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"Fantasy" TdF 2016 | 77/198 | HUGE update!
dominox
DiCyc wrote:
What? Ten Dam better than Porte? :lol:


Tour de France 2014, Ten Dam 9th, Porte 23rd :lol:

PeterRyder wrote:
12th in general standings. 1st in Fantasy GC :lol:


So wait until tomorrow or Tuesday. You will see 24 minutes difference between 1st and 2nd in a Fantasy GC :lol:

I'm sorry, but I had to say this.
 
dominox
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cofidis.png Daniel Navarro - Cofidis, Solutions Credits

Amazing win on stage 20.
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GC: 27th +28'46"

1 stage1919
2 stage96
3 stage15610
4 stage611
5 stage2523
6 stage1123
7 stage3529
8 stage4540
9 stage2739
10 stage1439
11 stage1537
12 stage2333
13 stage15534
14 stage1434
15 stage1635
16 stage935
17 stage2132
18 stage7633
19 stage2732
20 stage127
21 stage2627


Okay, I think I need to ride Tours with GC riders as fast as with Majka... I don't exactly know how it happened.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tinkoff.png Rafał Majka - Tinkoff

i63.tinypic.com/4qsxzn.jpg

GC: 4th +3'30"

Question for 10 points, where is Froome on this photo? Question for 25 points, what was his place? Question for 50 points, what was his gap?
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Tinkoff is strong, Tinkoff is live.
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+2 in daily condition can do magic things.
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1 stage1818
2 stage56
3 stage126
4 stage66
5 stage11
6 stage171
7 stage233
8 stage42
9 stage176
10 stage426
11 stage136
12 stage66
13 stage507
14 stage127
15 stage87
16 stage137
17 stage45
18 stage335
19 stage45
20 stage14
21 stage754


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lotto.png Jelle Vanendert - Lotto Soudal

So yet another fast Tour de France. Vanendert 3rd in Fantasy GC? Lets see for how long.

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GC: 18th +25'30"

1 stage4646
2 stage33
3 stage123
4 stage23
5 stage119
6 stage529
7 stage2612
8 stage2519
9 stage3422
10 stage1722
11 stage720
12 stage2221
13 stage7620
14 stage2518
15 stage618
16 stage10218
17 stage3618
18 stage8919
19 stage2919
20 stage2618
21 stage1018


All time GC (1st place - 15pts, 2nd - 14pts, 3rd - 13pts, ..., 15th - 1 point):
This time with top 15, because more riders will score points Grin. After 30 races you can see first results!

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dominox
There is one thing I want to discuss, but I don't know if I get any answers. I will try...

Today was released a patch which include updated stats for riders after Tour de France. So I want to ask you some questions.

1. Which DB should I choose to play with riders not caring about GC? I mean outside top 15, 20. Which DB is more accurate according to your thoughts?
2. When I will play any of riders below should I play with DB according to my discretion? Or with DB in which that rider have better stats overall?

Green colour means that stat is increased, red decreased. Some riders are not included because I played with some. That's why you will not find here Porte, Ten Dam, Barguil etc.
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It would be nice to have any answers. I've already finished one TdF before starting new race. But that rider will definitely not care about GC so I will play one with new DB just to see how GC will change.
 
emre99
I have experienced pretty interesting stories in the tdf game. Well the choices are obvious, one for realistic 2016 tdf, one for pre tdf, you choose.

Btw can I learn alaphilippe whole stats Grin

79 mo
82 hil
80 acc
76 spr
76 prl
74 tt

My predictions
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PeterRyder
This games seriously needs a stat editor...
I'd also like to know how Froome got downgraded after winning the TdF :lol:

Play the old database for everyone.
 
dominox
emre99 wrote:
Btw can I learn alaphilippe whole stats Grin

79 mo
82 hil
80 acc
76 spr
76 prl
74 tt

My predictions


Am, well, only TT is 76, rest is correct Pfft.

PeterRyder wrote:
This games seriously needs a stat editor...
I'd also like to know how Froome got downgraded after winning the TdF :lol:

Play the old database for everyone.


