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Giro d'Italia 2016 - Week 3 (24th - 29th May)
MiguelTheBest
Riis123 wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ugh, thats 3 minutes in the bottom and Nibali has Scarponi...
Kruiswijk is leading. Chaves is the favourite for the jersey now me thinks.


Slow down, Nostradamus.


What does that even mean?


You are a little unlearned...
 
MrUfo87
I_Mayo wrote:
MrUfo87 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Strydz wrote:
MrUfo87 wrote:

Damn, very frustrated for Kruijswijk. Nobody else deserves this victory, but it looks like he has lost it now. Sad


Why not?


Because Kruijswijk is Dutch, the others not. Duh.

Wink


Ah I see!
Well my bad then! :lol:


It's not only because of chauvinism. I don't know if you've watched the last few weeks but he's simply the strongest here. He has beaten everyone in all stages until today. And that while he wasn't even one of the outsiders at the beginning of the Giro. Nobody saw him as a serious podium contender. You can't deny Steven beat all odds so far. A podium would be very nice as well, but damn, he's so close now. Sad

Well, good job Steven. You surprised everyone and let's see what tomorrow will bring. Maybe he'll take his revanche next year. Now hoping that Chaves will stay in front of Nibali, because Chaves is a Dutchman. Oh wait.


Oh, poor Steven. From rags to riches. Nobody believed in him (expect for everyone who somewhat follows cycling). Yes, let's hope he takes revenge on all them bad latinos, they don't speak proper english and cry in real life instead of internet.


Your rhetoric is quite good but your argumentation is bad. Please read what I say before talking nonsense.
- I didn't say nobody believed in him, I said nobody expected him. If anyone would say that he'd be the leader for today's stage with 4/5 minutes on Nibali and Valverde nobody would believe it.
- I never said latinos are bad and I even prefer Chaves above Nibali. And are there even other latinos who have a chance on winning the GC? I don't even blame anyone of them for the crash of Kruijswijk, he did it totally himself.
- As if all Dutch people can talk proper English?
- It's quite funny that someone who sits behind his computer screen blames someone else for not crying in real life. That must be damn awesome superpowers. And is this crying on internet? It's just sharing an opinion, just like everybody else here does.

So please re-read my post and come back with a proper answer without insulting anyone. We don't want any fights on this forum. Thanks in advance! Smile
 
Selwink
Riis123 wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ugh, thats 3 minutes in the bottom and Nibali has Scarponi...
Kruiswijk is leading. Chaves is the favourite for the jersey now me thinks.


Slow down, Nostradamus.


What does that even mean?


Nostradamus was someone medieval who predicted the future -which is pretty much all I know-. Wikipedia has more info on him.

On today's stage: been a while since I turned off the tv out of frustration. Very disappointing to see this, but in the end it's Kruijswijk himself who's to blame (gotta stay realistic here). Let's hope he somehow finds his way back tomorrow (a bit less realistic I'm afraid). Always sad to see someone who's stronger losing the race in such a way, but it's a part of cycling (and in the end it's just cycling).
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I_Mayo
Riis123 wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ugh, thats 3 minutes in the bottom and Nibali has Scarponi...
Kruiswijk is leading. Chaves is the favourite for the jersey now me thinks.


Slow down, Nostradamus.


What does that even mean?


https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nostradamus
 
Shonak
Hopefully Chaves takes it. An amazing display of awareness and guts, although I'd like to see Kruijs getting back in Kruijs Kontrol mode and going real hard tomorrow. It's not likely to happen ofc.

Honestly I don't care if Nibali wins. If it happens: good for him but nothing new. He did a great ride today but he has won Grand Tours before, it is to expected of him that he must ride well at some point and drop those guys. I'd much prefer to see Chaves or Kruijs at the top as first timers, it is way more fitting for this Giro.
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alexkr00
Selwink wrote:
Let's hope he somehow finds his way back tomorrow (a bit less realistic I'm afraid).


I doubt he'll be able to do anything tomorrow. By the way he looked at the finish, he'll be lucky to be able to stay on the podium Sad
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Riis123
Rumblings about X-rays and even not even starting, this doesn't bode well - would not surprise me if he gets dropped on Vars. Its really, really too bad.
 
I_Mayo
MrUfo87 wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
MrUfo87 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Strydz wrote:
MrUfo87 wrote:

Damn, very frustrated for Kruijswijk. Nobody else deserves this victory, but it looks like he has lost it now. Sad


Why not?


Because Kruijswijk is Dutch, the others not. Duh.

Wink


Ah I see!
Well my bad then! :lol:


It's not only because of chauvinism. I don't know if you've watched the last few weeks but he's simply the strongest here. He has beaten everyone in all stages until today. And that while he wasn't even one of the outsiders at the beginning of the Giro. Nobody saw him as a serious podium contender. You can't deny Steven beat all odds so far. A podium would be very nice as well, but damn, he's so close now. Sad

Well, good job Steven. You surprised everyone and let's see what tomorrow will bring. Maybe he'll take his revanche next year. Now hoping that Chaves will stay in front of Nibali, because Chaves is a Dutchman. Oh wait.


Oh, poor Steven. From rags to riches. Nobody believed in him (expect for everyone who somewhat follows cycling). Yes, let's hope he takes revenge on all them bad latinos, they don't speak proper english and cry in real life instead of internet.


