Vuelta á Espana 2016
|
Riis123 |
Posted on 06-09-2016 13:36
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5075
Joined: 07-08-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
There is some truth to that statement tho, Shonak; there is a reason La Vuelta has gone murito-insane in those years Rodriguez and Valverde were in their prime and contested the race every year (2012-2015). |
|
|
|
Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-09-2016 13:46
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
That is not a possibility, that is 100% obvious thing, that Vuelta parcours in recent years are structured to suit the strenght of spanish riders.
|
|
|
|
ringo182 |
Posted on 06-09-2016 13:54
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3472
Joined: 03-01-2008
PCM$: 1348.00
|
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
That is not a possibility, that is 100% obvious thing, that Vuelta parcours in recent years are structured to suit the strenght of spanish riders.
Hence the lack of proper sprint stages
But then again if that was completely true the Vuelta would simply be the Fleche Wallone route for 21 days |
|
|
|
Ad Bot |
Posted on 23-11-2024 01:40
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
IP: None |
|
|
Ian Butler |
Posted on 06-09-2016 13:58
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21854
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
ringo182 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
That is not a possibility, that is 100% obvious thing, that Vuelta parcours in recent years are structured to suit the strenght of spanish riders.
Hence the lack of proper sprint stages
But then again if that was completely true the Vuelta would simply be the Fleche Wallone route for 21 days
Actually how cool an idea is that?
Except not with Fleche Wallone, but P-R or RvV or Lombardia or something;
Just 21 days of the same profile. Wonder what that'd give. |
|
|
|
Shonak |
Posted on 06-09-2016 14:23
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
Riis123 wrote:
There is some truth to that statement tho, Shonak; there is a reason La Vuelta has gone murito-insane in those years Rodriguez and Valverde were in their prime and contested the race every year (2012-2015).
But the topic has been sprint stages, not Muritos which rather replace the classic transition and breakaway stages than pure sprint ones imo, which are replaced by hilly sprints, perfect for bouhanni and meersman
I also have some more to add but I am on phone in university so later maybe.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
|
|
|
Shonak |
Posted on 06-09-2016 19:14
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
Froome would have preferred to follow the rules and execute the OOT limit.
https://velonews.c...olo_420038
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
|
|
|
Ian Butler |
Posted on 06-09-2016 19:20
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21854
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
Froome is awesome.
Because,
Froome also wins. |
|
|
|
Alakagom |
Posted on 06-09-2016 19:34
|
World Champion
Posts: 10891
Joined: 19-11-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Even though I love Froomey lad, it really doesn't matter what he says after the event. He's going say what fans would like to hear.
|
|
|
|
Ollfardh |
Posted on 06-09-2016 19:35
|
World Champion
Posts: 14563
Joined: 08-08-2011
PCM$: 9100.00
|
Easy to say after the decision has been made..
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
|
|
|
|
baseballlover312 |
Posted on 06-09-2016 19:47
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 16429
Joined: 27-07-2011
PCM$: 10438.70
|
He says that now but I doubt if it had gone the other way he wouldn't have been complaining.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
|
|
|
|
Riis123 |
Posted on 06-09-2016 21:42
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5075
Joined: 07-08-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Yeah exactly, but lets give him the benefit of the doubt. I like that statement from Froomey, Contador was very adamant about it as well. Its good to hear the big stars speak out. |
|
|
|
larsaliknt |
Posted on 06-09-2016 22:33
|
Under 23
Posts: 52
Joined: 11-02-2016
PCM$: 200.00
|
Riis123 wrote:
Yeah exactly, but lets give him the benefit of the doubt. I like that statement from Froomey, Contador was very adamant about it as well. Its good to hear the big stars speak out.
I agree, though we all know that it doesn't really matter what he says. Froome also wins no matter what. |
|
|
|
Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 07-09-2016 07:22
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
Pathetic liar, i dont believe him a word.
|
|
|
|
Strydz |
Posted on 07-09-2016 07:25
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
Ian Butler wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
That is not a possibility, that is 100% obvious thing, that Vuelta parcours in recent years are structured to suit the strenght of spanish riders.
Hence the lack of proper sprint stages
But then again if that was completely true the Vuelta would simply be the Fleche Wallone route for 21 days
Actually how cool an idea is that?
Except not with Fleche Wallone, but P-R or RvV or Lombardia or something;
Just 21 days of the same profile. Wonder what that'd give.
21 straight days of P-R or RVV would see alot of broken wheels, bikes and bones
I'd happily see 21 straight days of Tro-Bro Léon profiles, now that would be fun!
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
|
|
|
|
Strydz |
Posted on 07-09-2016 07:28
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
He most likely is telling the truth but it's easy to take that position after the fact, I bet he wouldn't of taken the hard line view had 8 of his teammate been eliminated
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
|
|
|
|
Guido Mukk |
Posted on 07-09-2016 07:28
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15830
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Alakagom wrote:
Even though I love Froomey lad, it really doesn't matter what he says after the event. He's going say what fans would like to hear.
You got it this time 100%. For some reason Froome is unpopular rider (specially in france)..I really don't know why? Here it is simple..few fanboys with lower then 15 iq made it impossible to even like a little.
About Froome statement after Valverde ..let's ban power meters. he was fast to replay ..that he actually used instinct today...nooot!
About time limit thing..same thing. He is doing anything to be more likeable person for fans.
Same time we all did see how fast he and Brailsford was running around and open the correct doors after Tour running incident...to make sure decision will be what they wanted (he would have won that tour easy even decision had been different).
Edit:
They never liked each other. Wiggins mocking Froome..
https://road.cc/sites/default/files/st...k=bIS2ZI1p
Edited by Guido Mukk on 07-09-2016 07:36
|
|
|
|
ringo182 |
Posted on 07-09-2016 08:21
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3472
Joined: 03-01-2008
PCM$: 1348.00
|
Obviously Froome has said what he said once the decision to allow riders to stay had been made, which made it much easier to say. I agree he probably would have had something different to say if the opposite decision had been made, but so would everyone else.
Several other riders have also said it but only Froome/Sky are being called liars and cheats. This is what annoys me about this site. |
|
|
|
Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 07-09-2016 08:31
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
ringo182 wrote:
Obviously Froome has said what he said once the decision to allow riders to stay had been made, which made it much easier to say. I agree he probably would have had something different to say if the opposite decision had been made, but so would everyone else.
Several other riders have also said it but only Froome/Sky are being called liars and cheats. This is what annoys me about this site.
Can you direct me to the other posts here in the thread when other riders say something like Froome day AFTER the incident?
Maybe i have skipped some, because i would call pathetic liar every other leader who would lost majority of domestiques by that, what he call for...
|
|
|
|
ringo182 |
Posted on 07-09-2016 08:32
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3472
Joined: 03-01-2008
PCM$: 1348.00
|
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Obviously Froome has said what he said once the decision to allow riders to stay had been made, which made it much easier to say. I agree he probably would have had something different to say if the opposite decision had been made, but so would everyone else.
Several other riders have also said it but only Froome/Sky are being called liars and cheats. This is what annoys me about this site.
Can you direct me to the other posts here in the thread when other riders say something like Froome day AFTER the incident?
Maybe i have skipped some, because i would call pathetic liar every other leader who would lost majority of domestiques by that, what he call for...
It's been pointed out Contador has said the same thing. |
|
|
|
Shonak |
Posted on 07-09-2016 08:34
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
You do understand that for Contador and Froome these are entirely different circumstances, right?
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
|
|