Well, Froome won that race, but on mountain stages wasn't that much better than anyone else. They downgrade Contador from 83 (was only one with 83), also downgrade Quintana from 84 to 82. No one get 83 so if they would let Froome left with 84, game would be even more sick. So probably that's why they left Froome with 83.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/iam.png Stefan Denifl - IAM Cycling

i63.tinypic.com/2w24hkz.jpg

GC: 45th +1h17'27"

1 stage66
2 stage44
3 stage74
4 stage264
5 stage3930
6 stage8938
7 stage6244
8 stage3839
9 stage4241
10 stage1541
11 stage6841
12 stage3241
13 stage17841
14 stage741
15 stage3339
16 stage18342
17 stage6144
18 stage11045
19 stage5146
20 stage3945
21 stage5445


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/directenergie.png Sylvain Chavanel - Direct Energie

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GC: 36th +51'20"

I've played on new DB only 1 TdF just to see difference in the race... These are my thoughts...

Alaphilippe higher than Contador & Quintana on GC?
Bardet winning Tour?
Meintjes third?
While simulating? (You know, I was playing Chavanel, GC was not bothering me.)
What's wrong with this game?

I'm officially announcing that I will play 97% of TdFs on original DB, before TdF. Seriously, I want Froome to winning all of them than seeing that weird stuff (But, new riders inside top 15 :/). Only with some specific riders I will play with that new DB. Pauwels for example, or Yates, or Chaves, maybe Meintjes. But these are only exceptions, or those with more accurate stats in my opinion. Or to just see how I will ride with new DB with just a better rider. Don't worry, I will play Tour with Alaphilippe with 71 MO, not 79 Wink.

1 stage5858
2 stage56
3 stage126
4 stage56
5 stage4947
6 stage1347
7 stage4047
8 stage3943
9 stage5141
10 stage2640
11 stage140
12 stage4141
13 stage639
14 stage238
15 stage3436
16 stage636
17 stage4335
18 stage5735
19 stage4336
20 stage3336
21 stage7836
 
dominox
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lotto.png Gregory Henderson - Lotto Soudal

i67.tinypic.com/2rr1axl.jpg

GC: 136th +3h17'59"

Mostly (almost full tbh) simulated. Because when you are leaving behind on first stage... you know it won't be fun Tour to play...

1 stage191191
2 stage154189
3 stage178180
4 stage53178
5 stage183178
6 stage193187
7 stage163188
8 stage120185
9 stage111180
10 stage166181
11 stage12181
12 stage116178
13 stage198181
14 stage25181
15 stage64173
16 stage8170
17 stage86163
18 stage166163
19 stage108159
20 stage62138
21 stage1136


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bora.png Emanuel Buchmann - Bora-Argon 18

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GC: 55th +1h39'11"

I could play with this guy on new DB, but... nevermind.

1 stage3232
2 stage2424
3 stage195179
4 stage120174
5 stage98135
6 stage190146
7 stage192156
8 stage46135
9 stage54120
10 stage32120
11 stage49119
12 stage5599
13 stage198101
14 stage26103
15 stage4082
16 stage9681
17 stage4069
18 stage8569
19 stage3754
20 stage4249
21 stage19055


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/orica.png Michael Albasini - Orica GreenEDGE

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GC: 40th +1h10'41"

1 stage1717
2 stage318
3 stage318
4 stage218
5 stage4754
6 stage153
7 stage3444
8 stage3940
9 stage5944
10 stage643
11 stage743
12 stage3941
13 stage3741
14 stage1841
15 stage3737
16 stage1836
17 stage4536
18 stage13836
19 stage3838
20 stage9140
21 stage1040


On next "episode" new Fantasy leader!
 
DiCyc
Let me guess, a GC leader? Pfft
 
Arberg27
I would like to see you try to beat Froome, with the new update DB and on the new severity legendardisk Grin

I try with Porte now! Bardet is too bad on TT and all others are worse than Porte.
Edited by Arberg27 on 12-08-2016 10:46
 
dominox
DiCyc wrote:
Let me guess, a GC leader? Pfft


Yes, I can say he twice finished Grand Tour on the podium in "real life" Pfft.

Arberg27 wrote:
I would like to see you try to beat Froome, with the new update DB and on the new severity legendardisk Grin

I try with Porte now! Bardet is too bad on TT and all others are worse than Porte.


If you want me to kill myself because of this game, I can do this then. AI is "not normal", legendary difficulty might be more sick (I'm not great player, but I love it) than the game already is.

Also it would be harder to beat Froome on previous DB. Now Bardet seems to be unbeatable on new DB. Don't look at TT in this game. On first one you will not lose more than 30 seconds if you not have -2 in daily form. Second TT is more MO than TT, so Bardet can get quite good time there. Also STA is really important. Bardet has 82MO/80STA, Froome 83MO/75STA. Believe me, 5 points difference in stamina are making Bardet better than Froome with only 1 point more on MO.
 
