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| Shonak |
Posted on 31-07-2016 18:39
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No more new cobblez in WT please, we have have easily enough already and imo they are overrpresented in comparison to quantity of riders. It is ok with the current amount, although I wish for one less race even. For me wt calendar looks ok. Virgina Chrono Tour wasn't a good race last year but it deserves another shot, maybe it'll work better. Other calendars looks also good. Looking forward to being of some reporting help again if you want.
Edited by Shonak on 31-07-2016 18:53
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 31-07-2016 18:58
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Had to sign five crap riders to fill the team and balance the budget, but I hope it won't bring us into trouble with race planning...
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| Bikex |
Posted on 31-07-2016 19:42
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Okay De Panne and San Luis which seems to be preferred over Oman will be added as CT.2 stage races.
For WT a mountainous route as one day race will be included. I like to have a race with a finish in the valley, as that will give more riders a chance. Tatranska Classic seems like a good addition, but imo is a little bit too hard, with a quick search I found this race by trekbmc: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1153934
I think this could make a great racing and could possibly have an unexpected winner and not necessarily a 82 MO guy. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 31-07-2016 19:48
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that race by trek looks very nice, I am pro race du lac du annecy. It's also a very nice place for holiday. 
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 31-07-2016 20:02
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make that cobbled mountain race of trek happen  joking out: I´m not sure if that´s a good idea...it will be a very big group finishing together as PCM treats those "climbing" races horrible...
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| jserna735 |
Posted on 31-07-2016 21:07
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I saw in the calendar for previous years there was a Vuelta a Colombia. I guess I'm a bit impartial based on my team, but I always felt that this is a good race for straight climbers, as even the TTs are some what mountainous. Not sure if you had thought about it or not. Don't really care which classification you put it in, if you decide to.
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| jserna735 |
Posted on 31-07-2016 21:09
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jserna735 wrote:
I saw in the calendar for previous years there was a Vuelta a Colombia. I guess I'm a bit impartial based on my team, but I always felt that this is a good race for straight climbers, as even the TTs are some what mountainous. Not sure if you had thought about it or not. Don't really care which classification you put it in, if you decide to.
ignore me, did not see the bottom of the CT.2 calendar, lol
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| Shonak |
Posted on 31-07-2016 23:20
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Any chance for previews by some users?
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 01-08-2016 05:24
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I'll be glad to help out with a few race previews...
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| Shonak |
Posted on 01-08-2016 07:21
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I was actually thinking of team previews, like knockout did them for the first year. I just scooped through the DB and I am surprised how strong some new teams are. Job well done. Meanwhile Illes Balears has significantly lost in strength due to the gamble I took by cutting out Purito and Stybar and missing out on Nairito. Well, I just hope this is (another) transition year and we manage to stay in WT.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 01-08-2016 07:27
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Was thinking of doing a WT and CT division preview (a little bit inspired by seeing so many previews for the MG). Hadn't planned to do it team-wise, but more a comparative ranking based preview.
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 01-08-2016 12:41
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A preview would be a great idea, especially for me as new player, and probably also the other new ones, this would be a good overview.
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| knockout |
Posted on 01-08-2016 14:21
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Bikex wrote:
Okay De Panne and San Luis which seems to be preferred over Oman will be added as CT.2 stage races.
For WT a mountainous route as one day race will be included. I like to have a race with a finish in the valley, as that will give more riders a chance. Tatranska Classic seems like a good addition, but imo is a little bit too hard, with a quick search I found this race by trekbmc: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1153934
I think this could make a great racing and could possibly have an unexpected winner and not necessarily a 82 MO guy.
Noooooo. Why not something cobbled instead 
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| Bikex |
Posted on 01-08-2016 16:20
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The calendar is now complete: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1196266
You can check race clashes easier with this file: https://www.mediafire.com/download/545...endar.xlsx
If you find a clash or something you don't like please tell that now before planning begins then there is a chance this could still be changed. In the last season's there were often unfitting race clashes found when it was to late to do something about that. So if you find something now, there is a chance the race dates could still be changed.
Routes will be posted as soon as possible, but most of them aren't done yet. I'd appreciate if there would be some to help me out with that. Most races will keep their 2016 routes, but if there are lots of variants or fitting stages it would be nice to also have some variety.
Edited by Bikex on 01-08-2016 16:29
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 01-08-2016 17:30
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My first impressions - the calendar looks good! I'm glad that the WT triple-header still exists, a great way to even out a few of the World Tour teams competing in each race. I like that the long CT.2 tours are clashing with a few bigger events to dilute the talent a bit, but this might cause a lot of people to avoid South Africa and Portugal to race in the more isolated Vuelta a Colombia instead.
