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| Paul23 |
Posted on 12-06-2016 21:35
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Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
Didn't you watch last year? Only a crash could stop Tony.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 12-06-2016 21:48
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Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
You said that Contador had to be prepared not to crash, I'm not sure how this comes into it.
but while it has, Anquetil has been beaten due to bad tactics (Bahamontes won) as well as poor form (Gaul won) Indurain raced badly and lossed in 1996, Hinaultsean got tenditis in the year Zoetmelk won (1980 iirc), and Merckx has been beaten due to fans not liking him (1975) and Armstrong lost in 2009, so yeah, more than a crash can stop any of them.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 12-06-2016 21:54
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trekbmc wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
You said that Contador had to be prepared not to crash, I'm not sure how this comes into it.
but while it has, Anquetil has been beaten due to bad tactics (Bahamontes won) as well as poor form (Gaul won) Indurain raced badly and lossed in 1996, Hinaultsean got tenditis in the year Zoetmelk won (1980 iirc), and Merckx has been beaten due to fans not liking him (1975) and Armstrong lost in 2009, so yeah, more than a crash can stop any of them. Wasn't Anquetil worse than Anglade and Bahamontes though?
Also lol to Arberg.He should know how Anquetil lost 1959 and 1961 Giros.He should read those two Giros as well. |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 12-06-2016 22:08
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LOL In their heyday, I believe in had a brain to thinking a bit myself, but I overestimated you! |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 12-06-2016 22:10
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Arberg27 wrote:
LOL In their heyday, I believe in had a brain to thinking a bit myself, but I overestimated you!
I'm trying to be polite, but what the fuck are you talking about?
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| Shonak |
Posted on 12-06-2016 22:13
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Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
Look, Coppi is sad now. 
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 12-06-2016 22:13
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Paul23 wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
LOL In their heyday, I believe in had a brain to thinking a bit myself, but I overestimated you!
I'm trying to be polite, but what the fuck are you talking about?
why the fuck are you bringing up results from before they became world beaters, I thought you were smarter than that but I guess I was wrong.
translated by SSJ2Luigi co, results may not be accurate
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 12-06-2016 22:18
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Arberg27 wrote:
LOL In their heyday, I believe in had a brain to thinking a bit myself, but I overestimated you! If that is to me then just lol.Anquetil came to 1959 Giro as 1957 TDF winner.And came 2nd to Gaul.Then he finished the Tour 3rd.And in 1961 he dominated the Tour after losing the Giro(which he was the defending champion) to Pambianco. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 12-06-2016 22:22
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Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
Mentioning Froome (and Armstrong) in one breath along with giants like Hinault and Merckx. Hilarious 
Thanks for brightening up this place every time again, arberg. You have the art of trolling down to perfection  |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 12-06-2016 22:23
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Paul23 wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
LOL In their heyday, I believe in had a brain to thinking a bit myself, but I overestimated you!
I'm trying to be polite, but what the fuck are you talking about?
Right now I talk with my brother about EM in football. Why do you want to know that? |
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 12-06-2016 23:06
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How instead of babbling about race that's almost three weeks from now we could applaude to Steve Cummings for winning 3rd stage of a pro tour race this year. Now seriously, I don't mean it with sarcasm at all. Dude could probably be a constant top 15-20 rider in GCs of those races, but instead understands that's it's more valuable to save energy on other stages for glory moments like this. I take my hat off. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 12-06-2016 23:32
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I_Mayo wrote:
How instead of babbling about race that's almost three weeks from now we could applaude to Steve Cummings for winning 3rd stage of a pro tour race this year. Now seriously, I don't mean it with sarcasm at all. Dude could probably be a constant top 15-20 rider in GCs of those races, but instead understands that's it's more valuable to save energy on other stages for glory moments like this. I take my hat off.