Arberg27
No. Now I have played with both Froome and Bardet on legendary. Froome is better and Team Sky are unbeatable. Endurance means nothing. Won big with Froome and lost big with Bardet on second place. Won first time trial with Bardet

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But otherwise I did not have a chance, I was alone vs 6 Sky riders. Attacked I, drove Sky awesome team me in and died completely when Froome attacks. Wheelsucker I, as Movistar, lost I also, as Movistar.
Edited by Arberg27 on 14-08-2016 10:28
 
dominox
There is a reason why fast Tour de France can make some unpredictable results. Just look at the General Classification of Fantasy Tour de France :lol:.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cannondale.png Rigoberto Uran - Cannondale Pro Cycling Team

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GC: 3rd +3'04"

Played on new DB.

1 stage88
2 stage33
3 stage83
4 stage63
5 stage11
6 stage111
7 stage11
8 stage21
9 stage141
10 stage71
11 stage181
12 stage243
13 stage113
14 stage203
15 stage103
16 stage93
17 stage103
18 stage273
19 stage133
20 stage63
21 stage73


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tinkoff.png Peter Sagan - Tinkoff

i66.tinypic.com/s59qn7.jpg

GC: 32nd +48'16"

1 stage22
2 stage44
3 stage14
4 stage22
5 stage3326
6 stage426
7 stage3025
8 stage3933
9 stage4334
10 stage134
11 stage134
12 stage3533
13 stage1933
14 stage933
15 stage1833
16 stage233
17 stage4131
18 stage8931
19 stage3432
20 stage6832
21 stage132


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bmc.png Alessandro De Marchi - BMC Racing Team

i67.tinypic.com/16a5yjl.jpg

GC: 15th +19'37"

1 stage2323
2 stage55
3 stage95
4 stage55
5 stage1915
6 stage1515
7 stage3421
8 stage212
9 stage2614
10 stage1414
11 stage1213
12 stage1514
13 stage5214
14 stage914
15 stage1816
16 stage1615
17 stage1815
18 stage3816
19 stage1915
20 stage1615
21 stage1115
 
PeterRyder
You floped with Sagan...
 
dominox
Big update, because I'm going on holiday for 2 weeks, so I won't put any results in this time, sorry.

PeterRyder wrote:
You floped with Sagan...


Why? Because I didn't won 10 flat stages? I think 32nd place in GC is pretty nice result.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bmc.png Greg Van Avermaet - BMC Racing Team

GC: 39th +1h13'18"

i68.tinypic.com/14dgcon.jpg

1 stage1010
2 stage11
3 stage11
4 stage41
5 stage3926
6 stage123
7 stage4428
8 stage3836
9 stage6339
10 stage939
11 stage1639
12 stage4237
13 stage5537
14 stage437
15 stage4036
16 stage5336
17 stage5236
18 stage13036
19 stage4937
20 stage5839
21 stage739


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tinkoff.png Roman Kreuziger - Tinkoff

GC: 5th +9'07"

i67.tinypic.com/wwnqya.jpg

1 stage77
2 stage33
3 stage133
4 stage54
5 stage65
6 stage445
7 stage34
8 stage11
9 stage145
10 stage245
11 stage175
12 stage134
13 stage194
14 stage114
15 stage64
16 stage84
17 stage235
18 stage205
19 stage105
20 stage65
21 stage165


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/trek.png Stijn Devolder - Trek - Segafredo

GC: 59th +1h54'04"

i67.tinypic.com/2z4daas.jpg

1 stage1616
2 stage148
3 stage104
4 stage11510
5 stage10471
6 stage2261
7 stage7662
8 stage5356
9 stage8261
10 stage2561
11 stage9660
12 stage5357
13 stage12658
14 stage7357
15 stage5758
16 stage8157
17 stage5956
18 stage13258
19 stage6357
20 stage6460
21 stage859


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cofidis.png Rudy Molard - Cofidis, Solutions Credits

GC: 48th +1h35'45"

Pretty good Tour for Cofidis. Bouhanni easily won green jersey with some stage wins. Jeannesson ended on 8th place which is absolutely incredible
result for me. Especially when I was playing with Molard. Before 20th stage, Jeannesson was 20th in GC, but +2 in daily form and early breakaway
made a miracle. 11 minutes ahead of GC Conteders (Pinot lost his yellow jersey there) and 8th place in GC. Amazing Grin.

