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| ringo182 |
Posted on 23-08-2016 12:51
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Froome in Vuelta is not Froome in Tour---he will fade and finish outside of podium or 3rd at best.
Froome will be fine. But you are correct about Froome and TdF. I just finished he's book.. This man is obsessed about Tdf (always has been) as Lance was.
But surely he's been there and done that with the Tour. His palmares will always be questioned if the Tour is the only GT he wins. Also what does he gain by racing the Vuelta less than 100%? His aim is to win it so I wouldn't be so sure that his form/condition is any less then at the Tour. He's already won a stage and put 1.30 into Contador.
As I said earlier, his aim is to win the Vuelta and the win the Giro next year and then the Tour again. He will then hold all 3 GTs at once and will have won 4 GT's in a row.
That's the plan. Whether or not he'll achieve it is another question. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 23-08-2016 13:02
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Bertie seems to be out of competition anyway. |
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 23-08-2016 13:08
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Froome in Vuelta is not Froome in Tour---he will fade and finish outside of podium or 3rd at best.
Froome will be fine. But you are correct about Froome and TdF. I just finished he's book.. This man is obsessed about Tdf (always has been) as Lance was.
I think Sky is obsesed with Tour, not Froome. Froome has ridden in last 6 years, 5 times Tour and 5 times Vuelta.
Armstrong never rode Giro or Vuelta in his 7 years of Tour's wins and only rode in his career once both GT (Vuelta in 98', 4th overall; Giro in 09', 11º overall) |
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| larsaliknt |
Posted on 23-08-2016 13:19
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The way I see it...
Contador: He's not in the best position to win, neither is this his best season. But I still remember that Vuelta where he launched an attack 80km. away from the finish line and ended up winning. He's not the kind of rider one would take for granted.
Valverde: This is definetly his most succesful race and so far he seems to be hanging on there pretty well. Tiredness is his biggest enemy though, which leads me to
Froome: Arguably the best GT rider of the moment, he is covered by a team that can virtually control anything. Unless his rivals step up, he remains as the top favourite in my humble, undocumented opinion.
Quintana: No, he is NOT overrated, people... he's just not Marco Pantani. We haven't even reached the real mountain in this Vuelta, so we'll have to be on the lookout for him.
Chaves: Not many people are talking about him, but wait for it. He's a fine climber when it comes about short, steep mountains like those in the Vuelta. And he's Colombian (that's also a plus) 
Rubén Fernández: Nobody would have put his name before watching yesterday's stage. Seems to be on top condition, but then again, we'll have to wait for the toughest mountain in this year's Vuelta, which is yet to come.
Joaquim Rodriguez: He's retired.  |
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| DiCyc |
Posted on 23-08-2016 13:59
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For me it looks like Froome is serious and want to win. But looking at his team it doesn't look as strong as this year's Tour, and Movistar's team looks stronger. But too many cooks might spoil the broth, so...
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| Shonak |
Posted on 23-08-2016 14:20
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Lopez has three broken teeth, but will continue. Truly superman. 
https://www.cyclin...-in-crash/
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Strydz |
Posted on 23-08-2016 14:31
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Froome will be fine. But you are correct about Froome and TdF. I just finished he's book.. This man is obsessed about Tdf (always has been) as Lance was.
You actually believe anything written in that book? The vast majority of books ghost written for athletes is the same basic rubbish just using slightly different words.
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
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| Strydz |
Posted on 23-08-2016 14:33
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
Wheelsucker riders like Quintana and Valverde is not a threat.
Exciting about Chaves and/or Fernández can win much time on Froome before the long flat time trial on 19 stage.
Calling Valverde wheel sucker is already personal insult against me.
How damn stupid and blind fanboy can you be?
Please Daily create already ignore function, I can not take this shit anymore. It is impossible to ignore that mount of shit flow.
Just stop engaging with him, you already know what's going to be written yet posters still engage with him and take the bait.
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 23-08-2016 14:59
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Huge 20 rider breakaway: time to get home in front of TV
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 23-08-2016 15:15
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Strydz wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Froome will be fine. But you are correct about Froome and TdF. I just finished he's book.. This man is obsessed about Tdf (always has been) as Lance was.
