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Paris - Nice 2017
Spilak23
TheManxMissile wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Phil Gil finally seems to have found some shape. 2 amazing days from him!


Imagine his palmares if he never rode for BMC

Yes, it fucked him unfortunately. What happened man..


Because 2 Giro + 3 Veulta Stages, a World Championship and an AGR plus high level consistency in WT and prestige classics is a complete failure Pfft


That's about what he averaged over 2009-2010-2011
 
Riis123
TheManxMissile wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Phil Gil finally seems to have found some shape. 2 amazing days from him!


Imagine his palmares if he never rode for BMC

Yes, it fucked him unfortunately. What happened man..


Because 2 Giro + 3 Veulta Stages, a World Championship and an AGR plus high level consistency in WT and prestige classics is a complete failure Pfft

He was a shadow of his former self.

Went from being the most dominant rider in the world in 2011 to 5 very mediocre years by his standards (yes, he won worlds, still mediocre). Good that he enjoys racing again.

Edit: As a matter of fact, Gilbert's 2011 season was still the best I have witnessed. Better than Boonen in 05 and 12, better than Canc in 10, better than Wiggo 12, Froome 13, Sagan 16 etc.
Edited by Riis123 on 07-03-2017 21:19
 
ringo182
Riis123 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Phil Gil finally seems to have found some shape. 2 amazing days from him!


Imagine his palmares if he never rode for BMC

Yes, it fucked him unfortunately. What happened man..


Because 2 Giro + 3 Veulta Stages, a World Championship and an AGR plus high level consistency in WT and prestige classics is a complete failure Pfft

He was a shadow of his former self.

Went from being the most dominant rider in the world in 2011 to 5 very mediocre years by his standards (yes, he won worlds, still mediocre). Good that he enjoys racing again.

Edit: As a matter of fact, Gilbert's 2011 season was still the best I have witnessed. Better than Boonen in 05 and 12, better than Canc in 10, better than Wiggo 12, Froome 13, Sagan 16 etc.


How bout Cavendish 09. Milan San Remo, 6 Tour stages, 4 Giro stages, 24 wins in total Smile Not saying it's better than Gilbert, just deserves to be mentioned with the above.

I agree that Gilbert's 2011 season was amazing. It does probably edge all of the above and, given the level of cycling these days, the 3 Ardennes classics in one year achievement will probably not be done again for a very long time, if ever.
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Avin Wargunnson
Indeed incredible achievement, but i am not sure why is everybody praising Gilbert himself, since Dr. Ibarguren has probably similar importance in this feat. Those two should be mentioned in pair, when talking about 2011 triple...
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Spilak23
Ibarguren wasn't there in 2009 and 2010 and he was just as great those years
 
canojuancho
Ollfardh wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Quick Step Floors spring 2017:

#GaviriaMSR17
#GilbertRvV17
#BoonenP-R17


Lampaert Dwars Door Vlaanderen
Stybar E3
Terpstra Gent-Wevelgem
Kittel Scheldeprijs
Vakoc Brabantse Pijl
Jungels Amstel Gold Race
Alaphillipe Fleche
Martin L-B-L


Sounds easy...but all we know that QuickStep, last years, found the way to be a mess in spring classics.

Really hope, this years will be different.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Spilak23 wrote:
Ibarguren wasn't there in 2009 and 2010 and he was just as great those years

I cant agree, he was on the different planet in 2011. Btw iirc Dr. Taus was with Omega Pharma since 2010?
I'll be back
 
Riis123
Me neither, but he was still much, much better in 09-10 than post 2011
 
TheManxMissile
Riis123 wrote:
Me neither, but he was still much, much better in 09-10 than post 2011


So we can confirm, Team Sky caused Gilbert to decline
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ringo182
TheManxMissile wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Me neither, but he was still much, much better in 09-10 than post 2011


So we can confirm, Team Sky caused Gilbert to decline


Yes. It's also their fault for Brexit, Donald Trump and the middle eastern refugee crisis.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
 
Strydz
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Ibarguren wasn't there in 2009 and 2010 and he was just as great those years

I cant agree, he was on the different planet in 2011. Btw iirc Dr. Taus was with Omega Pharma since 2010?


Dr. Jose Ibarguren Taus has been with that outfit since 2010, but you know, nothing to see here Wink
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Kirchen_75

 
Strydz
I know I'm in the minority around here but DAMN I love time trials Smile
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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Strydz
Alaphilippe smashed that to pieces
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
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Kirchen_75
<3 Jalaphilippe. The passion he rides with is amazing.
 
Riis123
Alaphilippe = Valv.Piti 2006
 
Strydz
What the hell is Matthews doing inside of that top 10?
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
 
DiCyc
Strydz wrote:
What the hell is Matthews doing inside of that top 10?


I heard in a quick interview after the TT that he even crashed during the climb.
TIM WELLENS BERGEN 2017

 
Strydz
DiCyc wrote:
Strydz wrote:
What the hell is Matthews doing inside of that top 10?


I heard in a quick interview after the TT that he even crashed during the climb.


Well then that just makes it even more of a result.... Matthews for AGR this season
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
 
Kalach
Is it possible to compare somewhere Contador vs Alaphilippe times during the climb? Who was faster?
 
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