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1 stage148148
2 stage55
3 stage75
4 stage255
5 stage6140
6 stage5340
7 stage8755
8 stage4344
9 stage6247
10 stage8447
11 stage747
12 stage3645
13 stage14346
14 stage16450
15 stage3946
16 stage18254
17 stage4447
18 stage13249
19 stage4648
20 stage5048
21 stage9348


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bora.png Jan Barta - Bora-Argon 18

GC: 47th +1h32'15"

i66.tinypic.com/2hfrh1t.jpg

1 stage3838
2 stage1520
3 stage817
4 stage315
5 stage12889
6 stage2589
7 stage10694
8 stage5771
9 stage4965
10 stage3965
11 stage8565
12 stage4354
13 stage5955
14 stage951
15 stage5044
16 stage5044
17 stage4946
18 stage12546
19 stage4347
20 stage5947
21 stage4547
 
dominox
Long time no see. But I'm back after my holiday. Last time 5 riders, this time 5 riders. Nothing really special, so let's move on.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/trek.png Haimar Zubeldia - Trek - Segafredo

GC: 26th +37'27"

i67.tinypic.com/2n8didd.jpg

1 stage4848
2 stage1012
3 stage5812
4 stage5214
5 stage4237
6 stage4434
7 stage7338
8 stage3034
9 stage3933
10 stage5033
11 stage5733
12 stage1532
13 stage16532
14 stage6532
15 stage2332
16 stage3132
17 stage3629
18 stage4630
19 stage1029
20 stage3327
21 stage1926


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/fortuneo.png Jonathan Hivert - Fortuneo - Vital Concept

GC: 35th +46'16"

Pretty good results on flat stages.

i65.tinypic.com/i6wj2f.jpg

1 stage33
2 stage33
3 stage12
4 stage32
5 stage3530
6 stage327
7 stage1927
8 stage3128
9 stage4234
10 stage233
11 stage231
12 stage4433
13 stage8733
14 stage333
15 stage4534
16 stage134
17 stage5036
18 stage10336
19 stage2135
20 stage3235
21 stage1135


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ag2r.png Johan Vansummeren - AG2R La Mondiale

GC: 55th +1h54'24"

i65.tinypic.com/24vo9ia.jpg

1 stage6363
2 stage5056
3 stage6952
4 stage5853
5 stage137114
6 stage123107
7 stage104107
8 stage6689
9 stage7786
10 stage4687
11 stage5484
12 stage6770
13 stage11072
14 stage1271
15 stage4366
16 stage7660
17 stage4655
18 stage13157
19 stage4752
20 stage7756
21 stage3655


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/dimension.png Mark Renshaw - Dimension Data

GC: 102nd +2h50'19"

i64.tinypic.com/ixeckx.jpg

1 stage22
2 stage12078
3 stage1774
4 stage1474
5 stage163148
6 stage12135
7 stage176143
8 stage105130
9 stage126120
10 stage8120
11 stage2120
12 stage73111
13 stage198113
14 stage159117
15 stage114115
16 stage75113
17 stage78110
18 stage167113
19 stage65103
20 stage120103
21 stage6102


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/fortuneo.png Steven Tronet - Fortuneo - Vital Concept

GC: 114th +2h50'42"

i63.tinypic.com/2mr5ybm.jpg

1 stage11
2 stage6050
3 stage950
4 stage7451
5 stage135113
6 stage3104
7 stage139116
8 stage98112
9 stage67105
10 stage9105
11 stage31105
12 stage10098
13 stage198100
14 stage21100
15 stage94101
16 stage192119
17 stage56114
18 stage179117
19 stage63107
20 stage147115
21 stage12114
 
dominox
I'm alive, and I'm still playing. But as those riders aren't "GC Contenders" there are a lot in one update Grin.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/iam.png Martin Elmiger - IAM Cycling

i68.tinypic.com/qogj88.jpg

GC: 47th +1h27'11"

1 stage4848
2 stage1316
3 stage78
4 stage55
5 stage7143
6 stage543
7 stage7547
8 stage4947
9 stage4041
10 stage2441
11 stage141
12 stage5645
13 stage16645
14 stage642
15 stage6944
16 stage1443
17 stage5944
18 stage13144
19 stage4344
20 stage6948
21 stage1247


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/katusha.png Michael Morkov - Team Katusha

i68.tinypic.com/25sq4k2.jpg

GC: 88th +2h40'18"