Your rhetoric is quite good but your argumentation is bad. Please read what I say before talking nonsense.
- I didn't say nobody believed in him, I said nobody expected him. If anyone would say that he'd be the leader for today's stage with 4/5 minutes on Nibali and Valverde nobody would believe it.
- I never said latinos are bad and I even prefer Chaves above Nibali. And are there even other latinos who have a chance on winning the GC? I don't even blame anyone of them for the crash of Kruijswijk, he did it totally himself.
- As if all Dutch people can talk proper English?
- It's quite funny that someone who sits behind his computer screen blames someone else for not crying in real life. That must be damn awesome superpowers. And is this crying on internet? It's just sharing an opinion, just like everybody else here does.

So please re-read my post and come back with a proper answer without insulting anyone. We don't want any fights on this forum. Thanks in advance! Smile


1. believed = expected has pretty much the same intention in this context
2. Valverde
3. Well... it's a joke based on stereotype about language skills
4. Again a joke based on stereotype that southern people are more emotional thus far cry more

And of course that post is a more so meant as a joke, so don't take it that seriously. Wink
 
Riis123
I asked after stage 16: How much more should this Giro deliver to eclipse '15? Its very close right now, a hard ridden stage tomorrow and it has it.
 
Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Rumblings about X-rays and even not even starting, this doesn't bode well - would not surprise me if he gets dropped on Vars. Its really, really too bad.


If something is broken or if he has concussion he simply shouldn't start tomorrow, no shame in pulling out if you really are injured
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Riis123
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Rumblings about X-rays and even not even starting, this doesn't bode well - would not surprise me if he gets dropped on Vars. Its really, really too bad.


If something is broken or if he has concussion he simply shouldn't start tomorrow, no shame in pulling out if you really are injured


Did I say anything else? Pfft
Hopefully he will fight tho. Always sad to see such a big rider abandon. Fingers crossed.
 
Smowz
Just watched this, another amazing stage... What a great GT this is, let's face it we are getting a really superb cycling season here. The cobbles were fantastic (let's ignore Ardennes they are just crappy) and this has been awesome.

Nibali really won me over today and last week what a fighter. Urinal pissed in my face a bit too well done,

Also Jungels whaddarider ... Good god lux could do with something after Schleck piss their talent away.

On big six hour road trip tomorrow sux balls could be one of the most epic ever. Almost feel sorry for old man Plaza and Chavy smiling bastard. Astana are going to destroy em.
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SSJ2Luigi
Riis123 wrote:
I asked after stage 16: How much more should this Giro deliver to eclipse '15? Its very close right now, a hard ridden stage tomorrow and it has it.

hahahahaha, it will be a TdF 2014 stage

I really shouldn't talk about the Giro anymore, makes me look bitter to myself. can't even imagine how it looks to other people Frown
 
Spilak23
Just watched the recording of the stage. Had to record the NOS cause Sporza were showing Ronde Van Belgie and didn't want to miss Agnello.

Han Kok (one of the Dutch commentators) half an hour before the top of Agnello: "We know how good Steven is in Italy, he always shows it here. But later on we go to France. I hope he can keep his level up there."

200 metres into France he crashes. incredible
 
Guido Mukk
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Sad for Kruijswijk but he failed himself. Couldnt cope with the pressure that Nibbles applied and misjudged it.

That was not much pressure..he himself told that it was just stupid mistake. He was on the limit at the top..and was trying to refuel himself fast. Stupid mistake followed after that.
He was not looking as powerful as last week..still he would have hold on pink. Terrible dutch cycling luck clearly involved there.
Tomorrow will be one of the hardest and tough stages. Short..hard..brutal.

My hope is that Chaves can hold on tomorrow. Chaves has 50 acceleration..he just to need climb back slowly every Nibali attack tomorrow.

Nibali has kind of GT phenomen..he just keep crawling back..and still have happy ending.
 
togo95
Guido Mukk wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Sad for Kruijswijk but he failed himself. Couldnt cope with the pressure that Nibbles applied and misjudged it.

That was not much pressure..he himself told that it was just stupid mistake. He was on the limit at the top..and was trying to refuel himself fast. Stupid mistake followed after that.


The fact that he was on the limit was a result of the pressure applied by Chaves and Nibali.
 
dienblad
Crap...... Think I'm gonna get myself drunk. Even though I've a 130km cyclo coming up tomorrow.
Can't blame Nibali and Chaves for not waiting, because they were trying to gain time on Valverder in the first place.
Let's hope that Kruijswijk has no major injuries, so he can defend his 3rd place. And when he keep up with Nib&Chav when they'll enter Italy again, maybe he can gain back the neede minute Cool
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Guido Mukk
togo95 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Sad for Kruijswijk but he failed himself. Couldnt cope with the pressure that Nibbles applied and misjudged it.

That was not much pressure..he himself told that it was just stupid mistake. He was on the limit at the top..and was trying to refuel himself fast. Stupid mistake followed after that.


The fact that he was on the limit was a result of the pressure applied by Chaves and Nibali.


Theory was that Nibali attacked on descent and forced Kruijswijk take a risk and that caused a crash.
Watching replay..Kruijswijk main problem was not crash and lost time..but total crack at final climb (it was partly caused by crash)
 
Cossack
Kruijswijk rumoured to have a broken foot, which will make him not start tomorrow.
 
SSJ2Luigi
Cossack wrote:
Kruijswijk rumoured to have a broken foot, which will make him not start tomorrow.

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