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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 24-05-2016 10:25
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Strydz wrote:
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Isn't it pretty clear that Sagan will sign for Astana considering his bike deal and fact that Quickstep is too crowded in classics department already?
Etixx really aren't stacked in the classics department, they have good riders but no standout leader which showed them up this year. Specialized want to keep Sagan as a brand ambassador seeing he is a global name so it's obvious he goes to a Specialized team so I agree with you that Astana look the most obvious choice at this stage.
Patrick Lefévère's problem is that if he wants to sign Sagan he needs to let someone go - specificly Tom Boonen. Boonen is the heart and soul of the team (much like Totti is for AS Roma or John Terry for Chelsea) and letting him go will seem strange. Lefévère also has to be cautious about Kittel and his aspirations for Maillot Vert.
Astana is the second team using Specialized bikes and Specialized want their biggest cash cow at the moment in of the teams they sponsor.
However should Sagan chooses to go elsewhere what options he has. A slim number of teams can afford his salary, but in some teams Sagan would need to battle internal shennanigans.
Trek is rumoured to snatch Sagan just to replace their beloved Cancellara. However they desperately need GC riders - Mollema and Hesjedal are cleary transfer flops for them and they made a huge mistake by letting Bob Jungels go. Segafredo are wanting more Italians.
Many want Sagan at Sky, but here he will be just Froome supporter and nothing else. Cavendish's short stint with Sky cost him a assured win in the Sprinters standings in 2012, but he rarely got any support at all with the Brasilford machine concentrated more towards Bradley Wiggins. What difference will be with new riders in the role - Sagan and Froome?
BMC? Greg van Avermaet is their leading man in the classics and I don't think that will change for the forseable future
From the current teams apart from the mentioned IMO Movistar can afford Sagan, but is there really any place for him in Eusebio Unzué's team and the fact that Unzue's golden boy Valverde is still around?
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-05-2016 10:35
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I think it's clear it's either going to be Etixx or Astana.
Trek would be in running, but Sagan gets 1m from Specialized, so Trek has literally 0% of signing Sagan.
Between Etixx and Astana it's a close call, but would be surprised if it's not Astana. Sagan and Vino are basically same spirit, and Sagan I think will adopt better in more Eastern team.
With Nibali gone I think Sagan is 99.99% coming there (I am pretty sure the contract is already signed). With Grivko, De Vreese, Boom there is a great setup for Sagan in classics. Sign him leadout man and it should be perfect combination.
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Posted on 24-05-2016 10:42
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Alakagom wrote:
With Grivko, De Vreese, Boom there is a great setup for Sagan in classics.
I think Boom is gone (probably replacement for Cancellara at Trek). But snatch Bodnar, Gatto and you have a pretty decent classics support. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 24-05-2016 10:52
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I_Mayo wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
With Grivko, De Vreese, Boom there is a great setup for Sagan in classics.
I think Boom is gone (probably replacement for Cancellara at Trek). But snatch Bodnar, Gatto and you have a pretty decent classics support.
I would be surprised if Boom is still at Astana next year, pretty sure I've read on a few sites now that he's on his way out and wants to do more cross. I don't know if Astana will be going on a spending spree to bring in support for Sagan as they will be reducing there budget next season so it who they bring in needs to be balanced by who leaves, Nibali, Boom, Rosa all look on the way out, you would think a couple more follow Nibali to wherever he ends up
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Posted on 24-05-2016 10:56
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Sagan seems to be linked with every Specialized riding team so I will start another rumour.
Sagan -> Boels Dolmans
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| aidanvn13 |
Posted on 24-05-2016 11:05
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Degenkolb to Trek?
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| Strydz |
Posted on 24-05-2016 11:26
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Sagan seems to be linked with every Specialized riding team so I will start another rumour.
Sagan -> Boels Dolmans
He does like the ladies 
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Posted on 24-05-2016 11:28
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Strydz wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
With Grivko, De Vreese, Boom there is a great setup for Sagan in classics.
I think Boom is gone (probably replacement for Cancellara at Trek). But snatch Bodnar, Gatto and you have a pretty decent classics support.