1 stage44
2 stage10088
3 stage1386
4 stage486
5 stage158144
6 stage15139
7 stage128136
8 stage4989
9 stage10891
10 stage3991
11 stage6287
12 stage6882
13 stage19882
14 stage6578
15 stage11289
16 stage3389
17 stage6384
18 stage15586
19 stage5382
20 stage11688
21 stage1388


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/etixx.png Marcel Kittel - Etixx - Quick Step

i67.tinypic.com/1zzjjeo.jpg

GC: 84th +2h41'33"

1 stage11
2 stage10996
3 stage181
4 stage168
5 stage134117
6 stage1106
7 stage162120
8 stage5680
9 stage9383
10 stage2683
11 stage182
12 stage7281
13 stage19885
14 stage177
15 stage11385
16 stage285
17 stage6481
18 stage15983
19 stage6476
20 stage10484
21 stage6084


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/trek.png Giacomo Nizzolo - Trek - Segafredo

i64.tinypic.com/6jn57o.jpg

GC: 96th +2h46'44"

1 stage88
2 stage4231
3 stage1837
4 stage231
5 stage121102
6 stage886
7 stage13099
8 stage9095
9 stage135106
10 stage9106
11 stage2100
12 stage8898
13 stage197100
14 stage196
15 stage111101
16 stage81101
17 stage8898
18 stage150100
19 stage6897
20 stage8096
21 stage496


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cofidis.png Geoffrey Soupe - Cofidis, Solutions Credits

i66.tinypic.com/14awgw8.jpg

GC: 86th +2h31'06"

Jeannesson gained 11'25" on stage 1. Yep, the same bug. But still he could finish this on 12th place.

1 stage1919
2 stage6363
3 stage257
4 stage135
5 stage135134
6 stage3110
7 stage121113
8 stage9295
9 stage6291
10 stage491
11 stage1987
12 stage6580
13 stage19380
14 stage782
15 stage5278
16 stage177
17 stage6174
18 stage15274
19 stage7073
20 stage12786
21 stage186


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/movistar.png Adriano Malori - Movistar Team

i64.tinypic.com/34eydxu.jpg

GC: 120th +3h31'05"

1 stage6161
2 stage194194
3 stage37188
4 stage111186
5 stage190190
6 stage91182
7 stage146180
8 stage105161
9 stage77147
10 stage180147
11 stage185152
12 stage112149
13 stage198154
14 stage58149
15 stage104142
16 stage158142
17 stage79131
18 stage133128
19 stage50120
20 stage119121
21 stage66120
 
sammyt93
What happened with Kittel on the final stage?
 
dominox
sammyt93 wrote:
What happened with Kittel on the final stage?


I f****d up and almost crashed on last left turn before the tunnel, so 100% my fault Pfft.
 
Forever the Best
Awesome work.Keep it up!
 
dominox
Another 3 riders with new Fantasy Leader! (Spoiler Alert, not for long...)

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/giant.png Nikias Arndt - Team Giant - Alpecin

GC: 131st +3h32'14"

i63.tinypic.com/2gvt3xu.jpg

1 stage33
2 stage167160
3 stage185182
4 stage77181
5 stage176180
6 stage49179
7 stage150178
8 stage123172
9 stage101163
10 stage151161
11 stage175164
12 stage101158
13 stage198162
14 stage128163
15 stage123155
16 stage6154
17 stage82136
18 stage159137
19 stage51130
20 stage130131
21 stage34131


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bora.png Patrick Konrad - Bora-Argon 18

GC: 15th +19'55"

i68.tinypic.com/j8e7p5.jpg

1 stage8282
2 stage33
3 stage2311
4 stage18
5 stage1614
6 stage6232
7 stage3628
8 stage2020
9 stage2721
10 stage3921
11 stage3821
12 stage1319
13 stage9719
14 stage6519
15 stage617
16 stage417
17 stage815
18 stage5515
19 stage1015
20 stage1615
21 stage5815


pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/giant.png Tom Veelers - Team Giant - Alpecin

GC: 162nd +4h03'49"

i67.tinypic.com/11ru1zo.jpg

1 stage33
2 stage143129
3 stage123120
4 stage38117
5 stage182175
6 stage29167
7 stage184168
8 stage99153
9 stage181160
10 stage198193
11 stage5193
12 stage90189
13 stage198190
14 stage2190
15 stage143189
16 stage10189
17 stage81177
18 stage183177
19 stage73168
20 stage126162
21 stage149162
 
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