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| Paul23 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:17
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The Schleck Fan wrote:
What do you guys think about the refugees in your countries?
Personally I despise them because of their culture(!)(e.g.bombs exploding everywhere, girls being married at 12 years old,girls being in turban,sheet etc., people saying Arabic should be a language, people being against seculars,the crimes increasing such as rape,kill,stab,theft; and many more things.)
PS:In this country many religious fanatics do the thing between the brackets and with the refugees being in this country it is even worse.
I am an Ataturk supporter btw.
Hi, I'm Paul. People may know me. I totally agree with you, but not all refugees are bad. But I know how you feel, you disgusting nazi.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:28
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Here in the United States I am totally against them. Shooting at Ohio State last week was a Muslim refugee who has been here for 2 years now. Its just happening too much today and it always seems to be a refugee.
I like the Skittles reference that was made by Donald Trump's son a few months ago. If you had a bowl of skittles, say 100, and 2 of those skittles would Poison you and kill you if you ate them, how many would you grab out of that bowl and eat?
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:30
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:30
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jseadog1 wrote:
Here in the United States I am totally against them. Shooting at Ohio State last week was a Muslim refugee who has been here for 2 years now. Its just happening too much today and it always seems to be a refugee.
I like the Skittles reference that was made by Donald Trump's son a few months ago. If you had a bowl of skittles, say 100, and 2 of those skittles would Poison you and kill you if you ate them, how many would you grab out of that bowl and eat?
Waghlon would eat them all, cause he's a fat obese cunt. Urge is too strong.
I'm sure this is relevant somehow.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:38
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Alakagom wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
Here in the United States I am totally against them. Shooting at Ohio State last week was a Muslim refugee who has been here for 2 years now. Its just happening too much today and it always seems to be a refugee.
I like the Skittles reference that was made by Donald Trump's son a few months ago. If you had a bowl of skittles, say 100, and 2 of those skittles would Poison you and kill you if you ate them, how many would you grab out of that bowl and eat?
Waghlon would eat them all, cause he's a fat obese cunt. Urge is too strong.
I'm sure this is relevant somehow.
At most he would only get 99 because he would die after eating the first poisonous one 
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:44
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jseadog1 wrote:
Here in the United States I am totally against them. Shooting at Ohio State last week was a Muslim refugee who has been here for 2 years now. Its just happening too much today and it always seems to be a refugee.
Sandy Hook Shooting - 24 Dead, 2 Injured. Carried out by a born and raised American in the heart of Connecticut.
Umpqua College Shooting - 10 Dead, 9 Injured. Carried out by a born and raised American
Marysville Pilchuck Shooting - 5 Dead, 1 Injured. Carried out by a born and rasied Native American, the most American of Americans.
Alabama Huntsville Shooting - 3 Dead, 3 Injured. Carried out by a born and raised American
Chardon School Shooting - 3 Dead, 3 Injured. Carried out by a born and raised American.
Jacksonville Episcopal Shooting - 3 Dead, 3 Injured. Carried out by a born and raised American.
Hazard College Shooting - 3 Dead. Carried out by a born and raised American.
Millard South Shooting - Carried out by a born and raised American
Rashford University Shooting - Carried out by a born and raised American
Araphoe Shooting - Carried out by a born and raised American
Reynolds Shooting - Carried out by a born and raised American
Ohio State Shooting 2010 - Carried out by a born and raised American
And i could go on for quite a while.... which is so incredibly depression for a whole number of reasons.
I think more than 2 Skittles are poisoned
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:48
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@TMM I was mostly talking about Turkey in my post btw. |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:49
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And he quoted jdog's post
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 18:52
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So start listing ones that have been from Un-American people. You would probably have just as long of a list if not at least more casualties.. The Florida Gay Night Club... This Ohio State one, multiple ones in movie theaters.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:07
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Running the maths on the skittles analogy gave you a bowl of several billion skittles.
Also, can we really blame them for exploding bombs becoming part of their culture? It is us dropping them after all.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:11
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I know.But I felt it was necessary to say |
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:15
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Well the main point is it was asked what was thought of refugees. I think they are a bad idea and should be going through more complex background checks.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:16
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Also, can we really blame them for exploding bombs becoming part of their culture? It is us dropping them after all.
The western countries are obviously very culpable. They supported both the religious terrorists and the racist terrorists.
However the people who explode bombs (both religious terrorists and racist terrorists) are thinking to kill us in every chance they get. And, as a secular person living in Turkey, I feel very worried. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:27
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jseadog1 wrote:
So start listing ones that have been from Un-American people. You would probably have just as long of a list if not at least more casualties.. The Florida Gay Night Club... This Ohio State one, multiple ones in movie theaters.
So from a list of 127 Shootings from 2010 to now the results are:
American 73
Immigrant 11
Unkown 43
Non-Muslim 78
Muslim 2
Unknown 47
Now i'll admit, this is only 127 shootings and is way short of the total number commited in the USA since 2010. And as you can see there are a number of occasions of "Unknown", this being where either no-one was caught or i couldn't find the information (i'm not going to spend hours trawling google to find every detail on every shooting).
