Arberg27 wrote:
Brian Vandborg ex pro rider:

I think generally there is a bad tendency with much unnecessary whining. We can see you are overthrown, and we can see you've beaten you. But in general I am tired of hearing it that 'I completely finished' mentality.

We all have tried smoking down, and half the time they beat themselves not very much. It burns a little, and it is tiresome to get a bruise.

But I have never ever seen Contador be out and say, 'That's fine, nothing happened'. Never. There is always something wrong.

https://sport.tv2.dk/cykling/2016-08-3...t-contador

matt17br wrote:
Of course we base that on 3D racing, playing on hard - not that it makes a difference AI wise whether you play extreme or easy unless you are controlling a team.

The Schleck Fan wrote:
Did you guys watched Zakarin this year? Madone d'Utelle, Morgins, Andalo were very strong performances by him and he was also having pretty good performances the other days. He totally deserves 80.

marius434 wrote:
Mollema 78-79
Zakarin 80-81
really? we are rating right now or in the future ....right now (this season ) Mollema is better that Zakarin for sure
Zakarin best result :
2015: won the tour de romandie;4 in tour de pologne and 3rd in artic race of norway
2016: 4 tour de romandie; 4 paris-nice
No big GT results ..... and if you think giro is enough where are some decent climbers but only first 5 places(are GT star) from 5-15 there are only decent climbers no big names (last year Hesjedal for example was 5 .. right now even top 10 places are hard for him..and others like siutsou,atapuma,dupont and visconti are in top 15 )
So giro with a DNF is not enough to make him 80-81 maybe next year with a top 10 in a GT
Is good but not better than bauke or even others 78-79

Tafiolmo wrote:


When it comes to giving out high 70's and 80's stats they're not actually given out lightly, so for example when we proposed 80 for Zakarin it was agreed instantly by everybody on the stats team and I even remember one of the team actually suggesting 81 for him which then we thought was too high and that was quite a few months ago now. Zakarin this season has shown that he's one of the most explosive climbers in the peloton and well worth 80 mtn and he's sustained this level throughout the season when he hasn't crashed.

Riders at this level are never rated for the future and the 81 that you're mentioning is just what I feel he's capable of achieving in the near future BUT until he ever performs at that level he'll never be an 81 and only 2017 now will reveal where he will go with his stats.

JPQM97: Chaves makes a good 79 mtn rider as he still lacks what's needed to actually win a GT BUT he has one advantage over a lot of other mtn climbers and that is his huge acc stat which will enable him to build leads on climbs and in many ways will probably perform like an 80 anyway.

Also as has been mentioned many times by us, riders are usually not drastically increased or decreased because they've had a great or poor race, but we always try to build/change a rider over a period of time, so in the case of Chaves starting with Vuelta 2015 he's gradually been increased to 77 then 78 and most recently to 79 and if we feel at the end of this year's Vuelta he's worth 80 we'll give him 80.

Likewise given the collapse of TVG a rider who not so long ago was justifying his increase to 80 looks like getting decreases but these decreases will be gradual and not drastic, unless of course he comes back guns blazing in 2017.