I would be surprised if Boom is still at Astana next year, pretty sure I've read on a few sites now that he's on his way out and wants to do more cross. I don't know if Astana will be going on a spending spree to bring in support for Sagan as they will be reducing there budget next season so it who they bring in needs to be balanced by who leaves, Nibali, Boom, Rosa all look on the way out, you would think a couple more follow Nibali to wherever he ends up
I don't think bringing Bodnar and Gatto could be called "spending spree", considering that money spent on Sagan probably equals money gained from Nibali and Boom leaving. Also Agnoli and Vanotti would definitely leave with Nibali if that's the case. |
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Posted on 24-05-2016 11:31
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The Trek Dangenkolb rumour has been around for a while now, he would be a good replacement for Cancellara that's for sure but I wonder if it's Giant hesitating or Dagenkolb's agent looking for a better deal by going to the press, it's a tried and true method of getting a better contract for your rider
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| Strydz |
Posted on 24-05-2016 11:34
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I_Mayo wrote:
Strydz wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
With Grivko, De Vreese, Boom there is a great setup for Sagan in classics.
I think Boom is gone (probably replacement for Cancellara at Trek). But snatch Bodnar, Gatto and you have a pretty decent classics support.
I would be surprised if Boom is still at Astana next year, pretty sure I've read on a few sites now that he's on his way out and wants to do more cross. I don't know if Astana will be going on a spending spree to bring in support for Sagan as they will be reducing there budget next season so it who they bring in needs to be balanced by who leaves, Nibali, Boom, Rosa all look on the way out, you would think a couple more follow Nibali to wherever he ends up
I don't think bringing Bodnar and Gatto could be called "spending spree", considering that money spent on Sagan probably equals money gained from Nibali and Boom leaving. Also Agnoli and Vanotti would definitely leave with Nibali if that's the case.
Of course you are right that they wouldn't cost much so yeah he could have them and has proven he doesn't need much of team to win a race, really interesting transfer period that's for sure
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Posted on 24-05-2016 11:35
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ivaneurope wrote:
Strydz wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Isn't it pretty clear that Sagan will sign for Astana considering his bike deal and fact that Quickstep is too crowded in classics department already?
Etixx really aren't stacked in the classics department, they have good riders but no standout leader which showed them up this year. Specialized want to keep Sagan as a brand ambassador seeing he is a global name so it's obvious he goes to a Specialized team so I agree with you that Astana look the most obvious choice at this stage.
Patrick Lefévère's problem is that he talks a heap of rubbish when it comes to who he's going to sign
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Posted on 24-05-2016 12:24
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Strydz wrote:
The Trek Dangenkolb rumour has been around for a while now, he would be a good replacement for Cancellara that's for sure but I wonder if it's Giant hesitating or Dagenkolb's agent looking for a better deal by going to the press, it's a tried and true method of getting a better contract for your rider
Trek realised that Sagan won't join them so they choosed the cheaper Degenkolb
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Posted on 24-05-2016 13:42
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ivaneurope wrote:
Strydz wrote:
The Trek Dangenkolb rumour has been around for a while now, he would be a good replacement for Cancellara that's for sure but I wonder if it's Giant hesitating or Dagenkolb's agent looking for a better deal by going to the press, it's a tried and true method of getting a better contract for your rider
Trek realised that Sagan won't join them so they choosed the cheaper Degenkolb
Sagan moving around with Spezialised money..problem for Trek bicycle |
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Posted on 24-05-2016 18:41
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Shonak wrote:
At Astana $agan will return to riding in butt ugly national kits, at least at Tinkoff his NC abd WC kit were pretty nice.
idk, their hungarian jersey looks okay, pretty standard stuff 
the premier german squad without german riders of fame, I mean Arndy, Fröhlinger, Geschke and Walscheid aren't nobodies but not of name like Kittel and Degenkolb. Lefevre said last year that he wanted to be seen responable for the resurge of german cycling (at least that how I read what he said) by making a team with Martin, Kittel and Degenkolb, is Ettix maybe in the running too? or is it  Lefevre transfer talk?
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 02-06-2016 17:14
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Philippe Gilbert has confirmed he won't be staying at BMC next year.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 03-06-2016 07:43
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Spilak23 wrote:
Philippe Gilbert has confirmed he won't be staying at BMC next year.
It's hard to see him going anywhere other than Lotto Soudal
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Posted on 03-06-2016 07:48
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Strydz wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Philippe Gilbert has confirmed he won't be staying at BMC next year.
It's hard to see him going anywhere other than Lotto Soudal Probably he'll go to FDJ, if Madiot can pay him. Astana is an option too
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 03-06-2016 08:09
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Strydz wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Philippe Gilbert has confirmed he won't be staying at BMC next year.
It's hard to see him going anywhere other than Lotto Soudal
Domestiquing for king Benoot, good times are about to come.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 03-06-2016 09:09
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Maybe Trek-Segafredo. They are sorta a retirement home anyway.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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Posted on 03-06-2016 09:18
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Giant as well I guess. If Degenkolb leaves another big name could be handy. |
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