Yes, Cummings is a nice rider, I think most would recognise that. But this is a preview to a bigger show, its about the Maillot Jaune, the biggest prize in cycling, so obviously that will steel most of the focus. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 12-06-2016 23:34
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Ian Butler wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
Mentioning Froome (and Armstrong) in one breath along with giants like Hinault and Merckx. Hilarious
Thanks for brightening up this place every time again, arberg. You have the art of trolling down to perfection
Armstrong was the biggest Tour rider ever. 7 in a row in the hardest race to win on earth. I think he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath with Hinault and Merckx.  |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 13-06-2016 05:45
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Riis123 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
Mentioning Froome (and Armstrong) in one breath along with giants like Hinault and Merckx. Hilarious
Thanks for brightening up this place every time again, arberg. You have the art of trolling down to perfection
Armstrong was the biggest Tour rider ever. 7 in a row in the hardest race to win on earth. I think he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath with Hinault and Merckx.
True
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 13-06-2016 11:57
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Riis123 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
Mentioning Froome (and Armstrong) in one breath along with giants like Hinault and Merckx. Hilarious
Thanks for brightening up this place every time again, arberg. You have the art of trolling down to perfection
Armstrong was the biggest Tour rider ever. 7 in a row in the hardest race to win on earth. I think he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath with Hinault and Merckx.
Not even close.
Armstrong was a TDF monster. End of the line.
Merckx, Hinault... were so much more. On so many different terrain etc. Classics, WC, NC, other GTs, monuments, other stage races... |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 13-06-2016 12:41
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The Schleck Fan wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
LOL In their heyday, I believe in had a brain to thinking a bit myself, but I overestimated you! If that is to me then just lol.Anquetil came to 1959 Giro as 1957 TDF winner.And came 2nd to Gaul.Then he finished the Tour 3rd.And in 1961 he dominated the Tour after losing the Giro(which he was the defending champion) to Pambianco. Also just remembered that Indurain finished 1994 Giro(where he was the double defending champion) 3rd behind Berzin and Pantani.And guess what,he dominated the Tour that year as he won his 4th consecutive TDF. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 13-06-2016 12:50
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Ian Butler wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
Mentioning Froome (and Armstrong) in one breath along with giants like Hinault and Merckx. Hilarious
Thanks for brightening up this place every time again, arberg. You have the art of trolling down to perfection
Armstrong was the biggest Tour rider ever. 7 in a row in the hardest race to win on earth. I think he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath with Hinault and Merckx.
Not even close.
Armstrong was a TDF monster. End of the line.
Merckx, Hinault... were so much more. On so many different terrain etc. Classics, WC, NC, other GTs, monuments, other stage races...
Its subjective.
I don't suggest he is as good as them, certainly not Eddy, but he belongs in the 'same breath' IMO. |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 13-06-2016 12:54
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Riis123 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
You never know who will win before the race is finished. Giro this year is a good example of it. That said, there is no doubt that only crash can stop Froome/Armstrong/Indurain/Hinault/Merckx/Anquetil.
Mentioning Froome (and Armstrong) in one breath along with giants like Hinault and Merckx. Hilarious
Thanks for brightening up this place every time again, arberg. You have the art of trolling down to perfection
Armstrong was the biggest Tour rider ever. 7 in a row in the hardest race to win on earth. I think he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath with Hinault and Merckx.
Not even close.
Armstrong was a TDF monster. End of the line.
Merckx, Hinault... were so much more. On so many different terrain etc. Classics, WC, NC, other GTs, monuments, other stage races...
Its subjective.
I don't suggest he is as good as them, certainly not Eddy, but he belongs in the 'same breath' IMO. You say Contador won 7 GTs yet you say Armstrong won 7 TDFs |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 13-06-2016 12:58
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Its slightly different cases since they actually had a winner for the 2 GT's where Contador was stripped, but the winner from 1999-2005 is blank and therefore I consider Armstrong to have won them since I don't subscribe to the 'no winner' thing. Its a grey area and I suppose very subjective again. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-06-2016 13:04
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It's not subjective, it's hypocrisy
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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