The Schleck Fan wrote:
No changes in GC top 10.I thought only Froome and Valverde were in the front group.Then I saw Quintana and Mollema in the replay.Still no idea how the others were in that group.
Yates, Porte, Bardet, TVG were all 100% in that front group
Looked to PCS and saw that Meintjes,Rodriguez,Aru,Martin and Kreuziger were there as well.
Riis123 wrote:
I would applaud him staying in cycling, but I would like Sagan to have a team 100% devoted to him Cipollini style.
If that happens Sagan would win 6 or 7 stages in a Tour. In a flat sprint, if he is well-placed, he can be as powerful as Kittel, Cavendish, Greipel... In today's kind of stage, a guy to control the bunch as Barguil did it today. Stages like Cherbourg, well he had Kreuziger controlling the bunch
Exactly, I would like to see just how dominant he would be just a team actually around him.
How many sprint trains have worked out this year TdF..None!
But if he had the "lead-out men" IMO he would be almost unbeatable
Riis123 wrote:
I would applaud him staying in cycling, but I would like Sagan to have a team 100% devoted to him Cipollini style.
If that happens Sagan would win 6 or 7 stages in a Tour. In a flat sprint, if he is well-placed, he can be as powerful as Kittel, Cavendish, Greipel... In today's kind of stage, a guy to control the bunch as Barguil did it today. Stages like Cherbourg, well he had Kreuziger controlling the bunch
Exactly, I would like to see just how dominant he would be just a team actually around him.
How many sprint trains have worked out this year TdF..None!
But if he had the "lead-out men" IMO he would be almost unbeatable
New fashion seems to be one guy who is dropping main sprinter in good position about 1k-600m mark.
Riis123 wrote:
It can not be stated too many times how much better Sagan is of a bike rider than pan flat specialists such as Kittel and Cav
Will go down as an all time great. Great sprint, once again.
well uphill sprints Piti, Sagan, Matthews, Dagenkolb, Alaphilippe..
flat sprints Kittel, Cav, Greipel, etc.
Just speciality.
How do decide who is better?
Sagan is a bit more than just an uphill sprinter
You are correct. No point to argue with that. As at Contador prime years I was considering Cancellara as most complete cyclist on the world. He was good everywhere.
You just dont like sprint stages, sprinters..
I very much like sprinters if you make them work for what they got, fx. today or the stage to Revel.
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Btw this was 100th stage at Tour for Sagan...he podiumed 33 times, so exactly every third stage on the podium.
He's a freak!
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Yup, btw just read another stat, from those 100 stages, he was 51 times in top10, excluding TTTs. I guess rest are mountain stages, TTs and falls.
Stage 19 2014 (held up by a crash), Stage 1 2013 (held up by crash), Lyon 2013 (huge break ahead), Stage 5 2012 (crash) were the only non mountain, heavy hills or tt's he didn't top 10.
Edited by Spilak23 on 19-07-2016 13:36
