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Eneco Tour 2016
Shonak
Gold Van Avermaet and 2agan lead the startlist, which boasts an impressive amount of names including Tommeke, Major Tom and Geraint Thomas. Also guys who don't have T(h)om in their names are present but start with a K, like Kristoff, Kittel or Kwiatek. Benoot, Gaviria, Stuvyen and Van Baarle lead the youth bloc.. it should be an exciting race despite that the lack of hills hurts Wellens three in a row-chances.

So with a real ardennes type stage missing, the cobblez are still there. Stage 4 and the final stage to Geraardsbergen will see the classic guys at the front, whilst a TT (10k) and TTT(!) favors the likes of Tony Martin.

Is just it down to the in-form beasts GVA vs Sagan? Will Gaviria top Kittel, what ca Etixx generally do? Can Benoot finally make Alak happy by getting a win?
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If I have the time for it I'll probably go check along the route (so if you see someone with more hair than body in Sneek (around 60km from the finish) it's probably me Grin

Van Avermaet massive favourite for me. Strongest TTT squad I think, not a bad ITT, plus Geraardsbergen as well. Think Dumoulin and indeed Tony Martin could do well here, Stybar as well I think. Dark horse for me is Van Emden. Sagan I think lacks the TTT squad to really be a contender.
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Aquarius97
Sagan will lose around 30 seconds in TTT against van Avermaet, but you should remember that in this race we have lots of bonus time, with that golden km. And i think he can do it better than GVA in the ITT. He has always been good in ITT shorter than 10 km, and this one is 9,5 km.

And the sprints here in Eneco are not Tour's sprints. Narrow roads in the last km, where Sagan is always really impresive (like in Tour de Suisse).

IMO, if someone different to Sagan, GVA and Dumoulin wins this, will be a big surprise
 
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No Cav and Viviani this year, Viviani is ill, don't know about Cav.

Just realized that stage 1 could have been improved very easily. In Sneek they could've easily passed the Waterpoort (our main monument, in IJlst De Rat is skipped. Stavoren seems to be skipped altogether unfortunately. Hindeloopen is just passed, while the town center is very interesting, same with Workum. This extra distance could easily have been compensated by removing one of those stupid local laps.
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Riis123
They made the right call to lure the sprinters (5 stages) from a marketing POV, but it will hurt the racing with only 1 hard stage excluding the time trials.

Unfortunately Gavaria isn't going to show up, Boonen and Kittel getting the call there, so thats a bummer. As for the overall, I think Izagirre will have good chances and might be a real dark horse with the ITT and TTT.

Hoping for GVA to win.
 
Shonak
No Gaviria? Sad face.. I already bet on another rider cuz of him damn it :lol:
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Riis123
Yeah, he was my big interest for this race now that they have screwed Tim Wellens and the Ardenne-types over.

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DiCyc
Tim Wellens to do another legendary move to win Eneco Tour Pfft
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Spilak23
Riis123 wrote:
Yeah, he was my big interest for this race now that they have screwed Tim Wellens and the Ardenne-types over.


Stage 4's final lap is quite hilly. It's the old Brabantse Pijl lap with Bruineput and Alsemberg. Also has some cobbles right before the first hill on the lap. Really looking forward to that one.
 
Aquarius97
Groenewegen wins stage 1. Bouhanni second, Sagan third
 
TimoCycling
Groenewegen BEAST
 
Dusen
Great win from Groenewegen in a messy sprint.

I'm always suprised how Sagan always gets in the mix in these messy sprints, compared to Kittel and Greipel who often gets caught and loses their sprint chance.
 
Aquarius97
Dusen wrote:
Great win from Groenewegen in a messy sprint.

I'm always suprised how Sagan always gets in the mix in these messy sprints, compared to Kittel and Greipel who often gets caught and loses their sprint chance.


And the fact that in 90% of sprints he is on the wheel of the winner, or he wins
 
Riis123
Dusen wrote:
Great win from Groenewegen in a messy sprint.

I'm always suprised how Sagan always gets in the mix in these messy sprints, compared to Kittel and Greipel who often gets caught and loses their sprint chance.

Because Sagan is the much superior bike rider to Kittel who needs a train to be competitive. Greipel is much more versatile, but I definitely do think he is on the decline as of now. He seems to get scared on occasions and is at times a no-show.

Its funny how all the best sprinters are present apart from Cav and then Groenewegen, of all people, wins.
 
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Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Great win from Groenewegen in a messy sprint.

I'm always suprised how Sagan always gets in the mix in these messy sprints, compared to Kittel and Greipel who often gets caught and loses their sprint chance.

Because Sagan is the much superior bike rider to Kittel who needs a train to be competitive. Greipel is much more versatile, but I definitely do think he is on the decline as of now. He seems to get scared on occasions and is at times a no-show.

Its funny how all the best sprinters are present apart from Cav and then Groenewegen, of all people, wins.


Yeah, but there is a bit of "chance" involved in sprints like these. But that's what you get when you have 10-12 top sprinters in a race, that all have a lead out train they want to sit behind, shit gets messy Pfft
 
TimoCycling
@Riis: It's Groenewegen's 10th win this season, he beat the big riders already on different occassions. Not the biggest surprise when you watch cycling regularly. He was definitely up there as a stage contender.
 
Strydz
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@Riis: It's Groenewegen's 10th win this season, he beat the big riders already on different occassions. Not the biggest surprise when you watch cycling regularly. He was definitely up there as a stage contender.


Yep Groenewegen's a sprinter on the up in a late season WT race so no surprise to see him come out in front of the established top shelf sprinters. He's good enough to compete against these guys
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Strydz wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
@Riis: It's Groenewegen's 10th win this season, he beat the big riders already on different occassions. Not the biggest surprise when you watch cycling regularly. He was definitely up there as a stage contender.


Yep Groenewegen's a sprinter on the up in a late season WT race so no surprise to see him come out in front of the established top shelf sprinters. He's good enough to compete against these guys

Nah, it was a huge surprise seeing who he was going up against. He didnt beat one or two, he basically beat everyone. Wins doesn't really matter, many lesser sprinters can win 10-12 wins a year. Groenewegen's so far are relatively minor - look no further than the Tour where he had a really hard time.
 
Aquarius97
I can't believe this. Kiryienka has done a Delgado in Luxembourg.

He has arrived 45 seconds late at the start


 
Dusen
Kiriyenka has been a disgrace this season, never have we had a time trial champion who has showed of his jersey this badly.
 
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