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Forever the Best
Alakagom wrote:
Michael Schar, holy shit, what a beast. Plus as a domestique he finishes most of his races. Utter beast. Can ride everything.
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Ramunas Navardauskas is another rider who is underrated in my opinion.
 
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emre99 wrote:
Underrated: Greipel's other specialities expect sprints. Smile Remember Eneco Tour maybe. Smile
Yep
Shonak wrote:
Overrated:Moreno
I think Moreno is rather underrated.He has won Fleche Wallonne podiumed Lombardia,he has finished the Vuelta in top 10 several times(5th being once).He has won Burgos,Piemonte,GP Miguel Indurain,as well as stages in La Vuelta,Burgos and Dauphine.
He is a great puncheur with a great kick at the end and can also climb good in the high mountains.I don't think he is overrated.

Agree about other riders though.
Edited by Forever the Best on 12-02-2016 17:02
 
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The Schleck Fan wrote:
Ramunas Navardauskas is another rider who is underrated in my opinion.

Dunno, “everybody“ (ofc not really..) praises him here on Daily, so he actually may be overrated alright. Grin
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Forever the Best
Shonak wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Ramunas Navardauskas is another rider who is underrated in my opinion.

Dunno, “everybody“ (ofc not really..) praises him here on Daily, so he actually may be overrated alright. Grin
The media always underrate him and then he surprises to do a good placing.I don't expect him to be a world beater but a top-3 in MSR is very possible in a very good day.
 
namtheman928
Overrated:Boonen,Kittel,Dumoulin,Tejay,Etixx Quickstep(I think LeFevre is not the only one to blame)
Underrated:Thomas,Vuilermoz,Navardauskas,Zakarin,Roelandts,Dan Martin,Gaviria except sprint qualities
I also think Valverde is not overrated. Vuelta,6 Ardennes victories and 6 World Championship medals don't make him overrated
Edited by namtheman928 on 28-03-2016 21:20
 
Guido Mukk
namtheman928 wrote:
Overrated:Boonen,Kittel,Dumoulin,Tejay,Etixx Quickstep(I think LeFevre is not the only one to blame)
Underrated:Thomas,Vuilermoz,Navardauskas,Zakarin,Roelandts,Dan Martin,Gaviria except sprint qualities
I also think Valverde is not overrated. Vuelta,6 Ardennes victories and 6 World Championship medals don't make him overrated


Overrated Boonen..Smile ..look he's palmares..
Overrated Kittel..Smile top form Kittel is a bit booring to watch as was top form Cav. He's playing with rivals.
Dumoulin..yes. Why everyone think that he shoudl be GT rider/ contender.
TVG...yes ..he never delivers big win. Same with Porte ..great riders but BMC wont win with them.
Ettix ..yes. This what happens when you collecting to many same type great riders into same team. This was not worked out with Madrid Real also.
Valverde is not overrated..are you drunk people. One guy told that yes Vuelta maybe ..but he sucks always at Tour..after that he has won 3rd place 7 months ago. Be real.

Dan Martin has lot more inside..bad timing king.

Gaviria underrated?..dont know everyone talk about him..but I wont see success story..give him time.

Geraint Thomas can do anything ..also I am Stannard fan..power house.

And yes..holland will need a star. Gesink last year was fun..Vanmarcke still does not have it.
 
Riis123
Overrated: Dumoulin, Talansky, Vanmarcke, Voeckler
Underrated: Valverde, Henao, Rosa
 
Miguel98
Severelly underrated rider?

Matteo Trentin. Specially inside his team
 
Riis123
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Shonak wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Ramunas Navardauskas is another rider who is underrated in my opinion.

Dunno, “everybody“ (ofc not really..) praises him here on Daily, so he actually may be overrated alright. Grin
The media always underrate him and then he surprises to do a good placing.I don't expect him to be a world beater but a top-3 in MSR is very possible in a very good day.

The funny thing about this, sometimes, the more underrated you are, the more overrated you become Wink
 
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Miguel98 wrote:
Severelly underrated rider?

