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PeterRyder |
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22 minute difference from Barguil's 2nd to Porte's 3rd... lol
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AbhishekLFC, It's really hard to admit, but yeah, every single time... Even last year he wasn't dominating so much. Nibali, Valverde, Contador, even Pinot could had won Tour. After 85 Tours, Froome won it 35 times, Nibali 31, Contador 10, Pinot 5 and Valverde 4 times. It looks like this time, Froome will win every single Tour... Unless I could make it with other rider. One thing I know, If I will play with Sky rider and it won't be Froomebot.exe, he will have "disabled" team comm. He will ride all along for himself.
PeterRyder, yeah, but look at the winner time on those TdFs . Right there is 20min difference.
Tom Dumoulin - Team Giant - Alpecin
GC: 16th +17'30"
Bad luck I finished outside of top 15. But at least 2nd place on first ITT. Not really good rider on mountain stages. Especially in 3rd week.
1 stage | 9 | | 9 | 2 stage | 4 | | 6 | 3 stage | 8 | | 8 | 4 stage | 7 | | 9 | 5 stage | 11 | | 11 | 6 stage | 5 | | 11 | 7 stage | 23 | | 18 | 8 stage | 15 | | 15 | 9 stage | 15 | | 15 | 10 stage | 16 | | 14 | 11 stage | 13 | | 14 | 12 stage | 26 | | 15 | 13 stage | 2 | | 15 | 14 stage | 2 | | 14 | 15 stage | 12 | | 14 | 16 stage | 41 | | 14 | 17 stage | 31 | | 15 | 18 stage | 20 | | 14 | 19 stage | 27 | | 15 | 20 stage | 15 | | 16 | 21 stage | 10 | | 16 |
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Posted on 11-07-2016 19:05
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3 riders today!
Paul Martens - Team LottoNL - Jumbo
GC: 43rd +1h13'22"
1 stage | 12 | | 12 | 2 stage | 3 | | 3 | 3 stage | 4 | | 3 | 4 stage | 2 | | 2 | 5 stage | 31 | | 31 | 6 stage | 15 | | 38 | 7 stage | 45 | | 40 | 8 stage | 43 | | 44 | 9 stage | 54 | | 46 | 10 stage | 10 | | 46 | 11 stage | 8 | | 46 | 12 stage | 41 | | 46 | 13 stage | 143 | | 46 | 14 stage | 11 | | 44 | 15 stage | 37 | | 42 | 16 stage | 7 | | 42 | 17 stage | 38 | | 41 | 18 stage | 134 | | 42 | 19 stage | 51 | | 43 | 20 stage | 76 | | 43 | 21 stage | 15 | | 43 |
Taylor Phinney - BMC Racing Team
GC: 91st +2h19'48"
1 stage | 7 | | 7 | 2 stage | 45 | | 22 | 3 stage | 2 | | 10 | 4 stage | 15 | | 10 | 5 stage | 119 | | 101 | 6 stage | 2 | | 76 | 7 stage | 134 | | 88 | 8 stage | 83 | | 87 | 9 stage | 113 | | 95 | 10 stage | 6 | | 95 | 11 stage | 2 | | 94 | 12 stage | 67 | | 82 | 13 stage | 108 | | 82 | 14 stage | 12 | | 80 | 15 stage | 115 | | 87 | 16 stage | 2 | | 87 | 17 stage | 63 | | 83 | 18 stage | 146 | | 85 | 19 stage | 65 | | 81 | 20 stage | 118 | | 91 | 21 stage | 40 | | 91 |
Joaquim Rodriguez - Team Katusha
First of all, I didn't realise that after intermediate sprint on stage 1, sprinters created a little group of 16 riders... 10 minutes lost on finish to them. At least no GC conteders were there. As I saw, Katusha have 3 riders that can possible fight for a top GC places. The best is Zakarin, little worse Spilak and Rodriguez (with "only" 79 in MO; Spilak have 80, Zakarin 81). Absolutely amazing first week. Of course I couldn't get yellow jersey so fast thanks to that 10 minutes on stage 1, but you have to admit, 4 stage wins on first week is pretty good result.
4 stage wins. Am I going to beat those 5 with Barguil?
General Classification after 1 week:
General Classification after 2 week:
At least I finished 6th on overall standings and won points classification. "Only" 4 stage wins.