I'm not sure of the eligibility rules and can't actually open the ICL-Archive file right now, but ideally it would be nice to have riders able to defend the titles they won last season. (For example, I'm hoping that Bert-Jan Lindeman's average is low enough to compete in the Cigar City Classic again now that we have the World Tour limits applied, but that's just a minor issue really.)
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| Shonak |
Posted on 01-08-2016 17:47
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Looks well enough for me. Portugal and South Africa look good. I actually hope that Colomobia gets some more racing competition, it has been a pointfeast for some teams just because of the lack of competition..
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| Bikex |
Posted on 01-08-2016 18:07
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Last Round
The 24 hour deadline for the second part of round 2 is over, here is the updated DB: https://www.mediafire.com/download/dxk...-R3.2.xlsx
Some teams are not filled yet and now have the last chance to sign riders, these teams are not complete, yet:
| 12 | Allianz Cycling Team | WT | 380 | 1 | | 20 | CarbonSports Cycling - Lightweight | WT | 360 | 2 | | 41 | Leopard - Evonik Pro Cycling | WT | 460 | 2 | | 55 | The Spark Project p/b Bollé | WT | 1915 | 5 | | 58 | Team Peugeot | WT | 240 | 1 |
This will be done by First Come First Serve. Just post in this thread the riders you want to sign together with their ID. The wage paid to the rider equals his minimum wage. Of course also full teams may add a final rider, in the spoiler is the full budget list.
Spoiler | 1 | Vegeta Cycling Team | WT | 270 | 0 | | 6 | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | WT | 920 | 0 | | 7 | Illes Balears | WT | 1285 | 0 | | 8 | Feryn Bikes | WT | 955 | 0 | | 9 | Fast N' Loud Cycling Project | CT | 5 | 0 | | 11 | Sugoi - Xanterra | WT | 130 | 0 | | 12 | Allianz Cycling Team | WT | 380 | 1 | | 15 | Gaerne - CSF | CT | 135 | 0 | | 16 | Celesio Pro Cycling | WT | 0 | 0 | | 19 | Bunzl - Centrica | WT | 0 | 0 | | 20 | CarbonSports Cycling - Lightweight | WT | 360 | 2 | | 23 | Italo - Ventilair | WT | 10 | 0 | | 29 | Fiskars Cykling | CT | 0 | 0 | | 32 | Team Cymru Wales | CT | 390 | 0 | | 34 | SAP - Bianchi | WT | 645 | 0 | | 40 | Pedal Africa | CT | 50 | 0 | | 41 | Leopard - Evonik Pro Cycling | WT | 460 | 2 | | 42 | Team Alitalia | WT | 0 | 0 | | 43 | TVM Cycling Team | WT | 25 | 0 | | 44 | Suntory Lucozade Sport | WT | 5 | 0 | | 45 | Saeco - Cannondale | WT | 35 | 0 | | 46 | ICBC Cycling Team | CT | 1320 | 0 | | 50 | CCC Sprandi Polkowice | CT | 745 | 0 | | 51 | Team Renova | CT | 225 | 0 | | 52 | Santos - Euskadi | CT | 5 | 0 | | 53 | Sevilla Cycling Team | CT | 0 | 0 | | 55 | The Spark Project p/b Bollé | WT | 1915 | 5 | | 56 | Specialized World Cycling | CT | 0 | 0 | | 58 | Team Peugeot | WT | 240 | 1 | | 60 | Team W - Junior | CT | 1170 | 0 | | 61 | VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff | CT | 0 | 0 | | 62 | Schuh p/b Wiggle | CT | 380 | 0 | | 63 | Lufthansa IN Racing | CT | 0 | 0 | | 64 | A1 Cycling Team | CT | 65 | 0 | | 65 | Aeropostal Venezuela Ciclismo | CT | 0 | 0 | | 66 | Team Heineken - Shell | CT | 1045 | 0 | | 67 | Team Coldeportes | CT | 370 | 0 | | 68 | Credit Suisse Pro Cycling | CT | 110 | 0 | | 69 | Enel Pro Cycling | CT | 800 | 0 |
bwiggins just missed round 3 and let me know that he'd like to add the following riders to his team:
| 40 | Schorn | Daniel | | 380 | Dehaes | Kenny | | 1039 | Feillu | Romain | | 3545 | Monsalve | Jonathan | | 1857 | Roy | Jérémy |
Again this round will have a 24 hours deadline, after that if your team is not complete, I'll select riders to be added. |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 01-08-2016 18:20
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Allianz
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| dominox |
Posted on 01-08-2016 19:19
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Well, if other teams also might add final rider to their team...
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 01-08-2016 19:33
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Peugeot
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