Matteo Trentin. Specially inside his team


Not sure about that after watching E3. Wink
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Miguel98 wrote:
Severelly underrated rider?

Matteo Trentin. Specially inside his team


Agreed, he is consistently playing with the big boys. I think he is the one with the second best chances in De Ronde for EQS.
 
emre99
Riis123 wrote:
Overrated: Dumoulin, Talansky, Vanmarcke, Voeckler
Underrated: Valverde, Henao, Rosa


I agree with Talansky, Dumoulin but Vannarcke was overrated and i dont think the same now, he is not overrated/underrated now. Voeckler no need to talk Pfft.
Valverde definetly, Henao is, but Rosa only in real life, he is a beast in-game 2016DB! Pfft
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Underrated retired rider:
Julian Dean


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Guido Mukk wrote:
namtheman928 wrote:
Overrated:Boonen,Kittel,Dumoulin,Tejay,Etixx Quickstep(I think LeFevre is not the only one to blame)
Underrated:Thomas,Vuilermoz,Navardauskas,Zakarin,Roelandts,Dan Martin,Gaviria except sprint qualities
I also think Valverde is not overrated. Vuelta,6 Ardennes victories and 6 World Championship medals don't make him overrated


Overrated Boonen..Smile ..look he's palmares..
Overrated Kittel..Smile top form Kittel is a bit booring to watch as was top form Cav. He's playing with rivals.
Dumoulin..yes. Why everyone think that he shoudl be GT rider/ contender.
TVG...yes ..he never delivers big win. Same with Porte ..great riders but BMC wont win with them.
Ettix ..yes. This what happens when you collecting to many same type great riders into same team. This was not worked out with Madrid Real also.
Valverde is not overrated..are you drunk people. One guy told that yes Vuelta maybe ..but he sucks always at Tour..after that he has won 3rd place 7 months ago. Be real.

Dan Martin has lot more inside..bad timing king.

Gaviria underrated?..dont know everyone talk about him..but I wont see success story..give him time.

Geraint Thomas can do anything ..also I am Stannard fan..power house.

And yes..holland will need a star. Gesink last year was fun..Vanmarcke still does not have it.
Boonen was rumored to be the leader of Etixx Quickstep but his form shows that he can only be a luxury teammate this year as I saw that he couldn't climb Kemmelberg.About Kittel I think sprinter like him should have a better hill because now he can only win tdf stages and maybe the world championship in Doha. Valverde might not be perfect grand tours but he is the king of Ardennes and he also sprints well so we cannot count him as mountain specialist
 
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Overrated: Cavendish, Contador, Tony Martin, Gilbert, Boonen, Nibali, Talansky, Kreuziger, Fuglsang, Moreno, Gerrans, Uran, König, Team Tinkoff, Etixx Quickstep.

Underrated: Landa, Matthews, Dennis, Alaphilippe, Stuyven, Porte`s helper role in TDF.
Edited by Arberg27 on 29-03-2016 06:36
 
Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Overrated: Dumoulin, Talansky, Vanmarcke, Voeckler
Underrated: Valverde, Henao, Rosa


You smoking crack? The guy gets enough plaudits and basically a free pass from fans for his blood being in a "doctors" fridge. He is in noway underrated
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Guido Mukk wrote:
TVG...yes ..he never delivers big win. Same with Porte ..great riders but BMC wont win with them.


Agree about TVG but Porte isn't overrated, he's just not a true GT rider but has had some big wins/podiums and proven to be a top shelf mountain Dom
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Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Overrated: Dumoulin, Talansky, Vanmarcke, Voeckler
Underrated: Valverde, Henao, Rosa


You smoking crack? The guy gets enough plaudits and basically a free pass from fans for his blood being in a "doctors" fridge. He is in noway underrated


Him blood doping 10 years ago has hardly anything to do with him being underrated/overrated. I know your anti-doping stance, but lets not forget that we are talking about an era which had doping for breakfast. The reason I put in in the list is that I consistently see people who dismiss him as one of the truly great of our sport which is a shame
 
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