But it's a good sample size either way, and certainly enough to support my argument that Americans are at the least as dangerous to themselves are Immigrant's or Muslims or Immigrant Muslims are.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:47
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TheManxMissile wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
So start listing ones that have been from Un-American people. You would probably have just as long of a list if not at least more casualties.. The Florida Gay Night Club... This Ohio State one, multiple ones in movie theaters.
So from a list of 127 Shootings from 2010 to now the results are:
American 73
Immigrant 11
Unkown 43
Non-Muslim 78
Muslim 2
Unknown 47
Now i'll admit, this is only 127 shootings and is way short of the total number commited in the USA since 2010. And as you can see there are a number of occasions of "Unknown", this being where either no-one was caught or i couldn't find the information (i'm not going to spend hours trawling google to find every detail on every shooting).
But it's a good sample size either way, and certainly enough to support my argument that Americans are at the least as dangerous to themselves are Immigrant's or Muslims or Immigrant Muslims are.
I don't really want to get involved in this as one of my new years resolutions is to be less argumentative on this site, however if you consider that "American Americans" probably make up 99% of the population and refugees 1% (only example figures) you figure of 73 American and 11 refugee shootings actually shows an enormous leaning towards refugees if you use shootings per person rather than the actual number of shootings.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:52
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Also refugees and immigrants are two very different things. I think the two are getting a bit confused in this thread.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:54
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ringo182 wrote:
I don't really want to get involved in this as one of my new years resolutions is to be less argumentative on this site, however if you consider that "American Americans" probably make up 99% of the population and refugees 1% (only example figures) you figure of 73 American and 11 refugee shootings actually shows an enormous leaning towards refugees if you use shootings per person rather than the actual number of shootings.
Immigrants, not Refugees. I think it broke down as something like: 2 Russians, 1 Korean, 1 Indian, 1 Pakistani, 1 Lebanese and various Hispanics/Latinos (although can't remember exactly). Of those, none came as Refugees, but rather immigrants coming for work or education.
And in 2014 (best data i could find at a quick glance) the Immigrant Population stood at 13.3% (about 42.4million).
And that 11 out of 127 would be 8.7%.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 06-12-2016 19:56
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ringo182 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
So start listing ones that have been from Un-American people. You would probably have just as long of a list if not at least more casualties.. The Florida Gay Night Club... This Ohio State one, multiple ones in movie theaters.
So from a list of 127 Shootings from 2010 to now the results are:
American 73
Immigrant 11
Unkown 43
Non-Muslim 78
Muslim 2
Unknown 47
Now i'll admit, this is only 127 shootings and is way short of the total number commited in the USA since 2010. And as you can see there are a number of occasions of "Unknown", this being where either no-one was caught or i couldn't find the information (i'm not going to spend hours trawling google to find every detail on every shooting).
But it's a good sample size either way, and certainly enough to support my argument that Americans are at the least as dangerous to themselves are Immigrant's or Muslims or Immigrant Muslims are.
I don't really want to get involved in this as one of my new years resolutions is to be less argumentative on this site, however if you consider that "American Americans" probably make up 99% of the population and refugees 1% (only example figures) you figure of 73 American and 11 refugee shootings actually shows an enormous leaning towards refugees if you use shootings per person rather than the actual number of shootings.
For someone who talked about immigrants and refugees getting confused, you jumped straight from immigrants to refugees there.
Also, "American Americans" might need to be fleshed out a bit more as a phrase.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 20:04
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
So start listing ones that have been from Un-American people. You would probably have just as long of a list if not at least more casualties.. The Florida Gay Night Club... This Ohio State one, multiple ones in movie theaters.
So from a list of 127 Shootings from 2010 to now the results are:
American 73
Immigrant 11
Unkown 43
Non-Muslim 78
Muslim 2
Unknown 47
Now i'll admit, this is only 127 shootings and is way short of the total number commited in the USA since 2010. And as you can see there are a number of occasions of "Unknown", this being where either no-one was caught or i couldn't find the information (i'm not going to spend hours trawling google to find every detail on every shooting).
But it's a good sample size either way, and certainly enough to support my argument that Americans are at the least as dangerous to themselves are Immigrant's or Muslims or Immigrant Muslims are.
I don't really want to get involved in this as one of my new years resolutions is to be less argumentative on this site, however if you consider that "American Americans" probably make up 99% of the population and refugees 1% (only example figures) you figure of 73 American and 11 refugee shootings actually shows an enormous leaning towards refugees if you use shootings per person rather than the actual number of shootings.
For someone who talked about immigrants and refugees getting confused, you jumped straight from immigrants to refugees there.
Also, "American Americans" might need to be fleshed out a bit more as a phrase.
I'm quoting refugees as that is what people have been talking about throughout the thread. I misread TMMs post so apologies.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 06-12-2016 20:32
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Immigration is always going to be a huge issue. This year the brexit vote, Trump a nd the recent Italian referendum have all been won and lost on this issue.
Immigration is a good thing in moderation. However for too long people's concerns have not been listened to which has lead to an increase in right wing politics in many countries.
You can't simply call people racist for having concerns about immigration, particularly in Europe where it is forced upon countries by the EU. Ehile I don't believe the vast majority of immigrants carry any risk of carrying out acts of terrorism, I do believe that many countries have to listen to the concerns of the population or there will be many more Brexits and Trumps over the next few years.
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