GC: 6th +5'03"
1 stage | 19 | | 19 | 2 stage | 1 | | 17 | 3 stage | 8 | | 17 | 4 stage | 1 | | 17 | 5 stage | 1 | | 3 | 6 stage | 7 | | 3 | 7 stage | 1 | | 2 | 8 stage | 4 | | 1 | 9 stage | 3 | | 1 | 10 stage | 13 | | 1 | 11 stage | 8 | | 1 | 12 stage | 9 | | 1 | 13 stage | 83 | | 1 | 14 stage | 14 | | 1 | 15 stage | 7 | | 2 | 16 stage | 3 | | 2 | 17 stage | 6 | | 2 | 18 stage | 69 | | 5 | 19 stage | 9 | | 4 | 20 stage | 12 | | 6 | 21 stage | 44 | | 6 |
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Posted on 12-07-2016 17:44
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You floped hard in the last week...
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dominox |
Posted on 16-07-2016 15:59
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PeterRyder; Maybe a little bit. But I don't think I could lose less on those 2 last mountain stages, also an ITT. You must remember that Rodriguez isn't Froome on TT . Also it was mountain one, so almost 2 minutes to Contador/Froome/Pinot/Nibali and others was a minimum. -1 in daily condition on stage 20 also made it (its something like -1 in all statistics, so it was basically 78 in MO, there is at least 15 riders with more than 80 MO).
Lawson Craddock - Cannondale Pro Cycling Team
68 stamina... And how you want to use properly your 77 in MO?
GC: 40th +1h04'51"
1 stage | 12 | | 12 | 2 stage | 55 | | 31 | 3 stage | 45 | | 33 | 4 stage | 84 | | 40 | 5 stage | 44 | | 43 | 6 stage | 12 | | 43 | 7 stage | 67 | | 57 | 8 stage | 64 | | 63 | 9 stage | 54 | | 56 | 10 stage | 25 | | 56 | 11 stage | 123 | | 56 | 12 stage | 32 | | 46 | 13 stage | 181 | | 46 | 14 stage | 177 | | 48 | 15 stage | 37 | | 47 | 16 stage | 166 | | 47 | 17 stage | 20 | | 41 | 18 stage | 74 | | 41 | 19 stage | 35 | | 40 | 20 stage | 33 | | 40 | 21 stage | 26 | | 40 |
Andre Greipel - Lotto Soudal
I wasn't caring about GC much, he's sprint specialist, not Tour winner. Other thing worth to admit is Tony Gallopin winning stage 7 and 15.
GC: 89th +2h12'48"
1 stage | 1 | | 1 | 2 stage | 35 | | 16 | 3 stage | 1 | | 14 | 4 stage | 2 | | 9 | 5 stage | 117 | | 97 | 6 stage | 1 | | 93 | 7 stage | 130 | | 104 | 8 stage | 93 | | 89 | 9 stage | 74 | | 90 | 10 stage | 9 | | 90 | 11 stage | 1 | | 89 | 12 stage | 95 | | 91 | 13 stage | 198 | | 92 | 14 stage | 1 | | 89 | 15 stage | 117 | | 98 | 16 stage | 9 | | 96 | 17 stage | 69 | | 93 | 18 stage | 172 | | 93 | 19 stage | 55 | | 89 | 20 stage | 71 | | 89 | 21 stage | 1 | | 89 |
Tom Boonen - Etixx - Quick Step
GC: 79th +2h09'16"
1 stage | 1 | | 1 | 2 stage | 56 | | 35 | 3 stage | 7 | | 34 | 4 stage | 3 | | 33 | 5 stage | 133 | | 110 | 6 stage | 11 | | 98 | 7 stage | 169 | | 127 | 8 stage | 50 | | 82 | 9 stage | 109 | | 91 | 10 stage | 9 | | 90 | 11 stage | 1 | | 89 | 12 stage | 87 | | 86 | 13 stage | 193 | | 87 | 14 stage | 6 | | 83 | 15 stage | 47 | | 80 | 16 stage | 9 | | 80 | 17 stage | 63 | | 77 | 18 stage | 164 | | 81 | 19 stage | 50 | | 76 | 20 stage | 94 | | 79 | 21 stage | 3 | | 79 |
Mikel Landa - Team Sky
I decided to attack on first downhill from Colombier, hold my advantage to the top of last climb and managed to hold 1 minute to all favourites. Pretty nice victory. Last year I ended Tour on 9th place with Landa.