You actually believe anything written in that book? The vast majority of books ghost written for athletes is the same basic rubbish just using slightly different words.
Whilst I agree that many sporting auto-biographies are ghost written you can't say all of the info is rubbish because of that. It's not as if the ghost writer has a template which fits all athletes and he simply fills in the blanks. The ghost writer simply takes the information provided by the athlete and writes it in a way that is easy to read and flows in a logical order. The ghost writer doesn't just make up stuff off the top of their head, they edit the information provided by the athlete. |
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Posted on 23-08-2016 15:27
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ringo182 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Froome will be fine. But you are correct about Froome and TdF. I just finished he's book.. This man is obsessed about Tdf (always has been) as Lance was.
You actually believe anything written in that book? The vast majority of books ghost written for athletes is the same basic rubbish just using slightly different words.
Whilst I agree that many sporting auto-biographies are ghost written you can't say all of the info is rubbish because of that. It's not as if the ghost writer has a template which fits all athletes and he simply fills in the blanks. The ghost writer simply takes the information provided by the athlete and writes it in a way that is easy to read and flows in a logical order. The ghost writer doesn't just make up stuff off the top of their head, they edit the information provided by the athlete.
I've only read Zlatans...and it was really amazing and at least felt non-scripted
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| Dusen |
Posted on 23-08-2016 15:48
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Another day where none of the GC favourites wants to win a stage. All a bunch of chickens. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 23-08-2016 15:55
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ringo182 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Froome will be fine. But you are correct about Froome and TdF. I just finished he's book.. This man is obsessed about Tdf (always has been) as Lance was.
You actually believe anything written in that book? The vast majority of books ghost written for athletes is the same basic rubbish just using slightly different words.
Whilst I agree that many sporting auto-biographies are ghost written you can't say all of the info is rubbish because of that. It's not as if the ghost writer has a template which fits all athletes and he simply fills in the blanks. The ghost writer simply takes the information provided by the athlete and writes it in a way that is easy to read and flows in a logical order. The ghost writer doesn't just make up stuff off the top of their head, they edit the information provided by the athlete.
Yeaah David Walsh just made up few storys from Kenya. I have read ton's of sport books. Some are excellent..some quite bad.
To say that Froome book all is lie..is just foolish. |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 23-08-2016 16:04
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Grmay, Haga or Kudus for the win hopefully 
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| Malkael |
Posted on 23-08-2016 16:43
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Another day, another French victory. Lilian Calmejane strikes for Direct Energie to break their long drought between Grand Tour victories. Atapuma absolutely sprinting for that line to get as much time as he can in the red jersey.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 23-08-2016 16:47
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What a day of racing. Fortunately, just tuned in for the finale which was pretty darn dreadful |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 23-08-2016 17:05
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Guido Mukk wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Froome will be fine. But you are correct about Froome and TdF. I just finished he's book.. This man is obsessed about Tdf (always has been) as Lance was.
You actually believe anything written in that book? The vast majority of books ghost written for athletes is the same basic rubbish just using slightly different words.
Whilst I agree that many sporting auto-biographies are ghost written you can't say all of the info is rubbish because of that. It's not as if the ghost writer has a template which fits all athletes and he simply fills in the blanks. The ghost writer simply takes the information provided by the athlete and writes it in a way that is easy to read and flows in a logical order. The ghost writer doesn't just make up stuff off the top of their head, they edit the information provided by the athlete.
Yeaah David Walsh just made up few storys from Kenya. I have read ton's of sport books. Some are excellent..some quite bad.
To say that Froome book all is lie..is just foolish.
99% of books about cycling and especially biographies are absolute lie, as they ignore doping, the most important thing in history of cycling. 
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 23-08-2016 17:10
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Not very exciting racing today.
On the other hand that meant Talansky could stay in the group.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| DiCyc |
Posted on 23-08-2016 17:36
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Great win by the French neo-pro!
But I am disappointed for his team mate...
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 23-08-2016 19:43
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Vuelta is gonna be worse than the Tour. I feel it. |
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