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| ringo182 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 13:10
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Yes, it's not ok because it's against the rules.
My point is WHY is it against the rules? Why can't every team push each other. It's a team time trial. Why can't they work as a team and give each other a push if needed.
I understand they have broken the rules. But why is it the rule in the first place. Why not just allow pushing as it's a TEAM time trial.
Then there would be none of this confusion.
Edited by ringo182 on 22-03-2017 13:12
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| roturn |
Posted on 22-03-2017 13:12
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It was explained in both posts above.
The WHY. |
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 22-03-2017 13:13
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It is not allowed to puch in normal races either, the penalty is just very limited. If at all given.
11.2.Pushing amongst team-mates
| Each rider involved: | | 11.2.1. One-Day Race 50 per offence | | 11.2.2. Stage Race 50 + 10’’ per offence |
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 13:13
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No it wasn't. My question is why is it the rule, not why have they been penalised.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 22-03-2017 13:17
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Cause they decided not to allow it. Same reason why those hyperaerodynamic bikes are banned, because they chose to let the riders do it the traditional way instead of making it more dangerous. I can imagine that if pushes were allowed, we get human centipede scenes (well, sorta), where every rider has only one hand on the bike and the other on an arse. Not the stuff you want to see on TT bikes that are already hard to handle.
In a way, this incident reminded me of Porte getting food from the team car and giving it to Froome when it was not allowed anymore. You just can't get the team leaders get away with everything, they need to work for it as well.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 13:22
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Ollfardh wrote:
Cause they decided not to allow it. Same reason why those hyperaerodynamic bikes are banned, because they chose to let the riders do it the traditional way instead of making it more dangerous. I can imagine that if pushes were allowed, we get human centipede scenes (well, sorta), where every rider has only one hand on the bike and the other on an arse. Not the stuff you want to see on TT bikes that are already hard to handle.
I doubt that would ever by very efficient 
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 14:58
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The twitter antics TJ and BMC were up to yesterday was shameless. Totally shameless.
Fuck TJ and BMC. I can't wait to watch Quintana obliterate the 2 rightful Anglos in Italy! |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 15:10
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And I guess it wouldn't be too bad if TJ bonks like he always does and throws away the best opportunity his sorry ass ever will get of winning in Europe! |
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| emre99 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 17:01
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Riis123 wrote:
The twitter antics TJ and BMC were up to yesterday was shameless. Totally shameless.
Fuck TJ and BMC. I can't wait to watch Quintana obliterate the 2 rightful Anglos in Italy!
Don't go that far, just wait 1 week and see tj flop in catalunya despite his 43 seconds 'lead'
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 17:49
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True, he will fuck it up |
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| Choklets |
Posted on 22-03-2017 19:04
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Sore loser. Pity that small man. Cimolai didn't sign in today and the time limit cut wasn't applied also. Great job the organizers are doing there.
What was it you said about that race Riis? "Shitty" and "meh"!
Imagine some1 goes up to the FA with video of a foul at game ro something... |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 22:24
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Just wait till Porte gets a sticky bottle TdF or Greg uses the pavement in Flanders when told they were not allowed to. All hell will be lose now, but BMC have chosen that and thats fair.
Valverde will do everything in his might to win this race now. Tejay wouldn't be the real winner no matter what. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-03-2017 22:27
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I mean, it's not like people didn't complain when the riders used the pavements earlier in the year. The comissaires and UCI just decided to not give a sh*t, despite the 100% clear evidence.
I give all credit to BMC for being willing to call out the infraction. It's not their fault that the punishment doesn't exactly match the level of the rule break, but a rule break is a rule break and rule breaks must be punished or the whole concept of a rule break is broken as a rule.
Did i say rule and break enough?
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 22:48
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How can you give credit to a bunch of riders acting like 5 year old children on Twitter like lil TJ? I simply can't see it. I didn't see no complaints from BMC when Greg won altho that infraction was much, much, MUCH more severe than the 'shoves' (lets call it that, altho it really wasn't).
Basically, its okay to break the rules when you win. When others are 'breaking the rules' (....), its not okay, so lets take to Twitter and act like when we wen't shopping with mom and said we wanted a Nutella, we got two. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 22-03-2017 22:50
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TheManxMissile wrote:
I mean, it's not like people didn't complain when the riders used the pavements earlier in the year. The comissaires and UCI just decided to not give a sh*t, despite the 100% clear evidence.
I give all credit to BMC for being willing to call out the infraction. It's not their fault that the punishment doesn't exactly match the level of the rule break, but a rule break is a rule break and rule breaks must be punished or the whole concept of a rule break is broken as a rule.
Did i say rule and break enough?
Therein lies the real crux of the problem - poorly written rules, poor communication of poorly written rules and inconsistent application of poorly written rules. Did I say poorly written rules enough?
One off season it all needs redrafting with more appropriate penalties than a typical pay-a-dollar-to-break-a-rule, then most importantly it needs to be communicated clearly and consistently applied thereafter. Easier said than done of course...
Until that time we will continue to see widely accepted cheating, with pet phrases it's so normal (sticky bottle anyone?) and occasional outrage when a rule actually gets applied.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 22-03-2017 22:59
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No it was obviously as massive push.......... |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 23-03-2017 13:24
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stage reduced by 58km due to snow and cold weather
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| Selwink |
Posted on 23-03-2017 16:51
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Bouhanni this time does manage to beat Cimolai, with Impey completing the podium. Valverde went on a downhill attack along with Froome, but failed. Biggest surprise for me has to be Edmondson's 4th place (though admittedly I didn't know him very well)
In other news, the Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali had its first two stages today. The morning stage was won by Pichon, who survived from the early break together with Calmejane.
The afternoon stage was the TT which split the teams in two (always interesting). CCC A managed to win ahead of Sky A. Shoutout to Sky B who came 20th with only 2 riders, beating 30 teams in the process.
And finally, what happened with the idea that almost every .1 race and higher was posted here?
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 23-03-2017 17:41
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lol
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 23-03-2017 17:42
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Even looked up the rules 
what a mess tj twitterfingers has created
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