GC: 7th +11'14"
1 stage | 17 | | 17 | 2 stage | 8 | | 5 | 3 stage | 17 | | 6 | 4 stage | 7 | | 10 | 5 stage | 27 | | 27 | 6 stage | 13 | | 27 | 7 stage | 29 | | 27 | 8 stage | 5 | | 21 | 9 stage | 14 | | 16 | 10 stage | 10 | | 16 | 11 stage | 28 | | 16 | 12 stage | 12 | | 15 | 13 stage | 145 | | 15 | 14 stage | 12 | | 15 | 15 stage | 1 | | 12 | 16 stage | 61 | | 12 | 17 stage | 3 | | 9 | 18 stage | 37 | | 10 | 19 stage | 10 | | 9 | 20 stage | 12 | | 7 | 21 stage | 26 | | 7 |
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Posted on 17-07-2016 14:44
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6 wins with Greipel
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Posted on 17-07-2016 20:04
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dominox wrote:
It's really hard to admit, but yeah, every single time... Even last year he wasn't dominating so much. Nibali, Valverde, Contador, even Pinot could had won Tour. After 85 Tours, Froome won it 35 times, Nibali 31, Contador 10, Pinot 5 and Valverde 4 times. It looks like this time, Froome will win every single Tour... Good to hear that it is more realistic now |
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dominox |
Posted on 21-07-2016 15:13
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PeterRyder; Well, Cavendish won 4 stages, Sagan 3 in real Tour, so...
Arberg27; But strangely game decided to break out of this standard.
Tom Van Asbroeck - Team LottoNL - Jumbo
Don't ask how Bertie won this Tour. I realised it after last stage.
GC: 74th +2h09'07" / 2nd in PC
1 stage | 4 | | 4 | 2 stage | 12 | | 7 | 3 stage | 13 | | 10 | 4 stage | 2 | | 7 | 5 stage | 101 | | 88 | 6 stage | 13 | | 88 | 7 stage | 97 | | 89 | 8 stage | 73 | | 72 | 9 stage | 56 | | 67 | 10 stage | 34 | | 66 | 11 stage | 1 | | 65 | 12 stage | 115 | | 77 | 13 stage | 194 | | 81 | 14 stage | 2 | | 79 | 15 stage | 88 | | 81 | 16 stage | 11 | | 81 | 17 stage | 57 | | 76 | 18 stage | 153 | | 78 | 19 stage | 51 | | 73 | 20 stage | 54 | | 76 | 21 stage | 10 | | 74 |
Michał Kwiatkowski - Team Sky
Yes, its still lvl professional.
Again the same situation (probably some sort of bug). First stage, sprinters are finishing on the intermediate sprint and the peloton isn't chasing them, the group gain 11 minutes, Kwiatkowski is in that group... He is a good puncheur, but also can climb, and sprint. So he was gaining time on flat stages thanks to winning them. Hilly ones? No problem of gaining another 30". GC after first week:
On Mont Ventoux I lose 4 minutes to Froome, 2-3 minutes to other favourites. Also an ITT, -2 in daily condition but still 27th place. Stage 14, really windy one. Riders made big effort (even Froome lost 1'28), I decided to attack about 10km from finish line. I gained about 35 seconds. Another victory? No problem on stage 16. GC after second week:
From this moment I was starting to believe that I can actually win that Tour. At the beginning I thought that 11 minutes after first week is nice results, but I will lose everything when real mountain would come... Second week ends and still 7 minutes in front. Only 3 mountain stages and one ITT. So how about 3rd week? Well, almost 5 minutes lost to winner on stage 17, on stage 18 1'30". Another 5 minutes on stage 19 so possible victory was gone. 4'30" on stage 20 (just to much energy spent on previous stages, last 20km I was riding completely empty). But at least I was a leader for 18 stages. I think I don't have to say that I won points classification?
