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Posted on 07-03-2017 20:45
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TheManxMissile wrote:
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Phil Gil finally seems to have found some shape. 2 amazing days from him!
Imagine his palmares if he never rode for BMC
Yes, it fucked him unfortunately. What happened man..
Because 2 Giro + 3 Veulta Stages, a World Championship and an AGR plus high level consistency in WT and prestige classics is a complete failure
That's about what he averaged over 2009-2010-2011
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Riis123 |
Posted on 07-03-2017 20:48
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Phil Gil finally seems to have found some shape. 2 amazing days from him!
Imagine his palmares if he never rode for BMC
Yes, it fucked him unfortunately. What happened man..
Because 2 Giro + 3 Veulta Stages, a World Championship and an AGR plus high level consistency in WT and prestige classics is a complete failure
He was a shadow of his former self.
Went from being the most dominant rider in the world in 2011 to 5 very mediocre years by his standards (yes, he won worlds, still mediocre). Good that he enjoys racing again.
Edit: As a matter of fact, Gilbert's 2011 season was still the best I have witnessed. Better than Boonen in 05 and 12, better than Canc in 10, better than Wiggo 12, Froome 13, Sagan 16 etc.
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ringo182 |
Posted on 08-03-2017 08:06
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Riis123 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Phil Gil finally seems to have found some shape. 2 amazing days from him!
Imagine his palmares if he never rode for BMC
Yes, it fucked him unfortunately. What happened man..
Because 2 Giro + 3 Veulta Stages, a World Championship and an AGR plus high level consistency in WT and prestige classics is a complete failure
He was a shadow of his former self.
Went from being the most dominant rider in the world in 2011 to 5 very mediocre years by his standards (yes, he won worlds, still mediocre). Good that he enjoys racing again.
Edit: As a matter of fact, Gilbert's 2011 season was still the best I have witnessed. Better than Boonen in 05 and 12, better than Canc in 10, better than Wiggo 12, Froome 13, Sagan 16 etc.
How bout Cavendish 09. Milan San Remo, 6 Tour stages, 4 Giro stages, 24 wins in total Not saying it's better than Gilbert, just deserves to be mentioned with the above.
I agree that Gilbert's 2011 season was amazing. It does probably edge all of the above and, given the level of cycling these days, the 3 Ardennes classics in one year achievement will probably not be done again for a very long time, if ever.
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Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-03-2017 08:10
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Indeed incredible achievement, but i am not sure why is everybody praising Gilbert himself, since Dr. Ibarguren has probably similar importance in this feat. Those two should be mentioned in pair, when talking about 2011 triple...
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Spilak23 |
Posted on 08-03-2017 10:21
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Ibarguren wasn't there in 2009 and 2010 and he was just as great those years
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canojuancho |
Posted on 08-03-2017 13:13
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Ollfardh wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Quick Step Floors spring 2017:
#GaviriaMSR17
#GilbertRvV17
#BoonenP-R17
Lampaert Dwars Door Vlaanderen
Stybar E3
Terpstra Gent-Wevelgem
Kittel Scheldeprijs
Vakoc Brabantse Pijl
Jungels Amstel Gold Race
Alaphillipe Fleche
Martin L-B-L
Sounds easy...but all we know that QuickStep, last years, found the way to be a mess in spring classics.
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Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-03-2017 13:38
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Spilak23 wrote:
Ibarguren wasn't there in 2009 and 2010 and he was just as great those years
I cant agree, he was on the different planet in 2011. Btw iirc Dr. Taus was with Omega Pharma since 2010?
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Riis123 |
Posted on 08-03-2017 13:44
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Me neither, but he was still much, much better in 09-10 than post 2011 |
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-03-2017 13:48
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Riis123 wrote:
Me neither, but he was still much, much better in 09-10 than post 2011
So we can confirm, Team Sky caused Gilbert to decline
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ringo182 |
Posted on 08-03-2017 13:57
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Yes. It's also their fault for Brexit, Donald Trump and the middle eastern refugee crisis.
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Strydz |
Posted on 08-03-2017 15:06
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Ibarguren wasn't there in 2009 and 2010 and he was just as great those years
I cant agree, he was on the different planet in 2011. Btw iirc Dr. Taus was with Omega Pharma since 2010?
Dr. Jose Ibarguren Taus has been with that outfit since 2010, but you know, nothing to see here
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Posted on 08-03-2017 15:12
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Posted on 08-03-2017 15:26
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I know I'm in the minority around here but DAMN I love time trials
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Posted on 08-03-2017 15:31
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Alaphilippe smashed that to pieces
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Posted on 08-03-2017 15:31
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<3 Jalaphilippe. The passion he rides with is amazing. |
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Riis123 |
Posted on 08-03-2017 15:34
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Alaphilippe = Valv.Piti 2006 |
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Strydz |
Posted on 08-03-2017 15:39
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What the hell is Matthews doing inside of that top 10?
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DiCyc |
Posted on 08-03-2017 15:44
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Strydz wrote:
What the hell is Matthews doing inside of that top 10?
I heard in a quick interview after the TT that he even crashed during the climb.
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Strydz |
Posted on 08-03-2017 15:49
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DiCyc wrote:
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What the hell is Matthews doing inside of that top 10?
I heard in a quick interview after the TT that he even crashed during the climb.
Well then that just makes it even more of a result.... Matthews for AGR this season
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Posted on 08-03-2017 16:04
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Is it possible to compare somewhere Contador vs Alaphilippe times during the climb? Who was faster? |
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