund73667269767572787776757670NOREU410011219946
 
Croatia14
Grondahl looks amazing, but with the development system those stats are irreplicateable.
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