GC: 6th +6'46"
1 stage | 1 | | 1 | 2 stage | 9 | | 1 | 3 stage | 1 | | 1 | 4 stage | 1 | | 1 | 5 stage | 1 | | 1 | 6 stage | 3 | | 1 | 7 stage | 1 | | 1 | 8 stage | 6 | | 1 | 9 stage | 32 | | 1 | 10 stage | 1 | | 1 | 11 stage | 6 | | 1 | 12 stage | 17 | | 1 | 13 stage | 27 | | 1 | 14 stage | 1 | | 1 | 15 stage | 14 | | 1 | 16 stage | 1 | | 1 | 17 stage | 24 | | 1 | 18 stage | 67 | | 1 | 19 stage | 20 | | 5 | 20 stage | 25 | | 6 | 21 stage | 4 | | 6 |
As a proof of that 8 stage wins:
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PeterRyder |
Posted on 25-07-2016 23:11
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I would say you should up the difficulty becuase 8 stages is WAY too much unrealistic... but it can influentiate the fantasy GC.
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Posted on 25-07-2016 23:17
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Lol ridiculous race with Kwiatek |
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Posted on 26-07-2016 12:26
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PeterRyder; I know how it looks, but it isn't as "easy" as it look . Winning flat stages isn't really big deal. You starting sprint about 1,6km to go and using that red gel at the same time. More than 70 in sprint and you can win easily some flat stages. Also Kwiatek has more than 75 in stats almost everywhere so I was just using his potential. Game will not do that cause Sky has Froome. Same with Sanchez below, 75 in sprint and you're winning flat stages like Cav in this Tour. Also you are saying that 8 stages is way to unrealistic? Wait until Sagan then . But I have to admit that now finishing is much easier than last year. Also I won't increase difficulty. As you said it can influent the fantasy GC and made me more frustrated on the game itself (already made me sick sometimes...).
Also if you want I will try to not sprint with every rider and winning flat stages like crazy (but you know, bonus seconds). Only with pure sprinters. Is that okay?
The Schleck Fan; Wouldn't be so ridiculous if not those 10 minutes on stage 1.
Samuel Sanchez - BMC Racing Team
GC: 5th +6'38"
You have an example below, with those results I gained about 1'20". If not, I would finish probably 7th with about 9 minutes to leader (time difference on those stages).
1 stage | 5 | | 5 | 2 stage | 1 | | 1 | 3 stage | 2 | | 1 | 4 stage | 1 | | 1 | 5 stage | 1 | | 1 | 6 stage | 1 | | 1 | 7 stage | 2 | | 1 | 8 stage | 3 | | 1 | 9 stage | 16 | | 1 | 10 stage | 6 | | 1 | 11 stage | 1 | | 1 | 12 stage | 7 | | 1 | 13 stage | 23 | | 1 | 14 stage | 1 | | 1 | 15 stage | 11 | | 1 | 16 stage | 2 | | 1 | 17 stage | 12 | | 4 | 18 stage | 56 | | 5 | 19 stage | 12 | | 5 | 20 stage | 9 | | 5 | 21 stage | 3 | | 5 |
Ion Izagirre - Movistar Team
On stage 20 I used my +2 in daily form and went into early breakaway. Amazing victory in Morzine. Also top 15 in GC!
GC: 14th +15'38"
1 stage | 22 | | 22 | 2 stage | 3 | | 19 | 3 stage | 4 | | 18 | 4 stage | 8 | | 17 | 5 stage | 21 | | 15 | 6 stage | 7 | | 15 | 7 stage | 27 | | 22 | 8 stage | 16 | | 14 | 9 stage | 47 | | 20 | 10 stage | 14 | | 20 | 11 stage | 70 | | 23 | 12 stage | 17 | | 20 | 13 stage | 66 | | 19 | 14 stage | 11 | | 19 | 15 stage | 28 | | 21 | 16 stage | 29 | | 20 | 17 stage | 34 | | 21 | 18 stage | 87 | | 22 | 19 stage | 24 | | 23 | 20 stage | 1 | | 14 | 21 stage | 27 | | 14 |
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PeterRyder |
Posted on 26-07-2016 22:54
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I don't think it's fair that you cut yourself in the flat stages, but I also think it may be abusive to win 6 stages with Samu p.e.
So it's your call
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Posted on 27-07-2016 15:03
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PeterRyder wrote:
I would say you should up the difficulty becuase 8 stages is WAY too much unrealistic... but it can influentiate the fantasy GC.
his dificulty is proffesional(medium) but it's more an easy difficulty
what he say it's hard it isn't
you can't win with kwiatkowski on massive sprint against sprinters on a hard difficulty just on easy
i attack with eddy merckx on champion difficulty and i barely get a top 10 a massive sprint and he is much better then kwiatkowski at stats or on every stat compared |
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Posted on 27-07-2016 16:47
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I know that there is much more difference between professional-hard than between easy-professional. That's why I never played on hard (even on last year game), because not only it wouldn't be easy itself to finish inside top 10 on any stage, but probably it would made me finish with every rider some places lower than I expected. And make me frustrated a lot. I hate that . Also I didn't played on easy either (okay, once with Cancellara (2015) I rode a prologue just to see difference, 35 seconds better than 2nd place on prologue just prove me to never ever play on easy). That's why I'm playing on professional.
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i attack with eddy merckx on champion difficulty and i barely get a top 10 a massive sprint and he is much better then kwiatkowski at stats or on every stat compared
First of all, you are playing on champion. Like the game is saying "You can win Tour only using long-term strategies" on this difficulty. Secondly, I don't know how you made your last 1,6km but I know how I made mine: top place in a peleton > start sprint 1,6km from finish > using full red gel while pressing sprint button > blocking sprinters that are trying to be faster than you > profit. Also AI isn't the best in this game either. Sometimes they are giving the breakaway 25 minutes, on the finish it's only 12. Why? Because I made all my riders to relay on 95%, that's why.
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I don't think it's fair that you cut yourself in the flat stages, but I also think it may be abusive to win 6 stages with Samu p.e.
So it's your call
I don't know if you have the game or not, but look on stats of riders that have a lot victories. Well, from those 25 were only 4. Greipel, but he is a sprinter so winning flat stages using my strategy isn't a problem. I must check if it would be a problem on champion difficulty, just check. Barguil, but those 5 stages were hilly/mountain ones. Kwiatkowski which has stats that make him fight on any terrain. He have mostly more than 75 in almost everywhere. And Sanchez, but he have 76(?) in sprint so don't tell me you wouldn't try to gain some seconds on GC. With other riders there are mostly only some top 10 on those flat stages! Usually between 5th-10th place. It isn't giving me bonus seconds but definitely looks better than all 21 stages with 50th place. |
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Posted on 27-07-2016 17:16
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on champion difficulty most of the time they let breakaways at 5-12 min but they catch 80% of breakaways.rarely happens to let over 15 min and they won't catch them finishing like 2 min ahead and i don't need to relay
if i have a rider who can win the race,well i put the weakest rider(s) at relay 70 to not let the breakaways to be big in riders or over 15 min.keep in mind recovery at champion difficulty is poor.just 1 stage being in a long breakaway cost you a lot |
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PeterRyder |
Posted on 27-07-2016 23:03
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dominox wrote:
PeterRyder wrote:
I don't think it's fair that you cut yourself in the flat stages, but I also think it may be abusive to win 6 stages with Samu p.e.
So it's your call
I don't know if you have the game or not, but look on stats of riders that have a lot victories. Well, from those 25 were only 4. Greipel, but he is a sprinter so winning flat stages using my strategy isn't a problem. I must check if it would be a problem on champion difficulty, just check. Barguil, but those 5 stages were hilly/mountain ones. Kwiatkowski which has stats that make him fight on any terrain. He have mostly more than 75 in almost everywhere. And Sanchez, but he have 76(?) in sprint so don't tell me you wouldn't try to gain some seconds on GC. With other riders there are mostly only some top 10 on those flat stages! Usually between 5th-10th place. It isn't giving me bonus seconds but definitely looks better than all 21 stages with 50th place.
I have the game but I never played the actuaol TdF, so I can't tell, and that's why I said tou you decise as you know better than me.
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dominox wrote:
I know that there is much more difference between professional-hard than between easy-professional. That's why I never played on hard (even on last year game), because not only it wouldn't be easy itself to finish inside top 10 on any stage, but probably it would made me finish with every rider some places lower than I expected. And make me frustrated a lot. I hate that . Also I didn't played on easy either (okay, once with Cancellara (2015) I rode a prologue just to see difference, 35 seconds better than 2nd place on prologue just prove me to never ever play on easy). That's why I'm playing on professional.
superider2010 wrote:
i attack with eddy merckx on champion difficulty and i barely get a top 10 a massive sprint and he is much better then kwiatkowski at stats or on every stat compared
First of all, you are playing on champion. Like the game is saying "You can win Tour only using long-term strategies" on this difficulty. Secondly, I don't know how you made your last 1,6km but I know how I made mine: top place in a peleton > start sprint 1,6km from finish > using full red gel while pressing sprint button > blocking sprinters that are trying to be faster than you > profit. Also AI isn't the best in this game either. Sometimes they are giving the breakaway 25 minutes, on the finish it's only 12. Why? Because I made all my riders to relay on 95%, that's why.
PeterRyder wrote:
I don't think it's fair that you cut yourself in the flat stages, but I also think it may be abusive to win 6 stages with Samu p.e.
So it's your call
I don't know if you have the game or not, but look on stats of riders that have a lot victories. Well, from those 25 were only 4. Greipel, but he is a sprinter so winning flat stages using my strategy isn't a problem. I must check if it would be a problem on champion difficulty, just check. Barguil, but those 5 stages were hilly/mountain ones. Kwiatkowski which has stats that make him fight on any terrain. He have mostly more than 75 in almost everywhere. And Sanchez, but he have 76(?) in sprint so don't tell me you wouldn't try to gain some seconds on GC. With other riders there are mostly only some top 10 on those flat stages! Usually between 5th-10th place. It isn't giving me bonus seconds but definitely looks better than all 21 stages with 50th place. Lol Samu 76 sprint? Lolollolololololol. Ridiculous stats by Cyanide once again. I am not surprised. Still ridiculous flat stages with Samu. Congrats on great races and keep the project going! |
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Posted on 29-07-2016 19:44
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PeterRyder; Then we will see how it will go later.
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Lol Samu 76 sprint? Lolollolololololol. Ridiculous stats by Cyanide once again. I am not surprised. Still ridiculous flat stages with Samu. Congrats on great races and keep the project going!
Thanks, I will . And yeah, some stats are seriously ridiculous. But at least Quintana have same MO stat as Froome (84).
Yuri Trofimov - Tinkoff
GC: 31st +54'56"
1 stage | 4 | | 4 | 2 stage | 3 | | 4 | 3 stage | 25 | | 4 | 4 stage | 5 | | 5 | 5 stage | 22 | | 22 | 6 stage | 6 | | 22 | 7 stage | 25 | | 24 | 8 stage | 23 | | 23 | 9 stage | 30 | | 26 | 10 stage | 17 | | 26 | 11 stage | 84 | | 26 | 12 stage | 42 | | 29 | 13 stage | 133 | | 29 | 14 stage | 85 | | 26 | 15 stage | 23 | | 26 | 16 stage | 31 | | 26 | 17 stage | 54 | | 26 | 18 stage | 85 | | 26 | 19 stage | 38 | | 32 | 20 stage | 53 | | 31 | 21 stage | 6 | | 31 |
Laurens Ten Dam - Team Giant - Alpecin
New Fantasy leader! That was seriously really fast Tour.
GC: 12th +14'47"
1 stage | 11 | | 11 | 2 stage | 3 | | 3 | 3 stage | 14 | | 3 | 4 stage | 6 | | 3 | 5 stage | 7 | | 6 | 6 stage | 96 | | 6 | 7 stage | 27 | | 11 | 8 stage | 3 | | 10 | 9 stage | 13 | | 11 | 10 stage | 8 | | 11 | 11 stage | 63 | | 14 | 12 stage | 15 | | 14 | 13 stage | 157 | | 15 | 14 stage | 16 | | 15 | 15 stage | 14 | | 14 | 16 stage | 6 | | 14 | 17 stage | 20 | | 15 | 18 stage | 75 | | 15 | 19 stage | 10 | | 15 | 20 stage | 7 | | 12 | 21 stage | 14 | | 12 |
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Posted on 29-07-2016 21:16
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What? Ten Dam better than Porte? |
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PeterRyder |
Posted on 31-07-2016 16:03
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12th in general standings. 1st in Fantasy GC
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